Israel, US Strike Iran After Weeks Of Warning, Explosions Heard In Tehran

safriz said:
Nope. Pakistan has been a well wisher of the Muslim world since independence.
For example the Algerians travelled to UN on Pakistani passports, when France blocked them from travelling abroad, during their war of independence.

On this matter , I don't trust IRGC . They are under nobody's control, not even Iranian civilian leaders can control IRGC.
UZntil that matter is not resolved, the may not stop ...at least permanently
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The Names of Countries that COULD have played a Mediator's role is this

Egypt , Jordan , Turkey , Algeria , Nigeria , South Africa , Brazil ,
Entire EUROPE , Japan , China , South Korea , Russia ,
Indonesia , Malaysia , Australia .

But Nobody bothered because Everyone knows this conflict is Very Old and has No Solution

The Hatred that Iran has for for US is too strong

So If you think Pakistan has Solved this problem by Convincing Iran to change its attitude
then , you are badly mistaken

Pakistan MIGHT get some praise for this DALALI but
Converting it into Dollars is Not easy
 
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safriz said:
Yes, but Pakistan isn't Belarus.
Pakistan is a world renowned military power.
Pakistan shot down Iranian drone and also bombed Iranian territory after they tried to show military might to Pakistan .
The reason Iran listening to Pakistan is because they know Pakistan can hit them .
Now because of military pact with the Saudis.
It has been conveyed to iran that if they don't stop hitting Saudis, Pakistan will have to jump in.

Its not a Belarus like situation, far from it.
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Don't make me laugh. US & Israel were already pounding Iran with everything they've got. There's not much more Pakistan could have added even if it came to that. Whatever pain Pakistan could have inflicted would've been like getting a mosquito bite while already getting sucker punched by US.

It's clear you're in a state of elation and aren't reading things accurately. That's fine, you're bound to go through a phase like that. Even seasoned Pakistani analysts fell into the euphoria for a while:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2041707416111190234

...before coming back to their senses:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2041772322596467189

Anyway, this is not the thread to discuss Pakistani diplomacy.
 
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STEPHEN COHEN said:
The Names of Countries that COULD have played a Mediator's role is this

Egypt , Jordan , Turkey , Algeria , Nigeria , South Africa , Brazil ,
Entire EUROPE , Japan , China , South Korea , Russia ,
Indonesia , Malaysia , Australia .

But Nobody bothered because Everyone knows this conflict is Very Old and has No Solution

The Hatred that Iran has for for US is too strong

So If you think Pakistan has Solved this problem by Convincing Iran to change its attitude
then , you are badly mistaken

Pakistan MIGHT get some praise for this DALALI but
Converting it into Dollars is Not easy
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Same is the hate the Persians have against the Arabs. Because the Arabs ended their Persian empire.
Likewise the whites are always scared of Islam and Muslims. Dates back to the crusades .
These enmities will have a pause , and no end .
But arranging that pause helped .
Did you know that last night SKYKING transmissions were happening and US heavy bombers were flying towards iran from UK and USA ?
Things were pretty critical last night, and Pakistan did a good job .
 
safriz said:
Same is the hate the Persians have against the Arabs. Because the Arabs ended their Persian empire.
Likewise the whites are always scared of Islam and Muslims. Dates back to the crusades .
These enmities will have a pause , and no end .
But arranging that pause helped .
Did you know that last night SKYKING transmissions were happening and US heavy bombers were flying towards iran from UK and USA ?
Things were pretty critical last night, and Pakistan did a good job .
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Ain't it all just U.S. talking using Pakistani mouth, instead of Pakistan playing an ACTIVE role.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2041622790298616241
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https://twitter.com/x/status/2041627750528905318
 
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Parthu said:
Don't make me laugh. US & Israel were already pounding Iran with everything they've got. There's not much more Pakistan could have added even if it came to that. Whatever pain Pakistan could have inflicted would've been like getting a mosquito bite while already getting sucker punched by US.

It's clear you're in a state of elation and aren't reading things accurately. That's fine, you're bound to go through a phase like that. Even seasoned Pakistani analysts fell into the euphoria for a while:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2041707416111190234

...before coming back to their senses:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2041772322596467189

Anyway, this is not the thread to discuss Pakistani diplomacy.
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Yeah. Same as this journalist i don't like the current Pakistani government or military leadership.
But last night was SKYKING / Foxtrot broadcast, and that's no joke .
Pakistan intervened at a very dangerous point and it worked.
 
safriz said:
Pakistan intervened at a very dangerous point and it worked.
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Pakistan didn't intervene, the decision to call off strikes happened in U.S., Pakistan was used as pressure relive point, so trump can justify his TACO to domestic audience & to the world, under the guise of *request* from Pakistani side to call of strike.

