Israel, US Strike Iran After Weeks Of Warning, Explosions Heard In Tehran

India stands for much the same as China as regards Ukraine, pretending to be neutral, while not actually being neutral.

As I've said before, neutrality isn't what's coming out of Indian media and 'online personalities'. Hell, some of the reporting isn't even accurate. In one article on YouTube Hindustan Times showed a Russian aircraft coming down after friendly fire and claimed a Russian shootdown of a Ukrainian jet.
yes because hindustan times, the extremely obviously pro russian channel, is now showing some BS it means the entirerity of India hopes ukraine goes to hell? If THE SUN or the DAILY MAIL put out an article or video or whatever saying everyone is India is a terrorist does that mean the entirity of the UK thinks everyone in India is a terrorist? answer me BMD does your media truly represent your nation? Does the fact that the BBC protected a known pedophile mean everyone in the UK protects pedophiles or wants to do so?
Can any Indian media ever represent India of all nations? well my answer to that question is a big fat no.

As for online personalities, are you serious? tell me BMD does andrew tate represent your country? how about bernie ecclestone? or jimmy saville? Does diddy represent the US? or epstein? Do all the right wing content creators in the UK represent the values that each and every citizen in the UK has?


ah yes India is the same as China in being nuetral but not so nuetral. Ofc.
Its almost like you forget the fact that for a very long period of time the so called west treated us like dogs that can be used an thrown away. Its almost like you forget 1971 or the debacle after the nuclear tests. Its almost like you forget which nation literally made my country beg for food and how the daughter of your president literally went and said "please daddy give them the food" and the reason why India went through the green revolution in the first place.

Im sorry if I dont particularly care for your moral bullshit. Two can play the same game.

India does not stand to gain anything significant from the russo-ukranian war. it loses sigificantly more than it gains. Whether you chose to believe that is upto you because you don't seem to respond to stats.
 
Now India condemns US attack on Iran even though it has literally murdered 30,000+ civilians, beaten women to death for not wearing a head-scarf and has Uranium enriched to 84%, as well as sponsoring Hezbollah and cluster bombing cities.

So I think it's pretty clear cut
There's no official condemnation from India.

As for me specifically, my condemnation was always on U.S.'s unilaterally escalating the conflict by targeting Iranian industry and desalination plants which will *censored* up the entire global economy when Iran retaliates, that is against the interest of India and rest of the world.

Another aspect of my condemnation was showing contempt of your repeated attempts to show U.S. as a morally superior side in this conflict, covering up the fact that this attack is not a morally initiated one, morals are a just a weaponized justification.

U.S. collapsed Iranian currency, this move again shows that U.S. doesn't give a shit about Iranian people, Iranian woman, their suffering, as long as U.S. can manufacture protest against the regime.
Same with no apologies for bombing a school in Iran killing 100+ children.

Same with threating to attack( and even actually attacking some) Iranian civil infra water treatment facilities etc

It all clearly shows U.S. doesn't give a shit about Iranian people, men, women, children, or their drinking water needs.

Clearly shows Propaganda about saving Iranian People from Evil regime is a weponisation of selective morals.



U.S. actions and behavior is not any less evil than the Iranian regime.

&, you being a evil peice of shit deliberately try to skip this part and selectively focus on just just regime's crimes against its people to justify U.S invasion and crimes against Iranian people.

& Its not evil Iranian regime threating to *Premptively* threatning to attack water treatment plants in gulf, Its U.S. that is *preemptively* threating that on Iran.

Same with Cuba, U.S. torturing Cuban men,women,children for decades using whatever economic leverage U.S. has because they dared to throw out U.S. supported dictator and installed a still authoritarian but relatively much better commie gov.

Same with U.S. allowing Isreal to genocide Palestinians.


I'll say it once again, regardless of whatever delusion you live in U.S. is not acting morally in any way whatsoever.


And unlike us Indians, who clearly & honestly stated we will remain neutral because these are not our conflicts and will focus on our interest.
You hypocrite Westerners always manufacture false moral justification when acting on your interests even when that action is evil & falsefully morally blackmail others to support your actions.

That's why you are a *censored*ing peice of shit, deliberately trying to project some twisted form of moral justification for attack on Iran on this forum while completely ignoring crimes U.S. is doing & Isreali genocide U.S. is supporting.








You mean like when Russia blew up a natal hospital and a supermarket?

Sure because the Kyiv regime aslo nerve gassed tens of thousands of civilians and invaded a smaller neighbour only 10 years prior... oh no wait, it didn't. :ROFLMAO:
I'm not any way whatsoever is justifying russian crimes, neither attempting tk show them as morally good.

