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Yea Indians have a weird inferiority complex. It shows when we get over offended by some remarks by goras as well. Trump called India a dead economy and everyone made it a big deal.

One thing which I like about the chinks. They dont let such silly talk distract them. They remain silent and focused.
Yes, exactly—
remaining silent while 2% of the people hold 82% of the wealth;
silent about the unemployment affecting a population of 320 million;
silent about the fact that over half of university graduates fail to find jobs each year;
silent about the 115:100 male-to-female ratio among newborns;
and silent about halving the population growth rate in half the time it took South Korea.
Oh, and there’s also the matter of working over 2,700 hours a year while remaining silent (officially, China claims the figure is 2,550 hours—48.6 hours per week-----implying everyone is very happy; for comparison, the figure for the Philippines is 2,000 hours).
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The magnificent Yellow skin variety
 
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Let me sort out your web trash once again—the kind you use to create confusion and muddy the waters in a desperate attempt to cover up your own stupidity and fatal errors:

First, you claim that Russia's electronic technology is inferior to China's, and therefore Russian radar is weaker than Chinese radar.
I have already refuted you: Chinese radar is trash compared to Russia's. After all, the Chinese capital is protected by Russian missiles, not domestic products, and China's aerospace and space systems utilize Russian radar, rather than Russia utilizing Chinese radar.

Second, after losing on the first point, you shifted to this argument: you believe Russia is very poor, so it cannot produce sufficient quantities of the T-14 and Su-57.
I have already refuted you: the US and China simply cannot field a tank equivalent to the T-14; in fact, their tanks are far inferior even to the T-72.
Furthermore, whether it was the Soviet Union or Russia, tank production has always been the highest in the world, so there is no reason to doubt the eventual production numbers of the T-14. If you want to compare the T-14's production, compare it with China's most advanced Type 100 and America's most advanced M8—the former is in the double digits, and the latter is in the single digits.
The quantity of M8s is inferior to the T-14.(Not to mention the 2S25)
The quantity of M1s is inferior to the T-80.(Not to mention the T-72/90)
The quantity of M60s is inferior to the T-62.(Not to mention the T-54/55/T-10)


Third, following the collapse of your first two laughable points, you spewed yet another absurd theory: that because Russia is poor, it cannot manufacture weapons. You believe that rich countries can build more weapons.
So, I presented you with counterexamples: North Korea and Iran both have more weapons of similar categories than the United States, yet they are both poorer than the US.


Fourth, after the complete bankruptcy of the 3 points above, you started claiming that Russian weapons are only suitable for well-trained militaries, and that untrained militaries in the rest of the world are useless.
I deeply agreed with your logic and acknowledged that American weapons work better in the hands of the Taliban, which shows that... American weapons are not suitable for well-trained militaries... such as those of India and China. This is entirely your logic.So you guys aren't suitable for buying American weapons either, I don't know what you're sulking about

In all four points above, I refuted you entirely by using your own logic—I don't know why you're getting so angry and flying off the handle.
In fact, admitting your mistake at the very beginning would have allowed you to cut your losses quickly, rather than gritting your teeth only to end up suffering even greater losses in the end


From the above, we can see that you are using the guise of "Chinese radar is better than American radar" to brag to me, but in reality, you don't care about Chinese weapons at all, do you?

All you want to do is seize every moment to belittle Russia. Unfortunately for you, India is still buying Russian equipment and technology in massive quantities, rather than purchasing from your heavenly United States.

So it's useless for you to curse at me here—you should go curse at your own government instead.:giggle:
You should ignore people like @RationalGuy , contrary to their name, they are among the least rational people among the free internet, heck he is an american fanboy, how much more worse can you get honestly, he probably bases his opinion on american circle jerk reddit subs and forums where america is always great and russia always bad even though evidence have pointed to the opposite countless times but I do appreciate you taking the time to logically take apart and absolutely debunk all his ignorance, after all People live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. That is how they define their reality. But what is correct and true? It’s merely a vague concept... their reality may all be an illusion.
 
