UK reportedly plans its own satellite navigation system

Correction : It was not satellites, it was one nano-satellite launched in the orbit after four failed attempts.

Last time UK tried, it took 4 attempts to send one 102 KG satellite 500 KM in LEO. So good-luck and see you after 96 launches, if you can reduce the weight of one nav-sat to 102 KG.

Or may be you can ask ISRO to do that for you, they have more experience in setting up a Nav-system and are economical to boot.
At a time when only 3 other nations had successfully launched satellites.

We'll launch them ourselves in a few years.
 
Highly intelligent... :ROFLMAO: So the Iranians should be launching geostationary satellites by now. New Zealand would soon follow after launching the Electron.

And you don't even have a program to develop even a medium lift launcher. Even on paper.

There is something called the learning curve, and you are somewhere near the origin.

As for the LCA, it belongs to the light category. Not the 'overpriced & unserviceable' category as some European fighters.
If you follow rockets, they always started off small. The technology and know-how is around these days, it's not new anymore, but it's only now that the number of satellite launches required justifies the monetary outlay as part of a private business model. The Iranians are short of money.

Your first such launcher was Russian, we will build our own after proving the technology with smaller rockets. JFC, it doesn't take much for you Indians to pretend you're Gods does it? You join the space race after it's essentially been over for decades, copy Russian technology, learn from it and expand it a bit, and anyone would think you'd landed on Titan using a spaceship powered by a Schwarzschild Kugelblitz. Give it a rest, sit back and watch. It'll all be over shortly.

The LCA belongs to a category that rhymes with 'light'.
 
Already doing it with SSNs under construction & SSBNs operational.
So why are you buying foreign subs and jets. The whole ToT thing is a flawed plan. Given the life-cycle timescales on things like subs and fighters, you're always getting 15-20 year-old technology. So whilst you think it's a short-cut to contemporary technology, it's actually only a short-cut to 2 decades ago.
 
Does UK or USA build diesel submarines? Same way, even India makes just nuclear submarines and in diesel category it is getting French assistance to complete indigenisation without having to design by itself. I would not mind this as long as India gets the design and eventually makes it fully in India. For now, nuclear submarine manufacturing is enough and is at par with many other countries


Tejas MK1 is similar to Gripen C. They are decent fighter planes but just too small for having larger payload. Current payload of 4ton is insufficient as about half of it will go for 2 WVR and 2 fuel tanks leaving little for other ammunitions.
We would if we felt they were useful in any way but diesel propulsion doesn't fit with their current usage.

Why do you need French help? Replace the nuclear reactor with a diesel engine. It's not rocket science.

Tejas is similar to Gripen C in the same way that my *censored* is similar to J-Lo's.
 
If you follow rockets, they always started off small.

And it take decades for the technology to mature and operationalize. Case in point- Indians, Chinese, South Koreans & any other country with space launch capability.

You would have known it if you followed rockets.

The technology and know-how is around these days, it's not new anymore

Technology and know how is there in countries which have space launch capability.

You expect someone to share their properetiary designs & technology with you? Good luck !!!

Your first such launcher was Russian, we will build our own after proving the technology with smaller rockets

Dumbass, our first rocket- SLV was an Indian design. :ROFLMAO: And it will remain so no matter how much you cry here.

It was based on our experience in solid propulsion we developed for sounding rockets back in the 60s.

And you'll prove shit. You don't have any space launcher development programs now- no local designs, no foreign designs.

JFC, it doesn't take much for you Indians to pretend you're Gods does it?

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We are well ahead of the boastful turds known as Brits. You are free to cry about it.

copy Russian technology, learn from it and expand it a bit, and anyone would think you'd landed on Titan using a spaceship powered by a Schwarzschild Kugelblitz.

Awwww....does the very thought of Indians having space launch capability when you have none offend you ?

Our launchers will remain ours despite all your whining about Indian space launchers being Russian (all BS as usual).

First orbital launch in 1980. SSO launch in 1994. GTO launch in 2001. Trans-Lunar Injection in 2008. Interplanetary mission in 2013. And for the future, moon landing in 2019 & manned spaceflight in 2022. This is how the record book of a successful space agency look like.