You on the other hand is trying to whitewash U.S. actions, when they are not less evil than russia's.


Didn't happen, Iranian propaganda denied by both US and Israel.

**if they're complaining about a desalinization [sic] plant, we complain about the fact that they shouldn't be chopping babies' heads off**

This is what trump said, that's not denying the attack, that's justifying their crimes
by using crimes of the Iranian regimes.

Just more fuel to the truth, that U.S. is not acting any less evil than the evil Iranian regime.





Some sort of moral justification huh?
A *Weaponized* justification.

Again

U.S. is not saving Iranian People, by collapsing their currency( economic terrorisms), by bombing and threating to bomb civilian infra, water facilities( crimes against humanity).

& supporting genocide by Israel, doing economic genocide on Cubans doesn't really shows U.S. as a morally good side that care about protecting people.

And these are just current things.
 
India stands for much the same as China as regards Ukraine, pretending to be neutral, while not actually being neutral.
Whether India's neutral or not is for us to consider. Unlike you we don't go about preaching to others what their role ought to be .
As I've said before, neutrality isn't what's coming out of Indian media and 'online personalities'. Hell, some of the reporting isn't even accurate. In one article on YouTube Hindustan Times showed a Russian aircraft coming down after friendly fire and claimed a Russian shootdown of a Ukrainian jet.
If you find Indian media irksome we find Big Black C0ck downright dishonest. That's equivalence Paddy. And I'm not just referring to the war but in their overall coverage of India.

It's really fascinating to see british responses to our reaction to the war in Ukraine in the MSM or SM. A vast majority of them still seem to be living in 1926 instead of 2026.

They think they've the veto over India's choices . Why ? Coz in their mind it's still 1926 & India's still under the Raj. Arguably it's this same mentality & arrogance which led to Brexit & like Paddy here most have now realised their folly but in true british fashion can't bring themselves to accept it .

And I'm referring to the british here not ethnicities like the Paddys. The reason being you expect a certain degree of sophistication in thoughts words deeds etc from the british that you just can't expect from the Paddys.

I say so from experience not just from interacting or reading Paddy's posts here but from my experiences in the real world as opposed to the virtual world.

Which brings me to the psyche of in house Paddy. Paddy here like most other educated Paddys ought to be a subject of anthropological & sociological studies. Anthropologically & genetically Paddys were always the menials of Europe the way the Pashtuns are in Paxtan & the Middle East. They were built precisely for such a task which they perform exceptionally well as compared to most ethnicities in the world.

They've the physique for it & most importantly the aptitude for it . Education is not something they pursued for let's face it , they aren't the brightest of the ethnicities out there. Besides up until a century ago economics ensured not every Paddy could pursue higher education even if he so wanted to do so .

Post WW-2 UK rapidly overcame the reversal of fortunes & built up their society becoming progressive in the bargain. Ethical considerations dictated education should be free for all pun unintended which is how ethnicities like Paddy's got educated & was eligible for higher education.

Paddy here claims he's an engineer though his posts betray the mentality of a tradesman & therein lies the dilemma . Is it worthwhile to educate an ethnicity known for being menials while offering them full rights as a citizen including FoE , the right to vote etc ?

Ethically it may be the right thing to do but common sense tells us otherwise. You don't give a monkey a sword for the same reason you deny menials like Paddy equality. Some ethnicities just don't have it in them.

See ethnicities like the Jews emphasised education since millenia which is how they produced all those Nobel laureates . To them further education was a cake walk not so for Paddys. Look no further than MENSA . For starters you won't find a Paddy in there except as a janitor .

Now when you add conditioning which is what education media peer pressure etc are , critical thinking becomes a premium. While ethnicities like the Jews can be fully expected to make wise choices , for ethnicities like the Paddys it's an excruciatingly difficult task for they lack the grounding of the Jews who've been at it for centuries if not millenia.

Put another way a Jew will make for an extremely poor menial just as a Paddy would never qualify as an intellectual . Hence all that social conditioning from education , media peer pressure etc won't sway a Jew from thinking out something in a critical manner before arriving at a conclusion not so for a Paddy.

Hence Paddy here parrots pretty much what he's picked up from what he sees & hears on MSM , SM , discussions at O'Hara the tranny bar & pick up joint he frequents . He can't tell right from wrong any more than he can tell his elbow from his knee.