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Dude what are you a teen? You're seriously comparing other Russian jets to F22? You think that's a fair comparison? Wow so USSR produced 10,000 Mig 15 which is as hard to produce as F22. *Slow claps*. F35s electronics engine sensors stealth coating all are more complex than Su 57 even then US produces more F35s in couple of months than Russia has produced Su 57 in 16 years.

A simple question I ask, how many Su 57 are there and how many T14 are there and you fellows have no response at all, because deep down you know how pitiful Russias defence industrial complex is right now compared to the US.

You say "sar engine not ready sar" US F135 engine has a thrust of 193 kN and still US produced thousands of it already. Al51 has lower thrust and likely less advanced metallurgy and Russia still hasn't mass produced it yet. So know Russia's level. Theres only so much one can do with an economy lower than Italy lol.
Next, you dress up your ignorance and assumptions as facts contrary to evidence. You say Russia is incapable of mass producing complex missionary whereas history clearly proves otherwise, next you incorrectly assumed I compared F22 with Mig 15 which might be a honest mistake from all the cheese in your blood from those cheap Big Mac's. If F22 was such a great jet and something most american's consider as america's best ever jet, why did America fail to produce even 200 of them? Is it because Murica is literally too poor to produce them en masse? or maybe it's because it's an outdated and overpriced junk that america chose to cut their losses after making it? Either way, it looks very bad for Murica.

Also, since it's established the F22 is junk, let's move onto the F35, that's another overpriced piece of flying tin which failed at it's design goal, the fat piece of turd after murica's so called hype of 5th gen absolutely needing supercruise then failed to deliver on it and LM conveniently removing them from it's requirement, I'm not even gonna talk about how most 4th gen jet's would smoke it in wvr combat or it's poor availability rate or cash drowining maitenance cost against design requirements or the embarrassing fact that it's stealth which was its only good talking point got shot by literal pirates and 3rd generation military with poor air defence, after murica's constant loss against countries world wide, it's pretty well understood that Murica's only capable of invading unprepared 3rd world nations with primitive weapons, not any modern militaries.

And who you trying to be racist against you fat pig, historically it's well known Russia or previously the Soviet Union almost consistently made better weapons than murica, they lost a decade due to the fall of USSR, currently they are well on track, don't even compare that outdated trash f22 which murica doesnt even want with the best 5th gen of our time, The AL51 already blows the F119 out of the water, so no point comparing it, the F135 and AL51 both have similar thrust to weight ratio while Al51 is lighter, superior compressor and turbine efficiency, better fuel efficiency, better stealth and engine's alone doesn't compare the full story and means nothing until we compare both in action in their aircraft, the Su57 can take off much faster the f35 even with it's interim engine, the su57 can accelerate much faster and has greater max speed than f35, Su57 has much greater combat radius than F35, the f35 loses out in maneuverability against regular 4th gen jets, let alone a undisputed super maneuverable king of the sky which much greater thrust to weight ratio, superior control and more advanced control surfaces, superior aerodynamic body along with 3d thrust vectoring. There is no universe where you can compare that fat turd with the Su57 in performance metric.
 
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You should ignore people like @RationalGuy , contrary to their name, they are among the least rational people among the free internet, heck he is an american fanboy, how much more worse can you get honestly, he probably bases his opinion on american circle jerk reddit subs and forums where america is always great and russia always bad even though evidence have pointed to the opposite countless times but I do appreciate you taking the time to logically take apart and absolutely debunk all his ignorance, after all People live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. That is how they define their reality. But what is correct and true? It’s merely a vague concept... their reality may all be an illusion.
If one simply arranges current heavy weaponry in chronological order—focusing, for instance, on the systems developed after the Cold War (which the West was so keen to frame as a "Soviet defeat")—it would drive "pro-US partisans" to despair; for it turns out that it is the West, not Russia, that has stagnated.

Faced with irrefutable facts, all one can do is throw a tantrum.

For instance, regarding the surface-to-surface missiles discussed in this thread, just look at what the West has developed since the Cold War.