Now whine like a b****

Now you can try telling me which Indian rocket is Russian. Is it the SLV, ASLV, PSLV, GSLV or the GSLV Mk III?

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Better, the dumb Brit should explain how Indian launchers differ from Russian ones even in design philosophy (such as large Solid boosters) when they are "marginal improvement of Russian ones'' ?

Give it a rest, sit back and watch. It'll all be over shortly.

Obviously, it will be over as present soon as legacy designs get retired and newer technologies take over

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That's how the plans of an established space agency with proper funding & it's own technology looks like.

Not hot air coming from some 50 million pound per year space agency.... which hopes of 'overtalking' the former.:ROFLMAO:

''It would we over soon'' as we have got a new 3 million pound launchpad :ROFLMAO:... Lot of hot air blowing from that little island...
 
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We'll launch them ourselves in a few years.
:ROFLMAO::LOL::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::LOL:

Last-time, when you were playing with rockets this is what happened :

Blue Streak (missile) - Wikipedia

The de Havilland Propellers Blue Streak was a British medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM), and later the first stage of the Europa satellite launch vehicle. Blue Streak was cancelled without entering full production. The missile project was cancelled in 1960, with US-led Skybolt the preferred replacement.

Partly to avoid political embarrassment from the cancellation, the UK Government proposed that the rocket be used as the first stage of a civilian satellite launcher called Black Prince. However, the cost was thought to be too great for the UK alone, and international collaboration was sought. This led to the formation of the European Launcher Development Organisation (ELDO), with Blue Streak used as the first stage of a carrier rocket named Europa.

And then ....

Here what happened to Europa :

The programme proceeded to perform multiple test launches, however these frequently resulted in partial failures. In addition, Britain decided to pull out of the ELDO organisation, and thus Europa, to instead focus on the rival British Black Arrow launcher instead.

So, in a nutshell, you tried to build the rocket to drop bombs by yourself, you failed miserably. I mean I just love your test charts of Blue Streak :

Untested, Untested, Untested, Untested, Untested, Failed, Failed, Failed, Failed.

Then you tried to save face by making it a SLV (with a payload of 100 KG :ROFLMAO::LOL::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::LOL:) meanwhile the real space faring nations were having this (Titan II GLV - Wikipedia). Payload to LEO 3000 + KG and man-rated.

And not just that, you found that its too much to build the Orbital Launch Vehicle by yourself, so you called all european nations too. That didn't go well. Europa wasn't doing too well, so you decided to exit that effort. Folks, does it remind you of anything?

And then you tested the same failed Missile turned into failed SLV four more times with a lot of huffing and puffing and clandestine help from US, you were able to put a measly small 100 KG satellite into LEO in 1971 and claim yourself to be pioneer in space. At that point, 2 years back, America has put men on the moon.

Lets face it, Britain and Rocket Science don't go well. After all its rocket science and not backstabbing your friends.
 
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It only takes decades if you're learning from scratch, which we aren't.

Well the irony here is that India expects exactly that all the time with military purchases, but no we already have the know-how. British scientists have been outsourced to foreign rocket programs and well, we just have a top-notch university-level education system.

Only 2 of its 4 flights were successful and it launched a 40kg satellite, and to think you were taking the piss out of Black Arrow launching a 144kg satellite more than a decade earlier. Your move to larger launches was taken from a Russian design.

Yeah, in exactly one field of engineering that we haven't actually tried in so far. In everything else you're behind.

GSLV MkI uses a Russian cryogenic stage. They transferred the technology. Just like NK got ICBM tech from somewhere.

If you are so good at Rocket technology, why oh why does a Brahmos look exactly like a P-800 and a Brahmos II look like a Zircon?

Except it didn't get established with entirely indigenous know-how did it.
 
Recovering from the mess your M****F***** elders made of Indians.
Don't look now but you're still 'recovering', except you have nobody to blame anymore. The rockets are just an elaborate smokescreen to cover up the standard of living issues. More rockets = more smoke generated.

