India - United States Relations
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It is the most corrupt and shows that the system doesn't work and laws need to change
Slight correction, he can have a targeted tariff for 150 days, till congress can pass it, However congress won't
I am an all electric guy (*censored* BC Hydro and liberal green *censored*ers of Canada, srsly), so what do i know? I have heard people even use onion for cleaning grills so there is that. My kind of "grill" is a straight wrought iron bar that goes into an earthen hearth with meat and protein sticking in it. Thats easy enough to clean. That being said, apparently grill brushes are a thing. And people buy them. And Walmart stocks them. So I guess there is some kind of demand for them anyhoo.
Lemme put it in this way. Had this been China, it would have been trivial to find the right guys and toys. Had it been, India, I could get this done for any quantity of order. There is infinite supply for small shops working on any volume. America? Good luck.
Problem is, Americans have this weird kind of arrogance in believing their tools or wares will work everywhere. News flash, they dont. Look at Tesla bringing its stupid cars to India. Have you looked at their ground clearance? Or even cyber truck. Apart from one or two weirdo, there is not much market to this shit in India. Ford was the same. In India we DO NOT need bulldozers dressed as pessenger vehicles. PERIOD. There is a reason why Suzuki is sticking around in India after 30-40 years while ford and rest of american autos folded. Its called humility. A word so anti-americans that last person who said that in Ford boardroom was shot in his head with a NATO 5.56 round out of a AR-15. Because ford can not be bothered to customize their cars for India.
Americans makes tools. Then they go create problems for those tools to be used. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it does not.
I doubt you can fix American thinking in business... they are not going to be able to sell stuff in India the way they try to sell. Not in the consumer space.
Trouble is, there is such a thing called "over-capacity" when it comes to heat pumps/ACs. Americans do not notice it because they live in average 2500 sq ft homes. Guess rest of the world does not. I dont care how reliable your barrel is, if it is having overcapacity for my perfectly fine 1200 sqft shack, it is not going to work. Trouble is, American companies will rather kill themselves (with AR-15s no less and this time a Kaltec KSG too!) than to admit that may be they need a different model for that market.
And please! Mitsubishi is not "cheap". Its fukken only thing that works if you are in Alberta. Its so god damn efficient that it can suck warmth from outside even if it is snowing at -29 degree celcius. And do it while being still more efficient than running the current via nichrome. Its a problem that GE et al can not be bothered with. You know, Americanism, they can not afford to say they need a different approach. Even if most of the shit they assemble into unit comes from China no less. Even Lennox can not be bothered with it because America does not need it, so we do not make it. And who cares if rest of the world is not America.
Ultimately, it SHOULD NOT have mattered. But look at the squeeze Trump was putting, it seems it mattered. For even sectors which had no sense. May be he is a moron for all I care, but this squeeze was certainly not worth the juice.
Problem now for America is, the autos they make are not good fit for India (GM, Ford et al tried and failed, Tesla is about to learn that too). White goods made in America are garbage (no american TV, Washing machine, AC, refrigirator will be able to fit into the Indian environment saturated with choice from South Koreans, less degree Japanese, Some Indian brands and now increasingly Chinese). They are incompatiable, stupid, expensive and arrogantly pushed without any localization.
In defence sector, given how heavy handed American dealing with India has been, I doubt any big ticket items coming from American ANY time some. I do not want my fukken planes to stop flying because idiots in Washington can not supply spares. We all saw how well Tejas is doing with JUST ONE dependency on America. Rest assured, Indians have long memories. And there is no dearth of supplier for India in that sector.
FinTech products are out of question : Americans are behind India in that.
AI is one place where I see a lot of influx of American products, namely GPU, networking and servers for data centers. That being said, I think, AI in the present form is extremely crude (we are still using REAL numbered tensors for weights in ANNs representing knowledge...). How much will this compute edge remain or even be required once more optimal representations are found is something I do not know. Thankfully, most of these purchases will be out of direct investments by American companies. Indian companies still believe renting this compute capability is better than investing in it.
In industrial goods, America will have to compete with China or at times, American or European vendors depend upon Chinese suppliers directly. I remember one tunnel boring machine to be delivered to India for construction of High speed trains was delayed. In China no less. Because American vendor was making it in China. Most likely next time, Indians will just straight on engage with a singaporean firm directly who can deal with Chinese.
In semicons, India is mostly picking up processes that are at least 10 years older. And for good reason. Those are enough for most needs except for most modern GPUs. CPUs and memory that go into mobile or cutting edge server products. For rest, 10 - 15 years old nodes are absolutely fine. And Japanese and Koreans make ample machines for them. Also being joined by Chinese.