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Take India, for example:
when they were developing the Agni-II, the Americans had the Trident II.
Now it’s the Agni-V and K-4, yet the Americans are still using the damn FXXK Trident II.
 
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Next, you dress up your ignorance and assumptions as facts contrary to evidence. You say Russia is incapable of mass producing complex missionary whereas history clearly proves otherwise, next you incorrectly assumed I compared F22 with Mig 15 which might be a honest mistake from all the cheese in your blood from those cheap Big Mac's. If F22 was such a great jet and something most american's consider as america's best ever jet, why did America fail to produce even 200 of them? Is it because Murica is literally too poor to produce them en masse? or maybe it's because it's an outdated and overpriced junk that america chose to cut their losses after making it? Either way, it looks very bad for Murica.

Also, since it's established the F22 is junk, let's move onto the F35, that's another overpriced piece of flying tin which failed at it's design goal, the fat piece of turd after murica's so called hype of 5th gen absolutely needing supercruise then failed to deliver on it and LM conveniently removing them from it's requirement, I'm not even gonna talk about how most 4th gen jet's would smoke it in wvr combat or it's poor availability rate or cash drowining maitenance cost against design requirements or the embarrassing fact that it's stealth which was its only good talking point got shot by literal pirates and 3rd generation military with poor air defence, after murica's constant loss against countries world wide, it's pretty well understood that Murica's only capable of invading unprepared 3rd world nations with primitive weapons, not any modern militaries.

And who you trying to be racist against you fat pig, historically it's well known Russia or previously the Soviet Union almost consistently made better weapons than murica, they lost a decade due to the fall of USSR, currently they are well on track, don't even compare that outdated trash f22 which murica doesnt even want with the best 5th gen of our time, The AL51 already blows the F119 out of the water, so no point comparing it, the F135 and AL51 both have similar thrust to weight ratio while Al51 is lighter, superior compressor and turbine efficiency, better fuel efficiency, better stealth and engine's alone doesn't compare the full story and means nothing until we compare both in action in their aircraft, the Su57 can take off much faster the f35 even with it's interim engine, the su57 can accelerate much faster and has greater max speed than f35, Su57 has much greater combat radius than F35, the f35 loses out in maneuverability against regular 4th gen jets, let alone a undisputed super maneuverable king of the sky which much greater thrust to weight ratio, superior control and more advanced control surfaces, superior aerodynamic body along with 3d thrust vectoring. There is no universe where you can compare that fat turd with the Su57 in performance metric.
You mock USA for not even producing 200 F22 while Mother Russia has not even produced 20 Su 57 🤣🤣🤣. I can also ask the same question, if Su 57 is such a great jet why Russia can't even reach the 50 mark lol. Perhaps you don't know how to count you retarded monkey.

Russian fanboys love to boast about mass production capability of Russia. Yes, mass production capability of USSR was superb. Russia is just a small little shadow of USSR. USSR made the first ICBM and caused panic in the west: Russia fumbles against a small country next door. Russia is undoubtedly a clown country. You boast about Su 57 which isn't even there in numbers 🤣. Same goes for the super invisible tank T14 which is missing in action since 2015.

FYI Egypt Syria all had sophisticated Soviet weapons. Why did tiny Israel crush them so decisively? Answer this 1 little question. As said earlier, its clear Soviet weapons have little inherent advantages in the battlefield, the deciding factor is military organization and culture. Same goes for why USSR armed Iraq totally failed against US but North Vietnam succeeded.


Regarding 3rd world countries at least US can defeat them, who can poor little Russia defeat? Can't even defeat f*cking Ukraine which is also led by a clown 😂🤡🤡🤡. US Army defeated Iraq which had the 4th largest military with Soviet weapons in just 96 hours even though Iraq was 10,000 km away. Your beloved S75 Dvinas and S100 SAMs got r*ped infront of the entire world by Tomahawk and F117 Nighthawks 🤣. Leave that can Russia even execute an operation like what US did with Venezuela? Maybe USSR could but Russia is just another regional power with a bunch of corrupt buffoons running the show 😂. Never understood why idiot indian monkeys like you love to glaze 3rd countries so much (and this goes for people who want to side with the US blindly as well).
 
