Israel, US Strike Iran After Weeks Of Warning, Explosions Heard In Tehran
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Looks like Indian ship got clearance first and Iran still fired at them
Captain was heard yelling you have given clearance.
Tired of these Mullahs man. Globalist West on one side and Islamic Mullahs on the other side.
Global left is fully aligned with Islamic Mullahs. So, we get criticised by both Globalist west and Mullah Left. Tired of this man.
What about with US CAS and air drops?
TBH if they equipped these oil tankers with some FPV drones and .50cal MGs that would probably be enough to take out these crappy IRGC troll boats anyway.
This is perhaps one of the worst CF process that has been implemented. I have heard a lot about how there was a plan when it came to getting a handle on Iranian blockade. The Iranian gun boats, apart from the usual oil tankers, are now running circles around cargo ships as well. The word on the street, for days, was that the Sepah Navy is finished and the strait will be kept open by applying suitable pressure. There were already mines that needed clearing and now these small gun boats carrying ATGMs and LMGs have jumped into the fray.
It takes 3-4 hrs to cross the strait of Hormuz. Iran will just keep firing Shahed drones at you from the long coastline. No way FPV drones and guns can protect you from those drones.
Some mf'ers still trying to ice-skate uphill.
They're mostly using boats though. Jamming can prevent drone control.
Suez 1956 showed that a power could still possess weapons, a fleet, and a history, yet have already lost control of the system. The real verdict came not from the battlefield, but from finance and monetary dependence. London discovered that one no longer dominates the world when one no longer controls the reserve currency or the conditions of its refinancing.
Hormuz 2026 could play a similar role for the United States, not because it is militarily weak, but because it risks revealing another fragility: that of a power that remains central but is becoming less reliable as a neutral guarantor of global trade, energy, and the dollar. If Washington transforms the security of maritime routes into an instrument of erratic political pressure, then it will itself damage the systemic privilege on which it depends.
China does not need to replace the dollar tomorrow to take advantage of such a moment. All it takes is for it to appear as the go-to player when companies want to diversify their risks, secure their supplies, circumvent some of the American influence, or simply prepare for the future. In this sense, Hormuz could be the Suez of the 21st century: not the day America ceases to be dominant, but the day the rest of the world begins to seriously consider how to live with less America at the center of the system.
Hormuz 2026 could play a similar role for the United States, not because it is militarily weak, but because it risks revealing another fragility: that of a power that remains central but is becoming less reliable as a neutral guarantor of global trade, energy, and the dollar. If Washington transforms the security of maritime routes into an instrument of erratic political pressure, then it will itself damage the systemic privilege on which it depends.
China does not need to replace the dollar tomorrow to take advantage of such a moment. All it takes is for it to appear as the go-to player when companies want to diversify their risks, secure their supplies, circumvent some of the American influence, or simply prepare for the future. In this sense, Hormuz could be the Suez of the 21st century: not the day America ceases to be dominant, but the day the rest of the world begins to seriously consider how to live with less America at the center of the system.
The parallel with Suez is far less far-fetched than it seems.
In 1956, what killed the pound sterling wasn't a British military defeat in the strict sense. It was the fact that the crisis revealed London no longer truly controlled the order upon which its currency depended. Great Britain still had weapons, a fleet, and imperial reflexes, but it could no longer single-handedly guarantee the routes of its own system. And when Washington refused to support the pound, the whole picture collapsed.
Strait of Hormuz could play the same role for the United States. Not because the dollar is going to collapse tomorrow, nor because the yuan is poised to take its place as the world's reserve currency. But because if the United States fails to reopen Strait of Hormuz, or appears politically incapable of paying the price, then a very simple question arises: what exactly is the point of the dollar's hegemony if it no longer guarantees the routes of energy and global trade?
This is where China comes in. Beijing doesn't need to replace the dollar overnight. It simply needs to become the indispensable intermediary, the substitute guarantor, or simply the credible alternative for the Gulf and Asian countries. From there, it can demand its counterpart: a few more oil payments in yuan, a few more bilateral contracts outside the dollar, a few more new financial habits. It's not spectacular, but that's how systems shift: first in flows, then in minds, and only much later in reserves.