Hence anyone blowing their top at Paddy expecting a change in views will have better luck squeezing water from a stone. It's not that Paddy can't change his views , it's his incapacity to change his views in light of what I've put out that ought to be considered.

Just as civilised people know the difference between a mentally handicapped kid & a normal one , we ought to recognise such traits in people like Paddy & be gentle with him.

I do realise it can be extremely trying especially if you've a short fuse but kindness never hurt anyone. Besides ever since Paddys quit Paddyland to spread across the western world the collective IQ of the west has sharply dropped thanks to intermingling of species. Paddys you see have the largest gene inflow of the Neanderthals than any other ethnicity in the world.

Hence if you see what you think is stupidity from Trump he must've have Paddy ancestry just like 1/2 Anglo out there. In many ways Paddys would be responsible for the downfall of the western civilization just that they don't know so yet. It's like how the Spanish conquistadors unwittingly spread diseases in the Americas when they conquered it thus eliminating more than 60% of the population there since the native Indians there lacked immunity to such diseases .

Its only now that these facts have come to light just as the contribution of the Paddys in undermining western civilization will be investigated & recorded in a few centuries from now.
 
This is not confirmed yet. Merchant sailors are showing the presence of IN subs escorting commercial shipping. If these are Indian subs, then it is likely Kilo or Scorpene class SSKs. Likely operating out of Duqm port:


There are some unconfirmed reports that some of the Gulf crude that we managed to get out of the Hormuz strait has been transshipped to Japan. GoI is being tightlipped about this. It does make sense; Japan gets a lot of their crude needs from the Gulf. They don't buy from Russia due to political reasons. We are gobbling up Russian crude:


On jet fuel, diesel, petrol, kerosene etc. prices will fluctuate of course, but there is supply:


A lot of MSM journos are just making sh*t up. Sensationalism sells.

There is however a temporary issue with fertilizer supply. Especially DAP fertilizers. We were planning to buy these from Russia. But Russia has recently suspended the exports of fertilizers & some refined fuels. Some Russian refineries were hit by Ukraine recently. Russia has dispatched their Deputy PM to help smooth things over:
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One way of addressing the fertilizer issue would be use less DAP & more Urea based fertilizers. India produces a substantial amount of Urea. These Urea plant need gas that Russia is willing to supply. Also, we could start making a switch to more efficient Surfur coated Urea or nano-Urea.

Speaking of Sulfur, HPCL's Barmer refinery just got a Sulfur Recovery Unit (SRU). At this rate, this refinery may become the 2nd Indian refinery that can handle heavy Venezuelan crude:

 
Russia has recently suspended the exports of fertilizers

One way of addressing the fertilizer issue would be use less DAP & more Urea based fertilizers. India produces a substantial amount of Urea. These Urea plant need gas that Russia is willing to supply.

Russia is playing games.
They want India to fork over the moolah to build the Urea fertilizer JV in Russia.

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Indian fertilizer firms, including IPL, RCF, and NFL, are partnering with Russia's Uralchem Group to build a 1.8–2 million ton capacity urea plant in Russia. The joint venture, aimed at securing long-term fertilizer supply for India, involves a 50% stake for Indian firms (15% each, with a 5% stake for other partners), while Uralchem holds the rest.

The plant is set to receive ammonia — urea's key feedstock — from Russian supplier Togliattiazot, while the Indian firms will finance the project until the plant begins commercial operation
 
Long time ago. Only recently India supported Russian invasion of Ukraine because it made Ukrainian the only official national language, even though it gave up its nuclear weapons. Now India condemns US attack on Iran even though it has literally murdered 30,000+ civilians, beaten women to death for not wearing a head-scarf and has Uranium enriched to 84%, as well as sponsoring Hezbollah and cluster bombing cities.

So I think it's pretty clear cut.


You mean like when Russia blew up a natal hospital and a supermarket?

Sure because the Kyiv regime aslo nerve gassed tens of thousands of civilians and invaded a smaller neighbour only 10 years prior... oh no wait, it didn't. :ROFLMAO:


Didn't happen, Iranian propaganda denied by both US and Israel.


Electricity is used by factories for weapons production.

Some sort of moral justification huh?




Buddy why are you trying to convince us that the Iranian regime are a bunch of cloak wearing savages a fact that we already know? Doesn't change the fact ya'll have supported far worse savages around the world. Who's gonna answer for that? Murdering people by having them raped by dogs is something which is excusable because it was a long time ago? Disgusting. Own up to your mistakes and repent.

And when exactly did India openly state support for Russia?
 