The AL51 already blows the F119 out of the water, so no point comparing it, the F135 and AL51 both have similar thrust to weight ratio while Al51 is lighter, superior compressor and turbine efficiency, better fuel efficiency, better stealth
1) F119 is running since 25 years, where AL51 is not serially produce.
2) If the 2 engines have similar T/W ratio but AL51 is lighter means AL51 thrust is lower.
3) you (and I) know nothing about the compressor tech, the turbine efficiency, the fuel consumption and the stealth of each. And once again, F119 compressor is a 25 years tech. You can be sure uncle sam made progress since. For decennials US engines were and are better than russian ones, specially on life time.
You mock USA for not even producing 200 F22 while Mother Russia has not even produced 20 Su 57 🤣🤣🤣. I can also ask the same question, if Su 57 is such a great jet why Russia can't even reach the 50 mark lol. Perhaps you don't know how to count you retarded monkey.

Russian fanboys love to boast about mass production capability of Russia. Yes, mass production capability of USSR was superb. Russia is just a small little shadow of USSR. USSR made the first ICBM and caused panic in the west: Russia fumbles against a small country next door. Russia is undoubtedly a clown country. You boast about Su 57 which isn't even there in numbers 🤣. Same goes for the super invisible tank T14 which is missing in action since 2015.

FYI Egypt Syria all had sophisticated Soviet weapons. Why did tiny Israel crush them so decisively? Answer this 1 little question. As said earlier, its clear Soviet weapons have little inherent advantages in the battlefield, the deciding factor is military organization and culture. Same goes for why USSR armed Iraq totally failed against US but North Vietnam succeeded.


Regarding 3rd world countries at least US can defeat them, who can poor little Russia defeat? Can't even defeat f*cking Ukraine which is also led by a clown 😂🤡🤡🤡. US Army defeated Iraq which had the 4th largest military with Soviet weapons in just 96 hours even though Iraq was 10,000 km away. Your beloved S75 Dvinas and S100 SAMs got r*ped infront of the entire world by Tomahawk and F117 Nighthawks 🤣. Leave that can Russia even execute an operation like what US did with Venezuela? Maybe USSR could but Russia is just another regional power with a bunch of corrupt buffoons running the show 😂. Never understood why idiot indian monkeys like you love to glaze 3rd countries so much (and this goes for people who want to side with the US blindly as well).
Su57 is so potent that uncle Vlad don't want to use it over Ukraine.
 
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Next, you dress up your ignorance and assumptions as facts contrary to evidence. You say Russia is incapable of mass producing complex missionary whereas history clearly proves otherwise, next you incorrectly assumed I compared F22 with Mig 15 which might be a honest mistake from all the cheese in your blood from those cheap Big Mac's. If F22 was such a great jet and something most american's consider as america's best ever jet, why did America fail to produce even 200 of them? Is it because Murica is literally too poor to produce them en masse? or maybe it's because it's an outdated and overpriced junk that america chose to cut their losses after making it? Either way, it looks very bad for Murica.

Also, since it's established the F22 is junk, let's move onto the F35, that's another overpriced piece of flying tin which failed at it's design goal, the fat piece of turd after murica's so called hype of 5th gen absolutely needing supercruise then failed to deliver on it and LM conveniently removing them from it's requirement, I'm not even gonna talk about how most 4th gen jet's would smoke it in wvr combat or it's poor availability rate or cash drowining maitenance cost against design requirements or the embarrassing fact that it's stealth which was its only good talking point got shot by literal pirates and 3rd generation military with poor air defence, after murica's constant loss against countries world wide, it's pretty well understood that Murica's only capable of invading unprepared 3rd world nations with primitive weapons, not any modern militaries.

