Big words for nothing. Your argument would have made sense if Izd 30 never existed. Good luck.
PAK-FA / Sukhoi Su-57 - Updates and Discussions
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Big words for nothing. Your argument would have made sense if Izd 30 never existed. Good luck.
Except it already does but you are still stuck on middle school physics.
Also sorry for being rude all the way, let's agree to disagree.
Lmao what i dont think the russians have claimed to do anything like this, has to be BS
I see no evidence of such claims in any media.
Social media accounts spreading fake news/narratives are a curse. The account even has 'Bharat' in it. Man, I am tired of Indian naviety or deliberate engagement farming whatever this is.
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The Ukrainian military has not issued an official confirmation regarding the loss of a Saab 340. Reports of the Swedish-supplied airborne early warning aircraft being shot down in eastern Ukraine stem from unverified claims by Russian military bloggers. [1]
Current Status of the Saab 340 in Ukraine
The Ukrainian military has not issued an official confirmation regarding the loss of a Saab 340. Reports of the Swedish-supplied airborne early warning aircraft being shot down in eastern Ukraine stem from unverified claims by Russian military bloggers. [1]
Current Status of the Saab 340 in Ukraine
- The Claim: Russian sources, including prominent military blogger Boris Rozhin, alleged that a Ukrainian Saab 340 Airborne Early Warning and Control (AEW&C) aircraft (ASC 890) was targeted and hit by an air-to-air missile fired by a Russian Su-57 fighter. [1]
- Verification: As of May 12, 2026, there is no official corroboration of this loss from the Ukrainian Air Force or the Swedish Ministry of Defense. Western defense analysts and media often treat such specific operational loss claims from Russian channels with skepticism until physical evidence or official statements are provided. [1]
- Capability:
Mate fighter bomber hasnt confirmed it and that on its own is enough. Such a high value target would have massive declarations from the Vks and the RU MoD. Its fake.
This is a strategic asset, there won't be any confirmation, only claims and denials. Unless some wreckage media emerges.
Putin is already saying that the war is winding down. This war has been a huge failure for Russia. Cannot annex Odessa and entire Donetsk as well.
We will sign the deal only when the war stops and IAF gets the jet for proper evaluation.
Fighterbomber saying Su-57 two seater did taxi trails. Last year after Dubai Air show he mentioned IAF being interested in this version.
And people thought HAL is randomly involved with the Russians for Su-57 deal, lol:
As I said earlier, it is outright decision of both GOI & IAF. @randomradio, @_Anonymous_
As I said earlier, it is outright decision of both GOI & IAF. @randomradio, @_Anonymous_
It almost looks like they bolted the front fuselage of the Su30SM while retaining the Su-57 nose cone and called it a day.
You've misread it. What's in the tweet there is actually what I've been saying. HAL's talks with Russia are useless, it has to be approved by MoD, and there's no approval.
So there's nothing happening with the IAF on this front.
IAF is asking for something the Russians cannot provide, ie, training an IAF pilot on the Su-57M1 so it can be evaluated in India; Rajasthan and Leh. That's been the requirement since 2017, which the Russians have denied permission for. By asking for the impossible, the IAF is showing no intention of going for the Su-57. It's a dead-end program for the IAF.
Now what's necessary is for the Russians to finish the development of the two-seat and then give IAF pilots a backseat ride. But by the time this happens, ie, two-seat achieving operational capability and with the Izd 30 (very important), AMCA will already be flying and IAF would have made a decision on SCAF/GCAP, plus the Chinese would be flying 6th gen J-XX.
At this point, the Su-60 will have to show extraordinary value beyond what the AMCA provides because IAF will have to justify duplicating AMCA's capability at a cost that rivals or more than rivals India's participation in SCAF/GCAP and the contract value of AMCA. It means Su-60 will have to duplicate the capabilities of SCAF/GCAP to have any value to the IAF.
So new competition between SCAF, GCAP, Su-60, and maybe F-47.
Looks like the same inlet design.
The spine has been modified the same way as on the Su-27 to Su-30 conversion. The increased height compensates for the loss of fuel from Tank 1 due to the second cockpit. This way both carry the same amount of fuel.
Let's see if they have enlarged the stinger for a rear-facing radar which the IAF originally wanted.
Its a modification of T-50-4/T-50-5 prototype, they converted it into a twin seater, its more of a demonstrator, will be G-limited in flight tests as its base structure was not built for twin seats.