Sherif just copy pasted what he was instructed to post, to create an off ramp for trump.
 
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babablacksheep said:
Pakistan didn't intervene, the decision to call off strikes happened in U.S., Pakistan was used as pressure relive point, so trump can justify his TACO to domestic audience & to the world, under the guise of *request* from Pakistani side to call of strike.

Sherif just copy pasted what he was instructed to post, to create an off ramp for trump.
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Thats your assumption.
The common knowledge as per Trumps tweet us that Pakistan approached both USA and Iran for a ceasefire.
Unless your assumption is definitely proves. Trumps tweets is a bigger proof of Pakistani intervention.
 
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safriz said:
Yeah. Same as this journalist i don't like the current Pakistani government or military leadership.
But last night was SKYKING / Foxtrot broadcast, and that's no joke .
Pakistan intervened at a very dangerous point and it worked.
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If that's what you want to tell yourself, fine.

As of the EAMs, they happen all throughout the year (yes, even Foxtrots). If at all the US had to consider the use of nuclear weapons on Iran, the most likely way to do it would be via B-2s or B61s carried by tactical fighters. They wouldn't use a second-strike platform like SSBNs which can easily lead to miscalculations by Russia/China.
 
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safriz said:
Thats your assumption.
The common knowledge as per Trumps tweet us that Pakistan approached both USA and Iran for a ceasefire.
Unless your assumption is definitely proves. Trumps tweets is a bigger proof of Pakistani intervention.
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Assumption? Are you willfully delusional?Sharif literally copy pasted whatever *request to trump* was sent to him from abroad, before deleting/editing out of the * Draft-Pakistan P.M.'s message on X*

Literally what this post, I already attached is talking about.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2041627750528905318
safriz said:
Trumps tweets is a bigger proof of Pakistani intervention.
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Ah, * trumps tweets is a bigger PROOF* So indeed delusional
 
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Parthu said:
If that's what you want to tell yourself, fine.

As of the EAMs, they happen all throughout the year (yes, even Foxtrots). If at all the US had to consider the use of nuclear weapons on Iran, the most likely way to do it would be via B-2s or B61s carried by tactical fighters. They wouldn't use a second-strike platform like SSBNs which can easily lead to miscalculations by Russia/China.
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It was SKYKING Whisky Foxtrot .
Tango is training suffix.
Foxtrot is not
 
Parthu said:
If that's what you want to tell yourself, fine.

As of the EAMs, they happen all throughout the year (yes, even Foxtrots). If at all the US had to consider the use of nuclear weapons on Iran, the most likely way to do it would be via B-2s or B61s carried by tactical fighters. They wouldn't use a second-strike platform like SSBNs which can easily lead to miscalculations by Russia/China.
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It was SKYKING Whisky Foxtrot .
Tango is training suffix.
Foxtrot is not
babablacksheep said:
Assumption? Are you willfully delusional?Sharif literally copy pasted whatever *request to trump* was sent to him from abroad, before deleting/editing out of the * Draft-Pakistan P.M.'s message on X*

Literally what this post, I already attached is talking about.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2041627750528905318

Ah, * trumps tweets is a bigger PROOF* So indeed delusional
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Thsts not delusional. Thats logical.
A head of state of USA and also tweets from Iranians are praising Pakistan and proving Pakistan initiative.
Although Shahbaz is a pushover and will allow himself to be used.
But even that , at such a critical stage is commendable as it saved much bigger losses in the region. Specially loss of lives .
 
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safriz said:
Thsts not delusional. Thats logical.
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So you are gonna deliberately ignore the fact that Sharif copy pasted a tweet sent to him, by most likely a foreign agent, to post on twitter.

Basically instructions sent to him by Washington to *request* trump on *Pakistan's behalf* to hold off strikes & accept ceasefire.

instead of playing a *active* in the negotiations.

The only thing logical here, is Pakistan's subordination to the U.S. given your P.M. is posting instructions given by U.S. to give an off-ramp to trump for backing off.


safriz said:
A head of state of USA and also tweets from Iranians are praising Pakistan and proving Pakistan initiative.
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Proving what initiative? That pakistan is playing a role of a passive mail boy between Iran & U.S. & copy pasting whatever instructions are sent to it by Washington.

Instead of * being a geopolitically active player on the world stage, acting as a trusted mediator between both parties* that Pakistani were riling about.




safriz said:
But even that , at such a critical stage is commendable as it saved much bigger losses in the region. Specially loss of lives
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Started as a boast about pakistan's role & relevance in global stage, now changing tone to *saving lives*
 
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Let's not forget this is only two weeks cease fire and Israel is still there looking for every opportunity. By the way have Iranians started to charge 2 million Yuan per vessel passing from Hormuz?
 
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