And who you trying to be racist against you fat pig, historically it's well known Russia or previously the Soviet Union almost consistently made better weapons than murica, they lost a decade due to the fall of USSR, currently they are well on track, don't even compare that outdated trash f22 which murica doesnt even want with the best 5th gen of our time, The AL51 already blows the F119 out of the water, so no point comparing it, the F135 and AL51 both have similar thrust to weight ratio while Al51 is lighter, superior compressor and turbine efficiency, better fuel efficiency, better stealth and engine's alone doesn't compare the full story and means nothing until we compare both in action in their aircraft, the Su57 can take off much faster the f35 even with it's interim engine, the su57 can accelerate much faster and has greater max speed than f35, Su57 has much greater combat radius than F35, the f35 loses out in maneuverability against regular 4th gen jets, let alone a undisputed super maneuverable king of the sky which much greater thrust to weight ratio, superior control and more advanced control surfaces, superior aerodynamic body along with 3d thrust vectoring. There is no universe where you can compare that fat turd with the Su57 in performance metric.
Btw SR71 was such an amazing aircraft Soviet SAMs despite being formidable never managed to down even 1 SR71 for decades (not to mention SR71 is 1960s US technology 😂) and US built like less than 15 of them. So the conclusion according to your dumb logic is SR71 is an inferior aircraft because US didn't mass produce them 🤣.

Russia is too poor to even produce 100 Su 57, they have to run to us to fund it. How sad.
 
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1) F119 is running since 25 years, where AL51 is not serially produce.
2) If the 2 engines have similar T/W ratio but AL51 is lighter means AL51 thrust is lower.
3) you (and I) know nothing about the compressor tech, the turbine efficiency, the fuel consumption and the stealth of each. And once again, F119 compressor is a 25 years tech. You can be sure uncle sam made progress since. For decennials US engines were and are better than russian ones, specially on life time.

Su57 is so potent that uncle Vlad don't want to use it over Ukraine.
Russia took almost 40 years to match F119 which USA had started testing in 1980s, US has already produced hundreds of F119 while Russia has produced probably less than 20 AL51s. And these clownish monkeys boast about Russias mass production capabilities 😂🤡🙉.

F22 flew 20-25 years earlier than Su 57 yet it still has superior stealth, superior speed, superior altitude and has been produced in much higher numbers. Thats called a testament to a military industrial complex. I would be surprised if Su 57 can even beat J20 in BVR combat lol. These idiots boast about WVR performance and don't know that BVR is now the deciding factor of air supremacy as shown in Op Sindoor.

But some would rather ranting endlessly like demented pigs than come to terms with the fact that Su 57 and T14 production is so pitiful which is a reflection of the inferior industrial and economic capabilities that Russia has since the collapse of USSR.
 
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Russia took almost 40 years to match F119 which USA had started testing in 1980s, US has already produced hundreds of F119 while Russia has produced probably less than 20 AL51s. And these clownish monkeys boast about Russias mass production capabilities 😂🤡🙉.

F22 flew 20-25 years earlier than Su 57 yet it still has superior stealth, superior speed, superior altitude and has been produced in much higher numbers. Thats called a testament to a military industrial complex. I would be surprised if Su 57 can even beat J20 in BVR combat lol. These idiots boast about WVR performance and don't know that BVR is now the deciding factor of air supremacy as shown in Op Sindoor.

But some would rather ranting endlessly like demented pigs than come to terms with the fact that Su 57 and T14 production is so pitiful which is a reflection of the inferior industrial and economic capabilities that Russia has since the collapse of USSR.
What a shame! By Russian standards, both the F100 and F110 produce less than 10 tons of thrust—and the F110 was introduced in 1986, whereas the 1984 AL-31F delivers 12.5 tons.
The D-30F6 was already in service for years before you guys finally got the F119. On top of that, the F119’s thrust at high speeds doesn't even match the D-30F6's.
What a joke!

