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Asim Munir conferring one of Pakistan's highest Military Honours to General Michael Kurilla, Commander of U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) post our Ops
I read about that when it happened. The reason I asked what I asked is if I could read something more concrete, more factual, about US involvement against us during Sindoor, as per your theory.
 
I read about that when it happened. The reason I asked what I asked is if I could read something more concrete, more factual, about US involvement against us during Sindoor, as per your theory.
Absolutely factual data is presented in high-level defense briefings. Rest, you have to let your own rational sense to accept or reject whatever you read on internet.

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Before defence briefings, yours truly was the first person in all of internet to reveal how Chinese used their satellites against us:

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So you guys think that Asim Munir conferring one of Pakistan's highest Military Honours to General Michael Kurilla, Commander of U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) post our Ops was just a fluke or a coincidence for praising Pakistan's role in counter terrorisn, lol.

Our latest Ops just woke our military planners regarding true American intentions(and its dubious role in saving its stooge). 'Nuff said.
That's just the famed Pakistani craftiness that has kept it in business as a rentier state. They play on people's pride by giving them prestige in return for favours.

They followed this exact same playbook with Bill Gates not too long ago, giving him their highest civilian honor (Hilal-e-Imtiaz) but it didn't work as they'd have hoped. MSFT ended up exiting Pak anyway.

Kurilla may have played a role in facilitating Munir's meetings with top US officials including Trump himself.
 
That's just the famed Pakistani craftiness that has kept it in business as a rentier state. They play on people's pride by giving them prestige in return for favours.

They followed this exact same playbook with Bill Gates not too long ago, giving him their highest civilian honor (Hilal-e-Imtiaz) but it didn't work as they'd have hoped. MSFT ended up exiting Pak anyway.

Kurilla may have played a role in facilitating Munir's meetings with top US officials including Trump himself.
Far more than that;)
 
That's just the famed Pakistani craftiness that has kept it in business as a rentier state. They play on people's pride by giving them prestige in return for favours.

They followed this exact same playbook with Bill Gates not too long ago, giving him their highest civilian honor (Hilal-e-Imtiaz) but it didn't work as they'd have hoped. MSFT ended up exiting Pak anyway.

Kurilla may have played a role in facilitating Munir's meetings with top US officials including Trump himself.
There's a theory doing the rounds that Paxtan has been rehabilitated by the Trump administration not so much as a pinprick to India but more to take on the Mullahs in Iran .

Now this may not be in the form of overt action but Paxtan could be used as a base to launch covert action , pump in arms , used as a base for ISR activities , refuelling , drone warfare , etc .

The KSA Paxtan mutual security alliance is also part of the same game plan. Besides let's face it , this couldn't have taken place without US blessings.

If in the bargain India is disadvantaged , so be it - seems to be the US policy here. At best they'd try to moderate Paxtani behaviour , at worst they look the other way or offer covert help of a limited nature to needle us.

Do remember as long as the Chinese threat looms US can't afford to antagonise us beyond a point. And they won't. That includes Carrot Top. There's a method to his madness.

However if this reading is true it creates all sorts of problems for us since we absolutely cannot afford a 2 front axes when we are faced with a Chinese invasion across the LAC.

I believe this is the dilemma GoI is confronted with & the reason we didn't re start Operation Sindoor when the Red Fort blast occurred.

Our only hope is Fauji Foundation miscalculates once again & undertakes something spectacular which gives us Casus Belli . For let's face it , when hasn't Fauji Foundation overestimated itself & miscalculated ? @Jaymax
 
There's a theory doing the rounds that Paxtan has been rehabilitated by the Trump administration not so much as a pinprick to India but more to take on the Mullahs in Iran .
The US Deep State is already at work engineering a social revolution in Iran. Pehlavi, the exiled Iranian royal, was in the WH as Trump's guest a while ago.

A bloodless coup/regime change fronted by BD style 'student activists' might suit DCs interests better at this point.

MBS and the Qataris are reportedly not in favor of a military operation against Iran. A day or two ago, the US reportedly called off an air strike at the last minute on advice from the Arabs.

Pak is going out on a limb to get into Trump's good books but it could have to pay a heavy price for this.

Iran has publicly called out Pak for supporting the US against it. You can expect them to target Pak airbases in the event of US ac, drones operating from there.