As far as Aviation goes, there are only two real big players. Airbus and Boeing. And India will need to work with both to avoid a supply crunch. Even as early as 2023, TATA et al were going to buy a lot of planes from Boeing. It was just repackaged to placate Trump.
They are going to an election, They aren't going to get reelected saying the tariffs that the US people pay is good,
They have already said no to trump on Canadian tariff
US House votes to overturn Trump's tariffs on Canada
Six Republican lawmakers joined Democrats to back a resolution that seeks to end the tariffs Trump imposed on Canada last year.
www.bbc.com
Let's hope for the best.They are going to an election, They aren't going to get reelected saying the tariffs that the US people pay is good,
They have already said no to trump on Canadian tariff
US House votes to overturn Trump's tariffs on Canada
Six Republican lawmakers joined Democrats to back a resolution that seeks to end the tariffs Trump imposed on Canada last year.
Me too, the clever people know that general tariffs are bad, but at least everyone will be on 10%, Australia has a 10%, so we won't change
The withdrawing from US and China will also continue, It's possible if India to play both sides with BRICS and the EU joining trans pacific partnership TPP, there are also other Asian nations looking to join the TPP
The middle powers are significant when added together, not only in free trade but supply chain integration and classed as local content, This really is a step change
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Congress = House + Senate.
To pass senate you need 60% seats. Which republicans dont have.
Soon they will loose House too. So he will become a lame duck president.
He can try to impose global tarrif for 150 days, let it lapse and again do it citing emergency. But even that will be challenged in court and shut down.
They have one more way under national security but it will require an investigation before imposing.
What will happen to Trump’s tariffs after supreme court verdict?
6-3 ruling against unilateral imposition of tariffs without congressional approval labelled a ‘disgrace’ by Trump
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Now you know why India and USA did not sign a deal as of yet and only a framework.
And now.... why Russian oil will keep on flowing into India, despite all the blah blah blah from USA.
Ifvhe extend tariff after the 150 days there is a possibility of impeachment i guess.Congress = House + Senate.
To pass senate you need 60% seats. Which republicans dont have.
Soon they will loose House too. So he will become a lame duck president.
He can try to impose global tarrif for 150 days, let it lapse and again do it citing emergency. But even that will be challenged in court and shut down.
They have one more way under national security but it will require an investigation before imposing.
What will happen to Trump’s tariffs after supreme court verdict?
6-3 ruling against unilateral imposition of tariffs without congressional approval labelled a ‘disgrace’ by Trumpwww.theguardian.com
Trump to hike global tariffs to 15% from 10%, 'effective immediately'
Trump also warned: "During the next short number of months, the Trump Administration will determine and issue the new and legally permissible Tariffs."
President Donald Trump on Saturday said he would increase global tariffs to 15% from 10%, one day after the Supreme Court struck down a broad swath of the president’s trade agenda.
In a Truth Social post, Trump said the new tariffs will be “effective immediately.” He also warned that additional levies would follow.
“I, as President of the United States of America, will be, effective immediately, raising the 10% Worldwide Tariff on Countries, many of which have been “ripping” the U.S. off for decades, without retribution (until I came along!), to the fully allowed, and legally tested, 15% level,” he wrote.
“During the next short number of months, the Trump Administration will determine and issue the new and legally permissible Tariffs,” he added.
They have already failed twice, that will never happen, The system stinks, They will keep their heads down till after they decide who is going to be nominated for the election, With 2 year elections, they are always in re-election mode
If he is legally allowed to reissue the 150 days, We are stuck with 15% till some sanity returns after the election, Providing they can get the 60% to veto proof anything Trump doesn't like
50% if they get rid of filibuster. Pretty much sure they will try to get rid of it, frustration is super high, every move gets blocked or dragged to the court.
As more time passes there will be more desperation , they are already installing their own ppl in every govt dept, only thing thats holding them back is the filibuster. If he loses the mid terms , he will obviously throw every thing under the bus. Wouldnt be surprised if the last year of his term is marked by more chaos and turmoil.
They wont. Individual Republican Senators will not be ready. Why? Removing filibuster = giving Democrats a nuclear bomb. The moment Democrats get majority in House and Senate, they will also start abusing it to no end, including impeaching Republican appointed judges, President, entire staff.
Its opening a pandora's box
They need filibuster convention to keep their changes in place. Otherwise once both sides start breaking it, it will beat the entire purpose.
I googled it and I was mistaken with the 60%, it takes 66,7% of both houses
"Threshold: The Constitution requires a "two-thirds vote of both Houses" to override a regular veto.
It gets messy with pocket veto