On top of that, there's also:
R-79: 16 tons
R-179: 20 tons
AL-41F: 18 tons
D-30F8: 20 tons
Hehehe, these are all based on the "testing phase" statistical criteria you mentioned.
And your American daddy even bought the R-79 nozzle patent for that piece of junk, the F-35...
Even your American daddy didn't bother hiding it back then, calling the project "141."
As for the NK-25 and NK-32—those sick, monstrous things are beyond anything your American daddy could even dream of, and even to this day, they still can't make anything like them...
Oh, right, there's also the R-36-51 and NK-144.
In the end, Americans had no choice but to rely on Russian engines for their experiments.
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Guess why there’s an American logo on the aircraft?
Because your American daddy couldn't build it themselves.

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1 of these alone puts all 4 of the engines on that piece-of-trash B-2 of yours to shame.

At the same time, they still had to import Russian rocket engines—including bringing in Russians to fix the screeching instability issues on your daddy's junk Space Shuttle engine, the SSME (RS-25).

Of course, with all your daddy's high-tech air power, their proud achievement against Soviet SAM missiles in Vietnam was getting 9,000 planes shot down, haha.
Not 90, not even 900.
The total number of American aircraft shot down by Soviet weapons in Vietnam alone is several times higher than the total combat losses of all other countries combined—including training accidents—from the end of WWII to this very day.

I really don't get why Americans love pouring salt on their own wounds every single time.
 
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Btw SR71 was such an amazing aircraft Soviet SAMs despite being formidable never managed to down even 1 SR71 for decades (not to mention SR71 is 1960s US technology 😂) and US built like less than 15 of them. So the conclusion according to your dumb logic is SR71 is an inferior aircraft because US didn't mass produce them 🤣.

Russia is too poor to even produce 100 Su 57, they have to run to us to fund it. How sad.
Your daddy's "magical" U-2 got shot down like sitting ducks, one by one.
So they didn't dare keep building that piece of SR-71 junk, did they? After all, that garbage SR-71 couldn't even seal its own fuel tanks.
As for that U-2 I just mentioned, it didn't even have proper landing gear! When landing, they had to get two cars—one on the left, one on the right—to manually catch and hold up the plane's wings. What kind of pea-brained idiot comes up with a "cute" design like that?
On top of that, your "merciful" American daddy secretly installed a self-destruct device on the U-2 without telling the pilots, wiring the switch directly to the parachute ejection system.
The goal? Blow the pilot up along with the plane—leave no survivors.
On May 1, 1960, a U-2 reconnaissance plane flying over the Ural Mountains in the Soviet Union was shot down. The pilot, Francis Gary Powers, miraculously ejected and survived (shrapnel from the Soviet missile damaged the self-destruct mechanism), after which he was secretly detained by the Soviets. The Americans believed the self-destruct mechanism was foolproof and assumed Powers was dead. However, on May 5, Khrushchev unexpectedly announced that an American aircraft violating Soviet airspace had been shot down, and the pilot was alive. On May 16, at the Four-Power Summit between the US, UK, France, and USSR, Khrushchev fiercely demanded an apology from the US. The US announced it would suspend reconnaissance flights but refused to apologize, forcing the summit to be canceled.
You should go check your daddy's SR-71 to see if it came with the exact same equipment.
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You mock USA for not even producing 200 F22 while Mother Russia has not even produced 20 Su 57 🤣🤣🤣. I can also ask the same question, if Su 57 is such a great jet why Russia can't even reach the 50 mark lol. Perhaps you don't know how to count you retarded monkey.
The difference you constantly don't have the ability to understand is that even America who is capable of producing jets in thousands of numbers including their even more advanced F35 only produced 200 F22, what does that say about their trust in the jet and it's relevant capability? If you are unable to use basic comprehension and put two and two together, I sadly can't help you my friend. Meanwhile the Su57 is still being produced today and will enter mass production when it's final stage engine is ready.