The KSA Paxtan mutual security alliance is also part of the same game plan. Besides let's face it , this couldn't have taken place without US blessings.
Imo, the formal military alliance was to just to reassure Pak after the bruising received during Op Sindoor.

The Saudis gain nothing from it. Fauji Foundation is at their beck and call anyway. None of the GCC countries are in any mood to fight after Libya and Syria. Not least with India.

Do remember as long as the Chinese threat looms US can't afford to antagonise us beyond a point. And they won't. That includes Carrot Top. There's a method to his madness.

However if this reading is true it creates all sorts of problems for us since we absolutely cannot afford a 2 front axes when we are faced with a Chinese invasion across the LAC.
The latest US Natl Security Strategy shows that US strategic priorities are changing.

Trump's refusal to tariff China for continued oil purchases from Russia shows that he doesn't want to antagonize Beijing even while targeting its 'natural partner' next door. A G2 power-sharing structure may have already been agreed between the two.

There's even speculation Trump might leave Taiwan to fend for itself after relocating its semiconductor industry to the US in a few years time.
 
The US Deep State is already at work engineering a social revolution in Iran. Pehlavi, the exiled Iranian royal, was in the WH as Trump's guest a while ago.

A bloodless coup/regime change fronted by BD style 'student activists' might suit DCs interests better at this point.
Not possible . That's what I was trying to highlight in the other forum ever since these protests broke out in Iran.

The Mullah Regime is much too firmly entrenched in Iran. Moreover there's no organized resistance to it . That's what all totalitarian regimes ensure first.

The systematic destruction of all dissent against it & prevention of the growth of any organised resistance.

Thus, it's very rare for such a regime to be ousted in a single attempt. You have to continually chip through. Iran would need a few more such attempts like the kind we're seeing followed by external intervention to deal the death blow to the regime there.

The good news is that's where Iran is headed. In all likelihood you'd see a prolonged civil war there followed by completely abjuration of Islam by the majority there at least among the younger generation.

The bad news from our PoV is a massive spike in oil prices & sky high escalation in commodity prices as & when that happens apart from a paucity of availability of oil & gas.
MBS and the Qataris are reportedly not in favor of a military operation against Iran. A day or two ago, the US reportedly called off an air strike at the last minute on advice from the Arabs.
That's coz KSA is already facing enormous debt problems. The last thing it needs is the ME going up in flames . If Iran goes down the Mullahs there will ensure they take as many down as possible in the region beginning with KSA.
Pak is going out on a limb to get into Trump's good books but it could have to pay a heavy price for this.
I sincerely hope it ignites the Shi'a Sunni problem once again like it was in the 80s & 90s.
Iran has publicly called out Pak for supporting the US against it. You can expect them to target Pak airbases in the event of US ac, drones operating from there.
Possibly. Let's hope they do manage to take out as many assets of the PAF as they can. Makes our job easier.
Imo, the formal military alliance was to just to reassure Pak after the bruising received during Op Sindoor.
Nope. It was to secure KSA against any misadventure by Iran. KSA isn't going to come to Paxtan's rescue if the latter gets into a war with either Iran or India. They'd be on their own.
The Saudis gain nothing from it. Fauji Foundation is at their beck and call anyway. None of the GCC countries are in any mood to fight after Libya and Syria. Not least with India.

The latest US Natl Security Strategy shows that US strategic priorities are changing.

Trump's refusal to tariff China for continued oil purchases from Russia shows that he doesn't want to antagonize Beijing even while targeting its 'natural partner' next door. A G2 power-sharing structure may have already been agreed between the two.

There's even speculation Trump might leave Taiwan to fend for itself after relocating its semiconductor industry to the US in a few years time.
If that's the case please explain how's it the Trump administration is sanitizing the American continent from Chinese & Russian influence. That's what the operation in Venezuela was all about apart from securing their oil.

That's also the reason the US toppled SHW in BD & you saw the revolution in Nepal. That's also the reason you saw Thailand go to war against Cambodia over a few sq kms of land on the border. Cambodia is hosting one of the largest naval bases for PLAN in the region.

Make no mistake , Trump is preparing the ground by isolating all of China's allies one by one. You can see the outreach to Paxtan as part of the same strategy coupled with their usefulness against Iran.

That G2 arrangement is a temporary truce. Both the US & China are aware of the game plan here. Besides there can never be any understanding between the two for their goals are fundamentally at opposition to each other.

