My fear is what if Pakistan copies Iranian strategy next time.
Israel, US Strike Iran After Weeks Of Warning, Explosions Heard In Tehran
- Thread starter Ashwin
- Start date
They don't have the industrial capability or the oil money to fund it. The Pakistanis are done for at least another decade, and that's with economic reforms.
Its the other way round. India should copy that strategy against China. In a conflict with China, India should respond with a million or 10 million missiles making all of Chinese "High Tech" weaponry useless.
Depend less on oil and gas imports I would say. Concentrate on bio fuel to reduce vulnerability.
That's long term. We are at the bare minimum a decade away from peak oil. And our oil imports will exceed 8 mbpd by 2030 to feed our expanded refinery capacity. And it will stay that way until the 2040s.
And even if we switch completely away from oil for transportation and power production, we will still need that much oil to produce petrochemicals. Who knows how long it's going to take to create alternatives there.
India's graph is nonsensical as claimed at the bottom, but you can see the trend in China even with current policies. So even our petrochem/petroleum consumption will flip by 2050.
Replacing petrochems with biomass is half a century-level effort.
All they really know is that nothing worked, including the Chinese counter-stealth radars.
there are ways to counter it,
increasing the AD systems to much greater level, that will include BMD1, BMD2, mrsam, kusha,s400, akash, akash ng,qrsam,vlsrsam, anti cuas ,dew , so does the magazine depth, which are doable without any hurdles,
and simultaneously creating a offensive CUAS zone, simillar to what russians are adapting, a inner grid in which you control everything, strike anything vechicle or troop movements about10km of radius of your control territory, constant surveillance and instant strikes, in second layer under artilery units detecting and striking upto 50km, advancing troops, thier supply routes, logistical nodes, convoys, enemy artilery batteries, denying them to move anything in frontline, last deep strike zones 100km, taking out enemy high valuable targets, command posts, Hq, supply lines, isolating them from battlefield access, do we have anything simillar yes we absolutely do, the new formed ashni platoons, bhairav battalions, shaktibaan regiments, shaurya squadrons, ashni and bhairav are rightly poised for first layer, shaktibaan regiment is rightly poistion for second and third layer, and they operate simillar range drones under the command,
and striking the industrial and technical centers of the pakistan in the first wave itself, should have completed the strikes of paf kamra and taxila, gave them a long rope,
What civvy infra Pakistan hit in last 4 days conflict? Except the collateral due to artillery strikes in border sectors.
India doesn't have muslces of fighting a full scale war with Pakistan. The first 16 days munitions cost for US-Israel & Gulf was about 26B USD and we are not counting any losses yet.
And mind you, Iran has only two cards - ballistic missiles + drones and US/ Israel has total air superiority over Iran.Pakistan is completely a different beast compared to Iran.
And India doesn't have even half a strength as compared to US.
How are they going to rebuild when anything military / semi military is bombed to ground?
Iran got very cruel beating and is effectively cut to its size. It's no longer a regional power when even UAE with its mirage 2000 can bomb it if Iran pokes it.
For any learning to incorporate in the weapon systems, you need a functional military infrastructure that's in case of Iran is bombed out.
Ireland gridlocked by fuel protests as Iran war drives prices higher
Protestors are taking issue with the government's response to the spike in fuel prices since the onset of the Iran war.
Protests around fuel prices in Ireland are entering their fourth day, with three of the country’s main refineries and terminals blockaded, and traffic in Dublin at a standstill.
The demonstrations have been primarily instigated by farmers, agricultural contractors and road haulage operators, who are upset with the government’s response to the spike in fuel prices since the onset of the Iran war.
However, recognized industry bodies, including the Irish Farmers’ Association and the Irish Road Haulage Association, are not involved.
Countries around the world are grappling with higher fuel prices as a result of the Middle East conflict. British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Thursday he was “fed up” seeing energy bills in the U.K. fluctuate because of actions taken by U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Oil prices were off their highs on Friday as shipping flows around the Strait of Hormuz remained severely restricted.
This is exactly what puts india on back foot.The offence has become much cheaper than defence.
Mach 3 speed ballistic missile like American PrSM in Iran and ATACMs in Ukraine has proved very lethal to SAM networks.
US/Isr had total air superiority over Iran - something IAF can only dream about - still Iran was able to fire hundreds of drones and missiles to Israel ( yes big nasty MR Ballistic Missiles daily ) and Gulfies.
As i said, india in this age and day can't fight a offensive war against Pakistan neither can Pakistan go on any Gibraltar style offensives.
Asif has removed his post after censure from the Israelis. Lots of chest thumping against Israel amounting to nothing (as usual).
No one takes Asif seriously. gives establishment plausible deniability if things backfire while representing globally the public emotions about israel and co.
US and Iran prepare for high-level talks as Israel and Hezbollah trade more fire
With the ceasefire in Iran still shaky, U.S. and Iranian negotiators are heading to Pakistan for high-level talks with Iranian officials.
apnews.com
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Negotiators from Iran and the U.S. prepared for high-level talks with their ceasefire still shaky Friday, as Israel and Hezbollah traded fire and Tehran maintained its stranglehold on the Strait of Hormuz.
There remain many issues that could derail the truce — as well as negotiations for broader deal to permanently end the war.
Iran’s semiofficial Tasnim news agency, close to the Revolutionary Guard, claimed that talks set for Saturday wouldn’t happen unless Israel stopped its attacks in Lebanon. And U.S. President Donald Trump complained that Iran was “doing a very poor job” by not allowing the free flow of ships through the strait, through which 20% of the world’s traded oil once passed.
Kuwait, meanwhile, said it faced a drone attack Thursday night that it blamed on Iran and its militia allies in the region. Though Iran’s paramilitary Revolutionary Guard denied launching any assault, it has carried out attacks across the Mideast in the past that it did not claim.
And yet, preparations for the talks between Iran and the U.S. appeared to be moving forward, with U.S. Vice President JD Vance making his way to Pakistan from Washington. Negotiations between Israel and Lebanon, meanwhile, are expected to begin next week in Washington, according to a U.S. official and a person familiar with the plans, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the delicacy of the matter.
So what kind of Pr ASM & ATACM resembling the US & Ukraine does Paxtan have in its inventory that it didn't use in the 4 day war out of the goodness of its heart .
Yet after 7th May , PAF was nowhere to be seen. As far as BMs go how many BMs do you have ?
Here's an assessment of your industrial capabilities from a member Anupu of another forum.
I think the proof of the pudding lies in its eating. I'm also of the opinion Fauji Foundation & Ganja Jr pulled off that con with Iran on the one hand & US & Israel on the other hand because the situation at home was getting precarious what with the daily hike in the prices of O&NG & what's more the uncertain supplies of it in spite of paying top dollar.
To make matters worse every time a missile successfully struck a target in Saudi Arabia , more than the Saudi thawb , the pants at Fauji Foundation turned brown.
The last thing Fauji Foundation wanted to do was to fulfill its part in the mutual defence pact with KSA. It's essentially a case of damned if you do & damned if you don't.
This is the reason I think if the CF doesn't hold , Fauji Foundation would be back to scratching its old itch - India . Even otherwise this no war no peace we now see in West Asia where Iran controls the Straits of Hormuz & charges a toll allowing few tankers to pass daily will have a cascading effect of prices of O& NG the world over.
Paxtan is no exception. Which ones again makes the situation at home untenable. Before some obscure event like Khansama diagnosed with fistula in Adiala & denied treatment makes headlines with people erupting on the streets making things difficult to control I'm of the opinion Fauji Foundation will once again try their luck with us.
Then we shall see what we shall see.
Alhamdulillah !