@babablacksheep

Do you know how many times India features on American television? About once every 5 years -- either when there is a natural catastrophe, or when an airplane with an American goes down. Sorry if this is going to sound harsh, but no vanilla westerner in their right mind is looking to debate Indians on an online forum. You just don't picture into our everyday life - you're not even Mexicans to us. I myself am here to combat my depression as my country descends into Civil War 2.0 and my fat *censored* is too lazy to join a No Kings rally.

Some are here to build a catalog of Russian weapons. Others to hawk their own baguettes. And some indeed to push propaganda.

Something to ponder if you haven't come across the quote below by J.A. Bezmenov:



It's up to you if you want them to live rent free in your head.
Your own band of idiots who elected obese orange are the laughing stock of the entire world so believe me when I say we don't care in the least how we are seen by you.

After all, caring about the opinion of retards who lose entire AWACS on the GROUND to a country which doesn't even have an air force is foolish.
 
Buddy why are you trying to convince us that the Iranian regime are a bunch of cloak wearing savages a fact that we already know? Doesn't change the fact ya'll have supported far worse savages around the world. Who's gonna answer for that? Murdering people by having them raped by dogs is something which is excusable because it was a long time ago? Disgusting. Own up to your mistakes and repent.

And when exactly did India openly state support for Russia?
Support, deny, support, deny.
 
There's no official condemnation from India.

As for me specifically, my condemnation was always on U.S.'s unilaterally escalating the conflict by targeting Iranian industry and desalination plants which will *censored* up the entire global economy when Iran retaliates, that is against the interest of India and rest of the world.
They didn't though, that was just an Iranian claim. If the US was really doing that, Iran would have no drinking water at all right now.
Another aspect of my condemnation was showing contempt of your repeated attempts to show U.S. as a morally superior side in this conflict, covering up the fact that this attack is not a morally initiated one, morals are a just a weaponized justification.
What they hell does it require for moral justification in your book?
U.S. collapsed Iranian currency, this move again shows that U.S. doesn't give a shit about Iranian people, Iranian woman, their suffering, as long as U.S. can manufacture protest against the regime.
Same with no apologies for bombing a school in Iran killing 100+ children.

Same with threating to attack( and even actually attacking some) Iranian civil infra water treatment facilities etc

It all clearly shows U.S. doesn't give a shit about Iranian people, men, women, children, or their drinking water needs.

Clearly shows Propaganda about saving Iranian People from Evil regime is a weponisation of selective morals.
No it shows the regime doesn't care. They could have the sanctions removed at any point by abandoning Uranium enrichment to HEU levels.
U.S. actions and behavior is not any less evil than the Iranian regime.
:ROFLMAO: Last time US police executed 30,000+ protestors, go....
&, you being a evil peice of shit deliberately try to skip this part and selectively focus on just just regime's crimes against its people to justify U.S invasion and crimes against Iranian people.

& Its not evil Iranian regime threating to *Premptively* threatning to attack water treatment plants in gulf, Its U.S. that is *preemptively* threating that on Iran.
They've already hit one FFS.
Same with Cuba, U.S. torturing Cuban men,women,children for decades using whatever economic leverage U.S. has because they dared to throw out U.S. supported dictator and installed a still authoritarian but relatively much better commie gov.
Much better?

Same with U.S. allowing Isreal to genocide Palestinians.


I'll say it once again, regardless of whatever delusion you live in U.S. is not acting morally in any way whatsoever.
And unlike us Indians, who clearly & honestly stated we will remain neutral because these are not our conflicts and will focus on our interest.
You hypocrite Westerners always manufacture false moral justification when acting on your interests even when that action is evil & falsefully morally blackmail others to support your actions.

That's why you are a *censored*ing peice of shit, deliberately trying to project some twisted form of moral justification for attack on Iran on this forum while completely ignoring crimes U.S. is doing & Isreali genocide U.S. is supporting.
Hamas attenmpting to genocide Israelis and then using human shields. Both Hamas and Hezbollah supported by Iran, Houthis too. They'r eliterally the bane on the region.
I'm not any way whatsoever is justifying russian crimes, neither attempting tk show them as morally good.

You on the other hand is trying to whitewash U.S. actions, when they are not less evil than russia's.
**if they're complaining about a desalinization [sic] plant, we complain about the fact that they shouldn't be chopping babies' heads off**

This is what trump said, that's not denying the attack, that's justifying their crimes
by using crimes of the Iranian regimes.