Taiwan is only a symptom of the larger problem dogging this relationship but the most important one. If Taiwan falls it's a mortal blow to US hegemony around the world beginning with Asia. In fact it's the beginning of the end of Pax Americana.

Every nation beginning with those on China's periphery would have to acknowledge China's overlordship beginning with SEA followed by countries like Japan RoK etc. Even we'd have to reach accommodation with the Chinese.
 
Did India silently retaliate to Trump's tariffs by taxing US pulses?

GoI is steadily building counter pressure in the trade negotiation with US:



Serious amount of domestic trans-shipment of Russian crude is happening between Indian refiners:


These things are probably going to speed up after trade deal with EU is signed.
 
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So you guys think that Asim Munir conferring one of Pakistan's highest Military Honours to General Michael Kurilla, Commander of U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) post our Ops was just a fluke or a coincidence for praising Pakistan's role in counter terrorisn, lol.

Our latest Ops just woke our military planners regarding true American intentions(and its dubious role in saving its stooge). 'Nuff said.

Pakistan has whored their nation to Centcom for decades making it one of the most powerful commands in the US military. More equal than equal - just search for Centcom memes. In return Centcom has indirectly subsidized the off-shore retirement properties of the Pak dictators by keeping Pakistan relevant. Both have handsomely benefitted from this arrangement.
 
My post "The US isn't going to take sides, they want to de-escalate and make money" was shifted from another thread, where you were saying that the US was siding with Pakistan
so it has lost context here
USA always takes one side; that side is its own side and the side that confirms the sustainment of American global hegemony. It is always about American interests for them. So, they have always chosen a vassal ruled by proxy military over a legit democracy like India 'cause India doesn't toe their line. We walk our own path and Uncle Sam doesn't like it.

I am telling you guys that US covert help during our ops to Pakistan was substantial. That's why Pak, as a token of gratitude, conferred US CENTCOM head with one of their highest military honours. It's like an open secret and since you're an Aussie, I get that you don't agree with me and think USA is neutral between India and Pakistan. But the surprise is that my compatriots don't believe something which is so obvious.
 
I believe this is the dilemma GoI is confronted with & the reason we didn't re start Operation Sindoor when the Red Fort blast occurred.
There is minimal diplomatic support for India right now. Between tensions with Unkil, fatigue in Europe, a tattered Russia there is no room for India
Our only hope is Fauji Foundation miscalculates once again & undertakes something spectacular which gives us Casus Belli . For let's face it , when hasn't Fauji Foundation overestimated itself & miscalculated ? @Jaymax
When soldiers become politicians businessmen and worse pimps, soldiering takes a back seat.

Beneath the surface there is a crazy power struggle going on. It is now fundoos vs the rest. If the fundoos prevail you will get your wish.
 
The Mullah Regime is much too firmly entrenched in Iran. Moreover there's no organized resistance to it . That's what all totalitarian regimes ensure first.

The systematic destruction of all dissent against it & prevention of the growth of any organised resistance.

Thus, it's very rare for such a regime to be ousted in a single attempt. You have to continually chip through. Iran would need a few more such attempts like the kind we're seeing followed by external intervention to deal the death blow to the regime there.
There is a huge Iranian diaspora in the US, (people like popular podcaster PBD) who are working to overthrow the current regime through internet/mass media channels. Many of these guys are Xtian fundamentalists interested in civilizational revival.

It's no coincidence that they are Trump supporters. (Trump is playing into their hands by authorizing strikes in placing like Nigeria to avenge the killing of Xtians by outfits like ISIS/Boko Haram.)

DS funded 'Arab Spring' campaigns have successfully shifted public opinion in many ME countries over the years and the same strategy is at work here.

In nay case, as long as Iran doesn't obtain a nuke weapon, both Israel and GCC wouldn't be interested in all-out war, imo.

If that's the case please explain how's it the Trump administration is sanitizing the American continent from Chinese & Russian influence. That's what the operation in Venezuela was all about apart from securing their oil.

That's also the reason the US toppled SHW in BD & you saw the revolution in Nepal. That's also the reason you saw Thailand go to war against Cambodia over a few sq kms of land on the border. Cambodia is hosting one of the largest naval bases for PLAN in the region.
I think the tipping point for Trump was Venezuela applying for BRICS membership.

From Brazil to RSA, he has tried every trick in the book (including election interference) to trigger regime change. The goal is to stop the de-dollarization movement in its tracks.