Also, did you use google or AI to say "Russia has not even produced 20 Su 57" ? Either way, it shows your poor and lackluster capability to even do basic research, I suggest you to learn to do the basics right before participating in defence forums and wasting everyone's time, why do you think @Hyperactive ADD constantly kept beating and debunking you and your arguments? You might find the answer if you looked inward.
Russian fanboys love to boast about mass production capability of Russia. Yes, mass production capability of USSR was superb. Russia is just a small little shadow of USSR. USSR made the first ICBM and caused panic in the west: Russia fumbles against a small country next door. Russia is undoubtedly a clown country. You boast about Su 57 which isn't even there in numbers 🤣. Same goes for the super invisible tank T14 which is missing in action since 2015.
I wouldn't call the biggest European country a small country but geography might not be your strong point. Not to mention even with sanctions, shortages, repair/upgrades they produced over hundred aircrafts which is not a bad number.
FYI Egypt Syria all had sophisticated Soviet weapons. Why did tiny Israel crush them so decisively? Answer this 1 little question. As said earlier, its clear Soviet weapons have little inherent advantages in the battlefield, the deciding factor is military organization and culture. Same goes for why USSR armed Iraq totally failed against US but North Vietnam succeeded.
I guess you are not familiar with the arab or middle eastern military culture.
Regarding 3rd world countries at least US can defeat them, who can poor little Russia defeat? Can't even defeat f*cking Ukraine which is also led by a clown 😂🤡🤡🤡. US Army defeated Iraq which had the 4th largest military with Soviet weapons in just 96 hours even though Iraq was 10,000 km away. Your beloved S75 Dvinas and S100 SAMs got r*ped infront of the entire world by Tomahawk and F117 Nighthawks 🤣. Leave that can Russia even execute an operation like what US did with Venezuela? Maybe USSR could but Russia is just another regional power with a bunch of corrupt buffoons running the show 😂. Never understood why idiot indian monkeys like you love to glaze 3rd countries so much (and this goes for people who want to side with the US blindly as well).
Your complete lack of awareness about Ukraine is not anybody's fault here, Ukraine isn't a third world country like the one america usually picks a fight with to end up losing, it's the largest European country who had the second most Soviet Inheritance after Russia from USSR who was the biggest military in the world back then, not to mention it received tens of billions of dollars in weapons, training, intelligence and funds from NATO aka the entire western military ecosystem and strongest Military alliance in the planet. The fact that Russia achieved what it did against such a massive force even with all the economic sanctions and blacklisting shows how capable they are, to compare this with America who is unable to beat even Vietnam or Afganistan with all their military, economic and geopolitical power and infact losing against them is completely laughable.
 
1) F119 is running since 25 years, where AL51 is not serially produce.
2) If the 2 engines have similar T/W ratio but AL51 is lighter means AL51 thrust is lower.
3) you (and I) know nothing about the compressor tech, the turbine efficiency, the fuel consumption and the stealth of each. And once again, F119 compressor is a 25 years tech. You can be sure uncle sam made progress since. For decennials US engines were and are better than russian ones, specially on life time.
1. Not relevant to this conversation

2. It's the T/W which is more relevant as a figure for it's capability and unlike F135 where only 1 can fit inside an american 5th gen, the Al-51 can be fit twice in Russian 5th gen producing much greater thrust, acceleration, TWR etc. Not to mention engine alone doesn't mean much if we don't look at what the jets they are fit inside is capable of, the F35 can't supercruise, loses against most 4th gen fighters in wvr combat, has less combat range than Su57 and also has longer take off time than Su57. Compare that with Su57 which has much greater thrust, accelearation, twr, lower take off time, can supercruise, has greater combat radius, super maneuverability and infact the best dog fighter in the planet and various other advantages. There is no scope to even comparing both to each other, F35 is mostly on 4th gen category of performance while Su57 is above 5th capability.

3. Also I was comparing the Al51 with F135 not F119 which isn't even a match against it, The Al-51 achieves same TWR with 5 high pressure compressor stages compared to 6 of Al-51, it also needs only 1 stage low pressure turbine versus two for F135, better stealth features with flat nozzle and also 3d thrust vectoring while F135 has only serrated nozzles and no thrust vectoring except for its STOVL variant, not to mention better use of composites in AL51 like in inlet guide vanes and other sections. The Al-51 is by all definitions a superior engine.
Su57 is so potent that uncle Vlad don't want to use it over Ukraine.
It's so potent that unlike the middle east, America is too scared to use their F35 against them, even middle eastern pirates and soviet era equipments embarassed the F35 worldwide, makes sense why they are too scared to deploy against a modern military.
 