The most perverse aspect for Washington is that markets can continue to favor the dollar in the short term while beginning to doubt the American system in the long term. The dollar can rise because there's no better refuge in chaos, even as that chaos slowly erodes the credibility of the American order. So yes, the dollar can hold up in the market and simultaneously crumble as the world's architecture.
The real threat, therefore, is not the petroyuan's grand finale. The real threat is the gradual disappearance of American dominance. The day bankers in the Gulf, Asia, and Africa begin to say not "we must get out of the dollar immediately," but "we must prepare for the day when we can be a little less dependent on it," then the process has already begun.
Suez announced the end of an order before people were even ready to see it. Hormuz could do the same: not announce the immediate end of the dollar, but reveal that the power that sustains it is no longer as naturally capable of ordering the world as it believed.
In 1956, what killed the pound sterling wasn't a British military defeat in the strict sense. It was the fact that the crisis revealed London no longer truly controlled the order upon which its currency depended. Great Britain still had weapons, a fleet, and imperial reflexes, but it could no longer single-handedly guarantee the routes of its own system. And when Washington refused to support the pound, the whole picture collapsed.
Strait of Hormuz could play the same role for the United States. Not because the dollar is going to collapse tomorrow, nor because the yuan is poised to take its place as the world's reserve currency. But because if the United States fails to reopen Strait of Hormuz, or appears politically incapable of paying the price, then a very simple question arises: what exactly is the point of the dollar's hegemony if it no longer guarantees the routes of energy and global trade?
This is where China comes in. Beijing doesn't need to replace the dollar overnight. It simply needs to become the indispensable intermediary, the substitute guarantor, or simply the credible alternative for the Gulf and Asian countries. From there, it can demand its counterpart: a few more oil payments in yuan, a few more bilateral contracts outside the dollar, a few more new financial habits. It's not spectacular, but that's how systems shift: first in flows, then in minds, and only much later in reserves.
The most perverse aspect for Washington is that markets can continue to favor the dollar in the short term while beginning to doubt the American system in the long term. The dollar can rise because there's no better refuge in chaos, even as that chaos slowly erodes the credibility of the American order. So yes, the dollar can hold up in the market and simultaneously crumble as the world's architecture.
The real threat, therefore, is not the petroyuan's grand finale. The real threat is the gradual disappearance of American dominance. The day bankers in the Gulf, Asia, and Africa begin to say not "we must get out of the dollar immediately," but "we must prepare for the day when we can be a little less dependent on it," then the process has already begun.
Suez announced the end of an order before people were even ready to see it. Hormuz could do the same: not announce the immediate end of the dollar, but reveal that the power that sustains it is no longer as naturally capable of ordering the world as it believed.
Probably demolition work as the Iranians try to regain access to the tunnel networks.
Actually this process was long set into motion when the US led west froze Russian assets & threw them out of the SWIFT banking system.
Not only did prospective rivals of the US led west like China gradually shift their focus to bullion while correspondingly reducing their exposure to US Treasury Bonds & the USD but so did the west's allies like KSA , UAE etc & neutral parties like India.
Trump has only accelerated the process & when the war with China will come as it's a question of when not if , that will be the last nail in the coffin of the dominance of the USD as the reserve currency of the world. The huge deficit of the US will do the rest.
In fact though this may be far fetched today , these developments along with the existing political & social chasm across the US polity which will accelerate given these developments & more may well see a division & splitting up of the US eventually.
As far as the US undermining the UK goes I'd previously linked a documentary here on it . It came as a revelation for up until that point in time we in India were given to believe there was a lot of unity of thought & purpose in the trans Atlantic alliance.
The US actually leveraged the UK's shaky position post Dunkirk & Germany's aggression to forward their own agenda systematically dismantling UK's economy empire & hegemony . The Nazis proved a dependable ally even if unintentionally.
Jewboy Kissinger wasn't joking when he quipped - To be an enemy of America is dangerous but to be a friend is absolutely fatal.
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Seems like YT has terminated the channel which created that video I'd posted in the above link .
I've linked a few others which tackle the same topic here.
The only person here more ignorant & even more nonchalant about this whole affair would be Paddy ! @BMD
Highly likely that the Iranian delegation coming to Pakistan for negotiations will be targeted by uncle sam.
