Indian Space Program: News & Discussions
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Launch failures happen. What is of concern is the lack of making the FAC reports public for NVS-02 and EOS-09.
The Indian public must demand the FAC report be made public for EOS-N1. If the new chairman of ISRO fails to do so, he is a babu through and through, unworthy of leading this organization.
Let’s not swing from one extreme to the other. Space missions are incredibly complex and rocket science isn’t error-free anywhere in the world. If mistakes were made, of course someone or somebody should be held accountable. But jumping straight to doom-and-gloom narratives is an overreaction. The problem is lack of transparency by ISRO..
Jumping the gun is after first failure.
Space launches to Low Earth Orbit (LEO) are not as difficult today. There are at least 5 private companies in China alone that are conducting these launches. Once a vehicle has been proven, it is extremely rare to experience such failures.
Just to clarify when I said we should not swing from one extreme to another I meant jumping from "Jai Ho" to "Sabotage".
Anyways while I mostly agree with your assessment that LEO launches have become a lot easier. At the end it still an engineering problem, something could always go wrong. Even Falcon-9 had failed a few times after consecutive success within a short time window. The main problem here is less about the failure but more about how the failure has been handled, there is an utter lack of transparency for it in recent times as many others have already expressed...
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No, two back to back PSLV, rest other launch vehicles,
The problem is ISRO ain't being transparent about the failures,
You can't afford back to back strategic missiles failures, there has to be some accountability
Another question has ISRO not released any FAC reports for other failures aside from C61 failure?
1sr, shift all satellite launch missions to GSLV-MK2 and MK3, and launch all satellites once with Mk2 and MK3. GOD PSLV was the safest launch vehicle with a solid history of success. The issue with ISRO is the launch frequency... they only send 5 satellites in 2025. This is what happens when you receive a monthly salary from the government vs the private sector, you avoid to do more work and no fear of layoff. Once our private sector becomes self-sufficient, ISRO will definitely out of work.
SpaceX is using Falcon 9 for everything. you need to make your load plan. There is no advantage of PSLV, if you are using once or twice in a year.
PSLV is much cheaper to manufacture and use. There is a huge difference of budget here my friend. And what you want in NGLV not GSLV. When a rocket gets used more naturally, you will find more problems with it. PSLV still has very few failures, with score of 59/64 successful launches. If GSLV gets used more you will see similar trend with it too.
They haven't released the C61 report either.
Even the video attributing it to "slight manufacturing error" by Dr. A. Rajarajan (Director, VSSC) is now made private.
youtube (dot) com/watch?v=VJ8qm0SOOmY&t=2290s
Everything is fine but where is the execution? Where SCE200 engine ? When it’s going to be integrate with the gslv launch vehicle. They are only concentrating on gaganyan program. NGLV will be same as previous program another 15 to 20 years. Its a retirement plan.
. Lol for private sector to reach even 10% of what ISRO is now it will take another decade at least. They're struggling to make rockets that will carry 500 kg to LEO and ISRO can now do 10,000 tonnes!!!! Where is the competition? Its like saying Brazil or Iran will catch up to India in space. It will take any private sector company 15 years or more alone to make a reliable cryogenic engine for a rocket like GSVL. Unless they poach retired ISRO people and are backed by billionaires or millionaires with cash to fund the development of the thing. Please think before you make big statements like a typical Indian with no basis on sound analysis. SpaceX overtook NASA and ULA in launch capability because NASA's SLS was languishing and it literally had no means to launch anything whatsoever and ULA was a typical boring defence cabal led by Boeing and others so theUS government poured billions to SpaceX and many former NASA ULA ppl joined SpaceX. Meanwhile here ISRO has a full spectrum of capabilities and a full range of launch vehicles and the scientists sitting at those posts comfortably with their perks and what not would go to some new startup for what reason except when they retire and go to kill time.
I have a feeling that their smug confidence in PSLV due to its historic reliability has made them complacent. Otherwise if it was a organization wide culture issue perhaps the other missions on GSLV would too have not succeeded. Time to rap their knuckles and see what's truly going on especially the team responsible for PSLV.
In ten years, I have my doubts that ISRO will be launching NGLV. There's no need to compare the Indian private sector with that of Iran and Brazil. What matters is the manufacturing capabilities of the country and the knowledge base available. Indian private firms can access X ISRO scientists and the current ISRO experts in liquid propulsion by offering attractive incentives, and the Indian government is unlikely to object. The main challenges will be the time required for testing and securing funding. However, once they successfully launch their first satellite, their growth will grow exponentially. Only time will tell.
SpaceX overtook NASA and ULA in launch capability because NASA's SLS was languishing and it literally had no means to launch anything whatsoever and ULA was a typical boring defence cabal led by Boeing and others so theUS government poured billions to SpaceX and many former NASA ULA ppl joined SpaceX. Meanwhile here ISRO has a full spectrum of capabilities and a full range of launch vehicles and the scientists sitting at those posts comfortably with their perks and what not would go to some new startup for what reason except when they retire and go to kill time.
PSLV failures: Ajit Doval visits VSSC, holds meeting with Director
Ajit Doval visits VSSC to address recent PSLV mission failures and meet with ISRO officials for analysis discussions.
National Security Advisor Ajit Doval had paid a visit to the Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre (VSSC) here last week, reportedly in connection with the January 12 failure of the Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle C-62 (PSLV-C62) mission.
According to VSSC sources, Mr. Doval had a meeting with VSSC Director A. Rajarajan and the Deputy Directors during his visit. The visit assumes significance given the back-to-back failures of PSLV missions on May 18, 2025, and January 12, 2026.