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What a shame! By Russian standards, both the F100 and F110 produce less than 10 tons of thrust—and the F110 was introduced in 1986, whereas the 1984 AL-31F delivers 12.5 tons.
The D-30F6 was already in service for years before you guys finally got the F119. On top of that, the F119’s thrust at high speeds doesn't even match the D-30F6's.
What a joke!

On top of that, there's also:
R-79: 16 tons
R-179: 20 tons
AL-41F: 18 tons
D-30F8: 20 tons
Hehehe, these are all based on the "testing phase" statistical criteria you mentioned.
And your American daddy even bought the R-79 nozzle patent for that piece of junk, the F-35...
Even your American daddy didn't bother hiding it back then, calling the project "141."
As for the NK-25 and NK-32—those sick, monstrous things are beyond anything your American daddy could even dream of, and even to this day, they still can't make anything like them...
Oh, right, there's also the R-36-51 and NK-144.
In the end, Americans had no choice but to rely on Russian engines for their experiments.
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Guess why there’s an American logo on the aircraft?
Because your American daddy couldn't build it themselves.

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1 of these alone puts all 4 of the engines on that piece-of-trash B-2 of yours to shame.

At the same time, they still had to import Russian rocket engines—including bringing in Russians to fix the screeching instability issues on your daddy's junk Space Shuttle engine, the SSME (RS-25).

Of course, with all your daddy's high-tech air power, their proud achievement against Soviet SAM missiles in Vietnam was getting 9,000 planes shot down, haha.
Not 90, not even 900.
The total number of American aircraft shot down by Soviet weapons in Vietnam alone is several times higher than the total combat losses of all other countries combined—including training accidents—from the end of WWII to this very day.

I really don't get why Americans love pouring salt on their own wounds every single time.
I absolutely love whenever you absolutely debunk and destroy this clown, it's like he frequently visits an american circle jerk group, gets high on copium and becomes Euphoric here intoxicated and you arrive here like methadone to treat those copium addicted crackheads in therapy.
 
I do not know why certain accounts continue to use older pictures when it comes to showing the Taj Mahal. Multiple sources that I checked showed that the Govt. seems to keep the area behind it pretty clean. Finally someone clipped a fairly recent tourist video and shared it on SM.

You may disagree with the language used here. However, there are certain accounts on SM that seem to love to spread older videos and pictures.

 
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It's so potent that unlike the middle east, America is too scared to use their F35 against them, even middle eastern pirates and soviet era equipments embarassed the F35 worldwide, makes sense why they are too scared to deploy against a modern military.
Israelis and US used F35 every day over iranian and Syrian soil.
Su57 is only an aero show jet. The few built are hand made. Russian air force is made of Su27 and Mig29 brothers.
Meanwhile the Su57 is still being produced today and will enter mass production when it's final stage engine is ready.
Su57 is like T14 Armata : far too costly for the ruined russian economy.
 
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Israelis and US used F35 every day over iranian and Syrian soil.
Tell me something we don't know, like I said, america is too scared to use their 5th gen against a modern military cause it will expose it's real capability, it's not like actual experts dont already know.
Su57 is only an aero show jet. The few built are hand made. Russian air force is made of Su27 and Mig29 brothers.

Su57 is like T14 Armata : far too costly for the ruined russian economy.
Whatever helps you cope and also address my previous points instead of running away like the americans did.
 
??? are the russian standards differents than the west ones ?
For me F100 and F110 are in the 11 to 13 tons of thrust, more or less (with AB).
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The rated thrust for the F100/F110 is based on Mach 0.6,
whereas for the AL-31F/RD-33, it is based on V=0.

At V=0, the thrust of the F110-129 is 9,972 kg (less than 20,000 lbs).