Just more fuel to the truth, that U.S. is not acting any less evil than the evil Iranian regime.
They did deny it, but he also pointed out that the regime was doing worse anyway. Like i said. If the US was doing that, Iran would be without power or water already.
A *Weaponized* justification.

Again

U.S. is not saving Iranian People, by collapsing their currency( economic terrorisms), by bombing and threating to bomb civilian infra, water facilities( crimes against humanity).

& supporting genocide by Israel, doing economic genocide on Cubans doesn't really shows U.S. as a morally good side that care about protecting people.

And these are just current things.
Killing 30,000 of them isn't saving them either. :ROFLMAO:
yes because hindustan times, the extremely obviously pro russian channel, is now showing some BS it means the entirerity of India hopes ukraine goes to hell? If THE SUN or the DAILY MAIL put out an article or video or whatever saying everyone is India is a terrorist does that mean the entirity of the UK thinks everyone in India is a terrorist? answer me BMD does your media truly represent your nation? Does the fact that the BBC protected a known pedophile mean everyone in the UK protects pedophiles or wants to do so?
Can any Indian media ever represent India of all nations? well my answer to that question is a big fat no.

As for online personalities, are you serious? tell me BMD does andrew tate represent your country? how about bernie ecclestone? or jimmy saville? Does diddy represent the US? or epstein? Do all the right wing content creators in the UK represent the values that each and every citizen in the UK has?


ah yes India is the same as China in being nuetral but not so nuetral. Ofc.
Its almost like you forget the fact that for a very long period of time the so called west treated us like dogs that can be used an thrown away. Its almost like you forget 1971 or the debacle after the nuclear tests. Its almost like you forget which nation literally made my country beg for food and how the daughter of your president literally went and said "please daddy give them the food" and the reason why India went through the green revolution in the first place.

Im sorry if I dont particularly care for your moral bullshit. Two can play the same game.

India does not stand to gain anything significant from the russo-ukranian war. it loses sigificantly more than it gains. Whether you chose to believe that is upto you because you don't seem to respond to stats.
I speak of general themes, lots of Indians supporting Russia but none supporting Ukraine.
 
They didn't though, that was just an Iranian claim. If the US was really doing that, Iran would have no drinking water at all right now.

What they hell does it require for moral justification in your book?

No it shows the regime doesn't care. They could have the sanctions removed at any point by abandoning Uranium enrichment to HEU levels.

:ROFLMAO: Last time US police executed 30,000+ protestors, go....

They've already hit one FFS.

Much better?



Hamas attenmpting to genocide Israelis and then using human shields. Both Hamas and Hezbollah supported by Iran, Houthis too. They'r eliterally the bane on the region.


They did deny it, but he also pointed out that the regime was doing worse anyway. Like i said. If the US was doing that, Iran would be without power or water already.

Killing 30,000 of them isn't saving them either. :ROFLMAO:

I speak of general themes, lots of Indians supporting Russia but none supporting Ukraine.
US *censored* up of bombing Cambodia made the Khmer Rouge gain power and kill 2.5 million people. 2.5 million vs 30,000... supporting Pinochet deathtoll in the thousands, invading Iraq +100,000 killed...yeah the regime is savage to its own people but you guys export your savagery.

All of you are messed up beyond belief, you, the mullahs, the Chinese/Japanese. Bunch of savages clawing at each other and thinking you're the good guy lol. As poor and dirty as we are well at least we never maimed killed or invaded anyone else. Just do the rest of the world a favour and fight yourselves to the death.
 
US *censored* up of bombing Cambodia made the Khmer Rouge gain power and kill 2.5 million people. 2.5 million vs 30,000... supporting Pinochet deathtoll in the thousands, invading Iraq +100,000 killed...yeah the regime is savage to its own people but you guys export your savagery.

All of you are messed up beyond belief, you, the mullahs, the Chinese/Japanese. Bunch of savages clawing at each other and thinking you're the good guy lol. As poor and dirty as we are well at least we never maimed killed or invaded anyone else. Just do the rest of the world a favour and fight yourselves to the death.

On Twitter the consensus is that Europe is simply going to fade away and become extinct in a decade or so
 

Boots on the ground seems to have less of a possibility. They are looking at alternatives.
Israel basically helped the Iranians to keep the current form of governance.
The protests were at least dividing Iranians.
But after Israel attack and killing their main leadership, the Iranians united and have a common enemy.
On Twitter the consensus is that Europe is simply going to fade away and become extinct in a decade or so
Europeans are more concerned about saving their tax money from being burnt in a foreign war.
They rather spend it on own people, the people who pay that tax