And poor Singapore is still recovering from the Cholas. Oh no, actually they aren't.:LOL::LOL::LOL: And it looks like Afghanistan still hasn't recovered from the Guptas and Mughals I see.:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:
 
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Don't look now but you're still 'recovering', except you have nobody to blame anymore. The rockets are just an elaborate smokescreen to cover up the standard of living issues. More rockets = more smoke generated.

And poor Singapore is still recovering from the Cholas. Oh no, actually they aren't.:LOL::LOL::LOL:
No wonder your rockets fail.. You don't have any idea of something called 'Scale' in real world. Try lifting 10 KG, its easy. Try lifting 100 KG with 10 buds, its troublesome but can be done. Try lifting 1000 KG with 100 buds, you will require pullies and all. Try lifting a million KG with 10 thousand people.... Well that has not been tried till date. India is trying to achieve what only one country in the entire history of mankind has done. That country is China and it is still in mid-income group.

Lets not digress and focus on the topic of the thread that is UK, Satellite Launch System and ...... Failure of UK. :LOL::LOL::LOL:
 
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British scientists have been outsourced to foreign rocket programs and well, we just have a top-notch university-level education system.

Again boasting, promising the moon & then delivering nothing is a characteristic British trait. And you don't have a properly funded space launcher development program to this day. Top notch, this that...

Only 2 of its 4 flights were successful and it launched a 40kg satellite, and to think you were taking the piss out of Black Arrow launching a 144kg satellite more than a decade earlier.

And that single 144 kg technology demonstrator launch to LEO is all you can boast about. Indians developed ASLV with 150 kg to LEO capability later & went on with PSLV, GSLV & other designs. And have the capability to launch 12 tonnes to that orbit as we speak.

Yeah, in exactly one field of engineering that we haven't actually tried in so far

Nice excuse for not trying. And we are ahead in nuclear reactors, development of ballistic missiles. And while our industry is progressing, your industrial capabilities are eroding day by day.

Your move to larger launches was taken from a Russian design.

Another brain-fart. Next design was PSLV. Nothing to do with Russia.

GSLV MkI uses a Russian cryogenic stage. They transferred the technology.

Except there is something called MTCR which forbids such ToT.

Hence we designed our own 75 kN staged cycle cryogenic engine.

And later made an ever bigger 200 kN gas generator cycle cryogenic engine on our own. Much to the dismay of jealous Brits.

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Try finding Russia here...

If you are so good at Rocket technology, why oh why does a Brahmos look exactly like a P-800 and a Brahmos II look like a Zircon?

Three things...

1. Our space & missile programs are managed by two separate organisations.

2. A ramjet is different from a liquid propulsion engine which are developed by ISRO.

3. Brahmos is a JV where Russians provide propulsion technology. And their contribution is acknowledged.

Now before you ask, we have conducted flights of our own Scramjets. So you wouldn't have anything to argue soon.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ISRO-successfully-test-fires-scramjet-engine/article14599899.ece/amp/

And we have our own ICBMs & SLBMs. Unlike some who outsource it.
 
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Only 2 of its 4 flights were successful and it launched a 40kg satellite, and to think you were taking the piss out of Black Arrow launching a 144kg satellite more than a decade earlier. Your move to larger launches was taken from a Russian design.
You were a world power back then. Your peer was putting man on the moon when you were trying to get measly 100 KG up 500 KM. And not to mention you always had clandestine support of US and Australia. FYI, there was only one successful launch of Black Arrow. A failed SRBM turned into a failed SLV.
BTW, this was 1971. In 1969 US put two men on moon.
 
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UK Space Agency: 2000 satellite launches by 2030

So many 'could's & 'would's in one article. :ROFLMAO:And they are talking about launching microsatellites.

Guess who is in that business ?


104 in a single launch. And with the Indian SSLV coming to the picture & plenty of small satellite launchers around the world the competition will be hard.

And we won't need any Russian technology

You do realise that you are pretty much nothing when it comes to space launches right ? And still mocking an established space power...
 
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If UK Space Agency is a org under UK Government, then I am assured. There is not going to be any launch but a lot of paper work after which Immigrant will be blamed and finally a deal with SpaceX will be made with a hell lot of UK Public money wasted.
 
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