The US is already unnerved by Chinese export controls on REE and wants to secure supplies (O&G included) for itself.

Make no mistake , Trump is preparing the ground by isolating all of China's allies one by one. You can see the outreach to Paxtan as part of the same strategy coupled with their usefulness against Iran.
US seems to have re-assessed its strategy based on Chinese growing military strength and its own weaknesses, especially wrt defending Taiwan.

The USN is unable to build new ships and subs at a fast enough rate to meet their commitments to allies across the world.

The new US DefSec Pete Hegseth is seemingly focusing on rebuilding key mfg capabilities (icebreakers, for example) before taking on the PLA.

Trump is more willing to sell weapons to TW than prev administrations. But he may not have the stomach to risk US lives once TSMC and other tech suppliers are secured.
 
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There is a huge Iranian diaspora in the US, (people like popular podcaster PBD) who are working to overthrow the current regime through internet/mass media channels. Many of these guys are Xtian fundamentalists interested in civilizational revival.

It's no coincidence that they are Trump supporters. (Trump is playing into their hands by authorizing strikes in placing like Nigeria to avenge the killing of Xtians by outfits like ISIS/Boko Haram.)

DS funded 'Arab Spring' campaigns have successfully shifted public opinion in many ME countries over the years and the same strategy is at work here.

In nay case, as long as Iran doesn't obtain a nuke weapon, both Israel and GCC wouldn't be interested in all-out war, imo.
It's gone beyond Iran's attempts to obtain a N weapon now. Unlike how we or our security managers think , conventional wisdom holds that when your enemy is down you deal the killer blow not give him time to recover.

See the US + Israel's attempts as part of this playbook.
I think the tipping point for Trump was Venezuela applying for BRICS membership.
The goal is to restore the Monroe doctrine without too much military exposure meaning no boots on the ground .

He seems allergic to extensive US military involvement. To that extent Trump's bark is worse than his bite.

Trump still hasn't guaranteed the US gets to take over Venezuelan oil. Then again as I've pointed out before , it's early days yet.
From Brazil to RSA, he has tried every trick in the book (including election interference) to trigger regime change. The goal is to stop the de-dollarization movement in its tracks.

The US is already unnerved by Chinese export controls on REE and wants to secure supplies (O&G included) for itself.

Yup. Pax Silica . Coercing Greenland to allow REE mining & refinement besides basing US armed forces & assets are from this playbook. He's just feigning invasion to get the aforementioned deal.

Not sure it's working as the Europeans feel betrayed & are reacting in ways Dolund didn't think possible. So what does he do ? Why , he doubles down on the threat & tariffs those who're opposed to US action.
US seems to have re-assessed its strategy based on Chinese growing military strength and its own weaknesses, especially wrt defending Taiwan.

The USN is unable to build new ships and subs at a fast enough rate to meet their commitments to allies across the world.

The new US DefSec Pete Hegseth is seemingly focusing on rebuilding key mfg capabilities (icebreakers, for example) before taking on the PLA.

Trump is more willing to sell weapons to TW than prev administrations. But he may not have the stomach to risk US lives once TSMC and other tech suppliers are secured.
Let's wait & see how things pan out . I've always maintained & still do China'd embark on its Taiwan campaign once it's military modernization cum upgradation plus theatre ization is complete. That's due in 2027-28 . Add a year or two as buffer.

Let me stick my neck out on one more prediction. I don't see Trump completing his term. He's opened up way too many fronts internally & externally.

He'd either be impeached or assassinated. There's no way Deep State is going to tolerate a retreat from core principals like defending Taiwan or even a G2 arrangement .

Not that it's a long term solution but it's deeply offensive to Anglo Saxon pride to grant parity to the Slavic barbarians earlier last century or the gooks in this case. The DS may pretend they're not racist but their world view is definitely governed by racism. It's hard wired into them.

Apart from maintaining their economic hegemony that's what drove them to sabotage the Japanese economy thru the Plaza Accord.

Further , it's taken them nearly a millenium to see the Jews as humans to be treated as equals & they still haven't quite managed that.

Look at MAGA's shenanigans . This unwashed lot are just mouthing in public what many Amerimutts of European descent think & talk behind closed doors.

If you think it's a Republican thing or more specifically a Trump phenomenon , the Sh!tlibs are even more desperate for Jewish blood & most if not all of them are Democrats , as sweetie'd testify . Ja ? @Innominate