S-400 'Triumf' News & Discussion

True.
What I am curious to know however is what is a S-400 squadron in Desert camo doing in the jungles of Assam.
Wild guess but perhaps its a unit on rotation from the Western front to cover the Chicken's Neck area.

Btw, there were reports recently that the IAF was buying multispectral camo nets and inflatable decoys for these units too.
 
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Pantsir doesn't brings anything to table, it will be more of burden, the gun doesn't work properly in Pantsir can't even detect & track small drones & low RCS target, in the new variant the gun is being replaced for more missile, now the new variants uses aesa radar, the 57E6/ 57E6-E missiles don't have active radar seekers or IIR seeker, nor the Russians are gonna move the production to India nor we gonna manufacture the 57E6/57E6-E
We have to depend on Russians for the supplies, who themselves are dependent on Chinese for the critical components, whereas qrsam also a mobile platform, has better aesa radar than Pantsir systems, have active radar seekers, has been through multiple trials, better missiles,
Akash ng is generation ahead of Pantsir, you can have your own SHORD system with Vshords, BEL Multi function radar, EO and a jammer on whap, if we need a gun based SHORD system against drones and missiles why Pantsir why not skyranger 30 or South Korean SHORD system?
 
The Defence Ministry will soon take up the case to clear the Indian Air Force proposal to buy the additional five squadrons of the Russian air defence missile systems, which will be deployed on both the eastern and western fronts, defence officials told ANI.


Thats $6-7 billion more. Few more squadrons makes sense not more that that. Trust DRDO build Kusha in next 5 years.
 
Before it was out anywhere, this is what I "revealed" back in October of last year, here: S-400 'Triumf' News & Discussion

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Looks like your boy got yet another of his prediction right;)

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It was "revealed" by proper journalists. Dont act like you have some inside source.

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Now, sit down and think about what prompted you to post this.
 
Before it was out anywhere, this is what I "revealed" back in October of last year, here: S-400 'Triumf' News & Discussion

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Looks like your boy got yet another of his prediction right;)

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Yeah, only got the timeframe off by 3 months.

2 too many squadrons in my opinion, directly eating into potential Kusha orders down the line. Plus, the remaining 2 squadrons from the original order is yet to be delivered.
 
Got the timeframe off by 3 months, not too shabby 😉

2 too many squadrons in my opinion, directly eating into potential Kusha orders down the line. Plus, the remaining 2 squadrons from the original order is yet to be delivered.
Exactly, this additional procurement shouldn't have an impact on the number of Kusha squadrons to be inducted.
 
Before it was out anywhere, this is what I "revealed" back in October of last year, here: S-400 'Triumf' News & Discussion

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Looks like your boy got yet another of his prediction right;)

@marich01, @randomradio, @vstol Jockey, @babablacksheep, @YoungWolf, @_Anonymous_, @Parthu, @Gautam, @Ankit Kumar, @nair, @Hydra, @RationalGuy, @Ironhide, @Aniruddha, @Shan, @ShiroBarks et al
Ever since PKS went to his reward there's a serious dearth of people who can predict the future as far as Indian defence goes.

Steno Shishir gives us news only a few days or weeks in advance , so he doesn't count .
 
Before it was out anywhere, this is what I "revealed" back in October of last year, here: S-400 'Triumf' News & Discussion

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Looks like your boy got yet another of his prediction right;)

@marich01, @randomradio, @vstol Jockey, @babablacksheep, @YoungWolf, @_Anonymous_, @Parthu, @Gautam, @Ankit Kumar, @nair, @Hydra, @RationalGuy, @Ironhide, @Aniruddha, @Shan, @ShiroBarks et al

Prediction in Oct 2025, eh?
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Got LCH and LCA Mk1A right too. Got 36 more Rafales wrong, but the actual number became 114.
 
Ever since PKS went to his reward there's a serious dearth of people who can predict the future as far as Indian defence goes.

Steno Shishir gives us news only a few days or weeks in advance , so he doesn't count .
It's not the only thing, if you may remember I also was the first person here to say that MKI will get GaN radar right from the first UPG. batch along with getting multiple other stuff spot on like our work on Photonics radar as @marich01 would testify.

PS: Prasun da is sorely missed though. Loved reading his blog.
Prediction in Oct 2025, eh?
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Got LCH and LCA Mk1A right too. Got 36 more Rafales wrong, but the actual number became 114.
If our previous debate, if you remember, I already told you that we are going gov-to-gov deal route with the French and MRFA is scrapped for good:)
 
The Defence Ministry will soon take up the case to clear the Indian Air Force proposal to buy the additional five squadrons of the Russian air defence missile systems, which will be deployed on both the eastern and western fronts, defence officials told ANI.


Thats $6-7 billion more. Few more squadrons makes sense not more that that. Trust DRDO build Kusha in next 5 years.
Kusha will take time for testing, mass production and operational deployment so it makes sense to go with some more S400. But imo, Kusha in several aspects especially in terms of the long range radar will be superior to the S400.

@randomradio @Rajput Lion @babablacksheep from what we know about Kusha how will its radar and kinematic performance compare to the latest version of HQ9? How will it compare to Patriot?
 
Kusha will take time for testing, mass production and operational deployment so it makes sense to go with some more S400. But imo, Kusha in several aspects especially in terms of the long range radar will be superior to the S400.

@randomradio @Rajput Lion @babablacksheep from what we know about Kusha how will its radar and kinematic performance compare to the latest version of HQ9? How will it compare to Patriot?

The MRSAMs land based MF-STAR radar already provides much better performance than the S-400s Big Bird search radar. Iirc, max range is 700km+

Plus it provides acquisition and fire control in one compact package.
 
We signed the deal with Russia in 2018, almost after eight years we yet to receive all the squadrons. If MOD going again for follow on orders, then i will say we have boiled potato inside the head.