Operation Sindoor: Aftermath

[_Anonymous_]

Minor update - I m of the opinion Munir is already in the process of trying something. The recent political military and economic factors have helped shape his final decision. The root is in 2019, with India's growing capabilities that invalidate Pakistan's nuclear deterrence contributing to his decision. The tipping point IMO is water. The IWT moves, coupled with PakJab flooding this year is the final straw.

Munir knows only a PR bonanza will give him the bonafides he needs to right course and prevent disintegration of Pakistan. He needs a PR win that gives him the capital to make the changes he wants.

You give not only him but Paxtanis too much credit. If they were capable of thinking that far ahead they wouldn't be where they are now .

@_Anonymous_ - The disintegration of Pakistan is a real possibility now, and while you disagree I again put forward the idea that instead of a collapse, a controlled implosion is the way to go. A bit akin to the USSR. A mega shock in the field, 1-2 provinces leave, Nuclear assets secured and removed. The remainder shell staying under Fauj ki rehbari.

Yes but things in the USSR vis a vis a controlled implosion weren't planned out . It just happened. Similarly Munira tried to establish his credentials apart from a lot of other motives with Pahalgam & the aftermath.

Probably succeeded too , to an extent. However the latest move will face severe backlash with most of which coming from his own Fauji Foundation.

What's he going to do to boost his reputation among the rank & file apart from the *censored* awaam ? Past experiences show it has always been needling India & this isn't a Munira speciality , it's been true of all his predecessors.

Everyone gets what they want. The successor states have elements of state security leftover with chances of rapid progression for the remaining personnel makes policing a viable option. Everyone gets a bone to chew.

That should've been in the normal course of things. However with Munira around , he's actually accelerating the process , ie the implosion , not the way you think it'd unfold but the messy way things like this normally happen .

 

[FalconSlayers]

It's been more than half a year and they still haven't fixed the "minor" damage.
Everything inside, F-16s, spare parts, spare engines, repair equipment and tools, and the structure itself got written off, crippling the maintenance and availability of the remaining jets for months. Oh and the Air Traffic Control tower too.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1989626981638611332

 

[Hydra]

'Hope no Operation Sindoor happens, nothing came out of it': Farooq Abdullah after Nowgam blast

The former Jammu and Kashmir CM said that the manner in which the explosive material was dealt with by local authorities in Nowgam was “our mistake".| India News

www.hindustantimes.com

If you analyse things in different way, Pakistan is the bighest earner in post sindoor days. Yeas they got hit badly, but
1. Immediately started getting loan.
2. A pak general become Field marshal and made even to white house multiple times.
3.Pak started getting weapon from US.
4. Pak even closed a defense & security deal with KSA.
5.US direct intervention on indo pak scenarios is a reality now onwards, we restrained from blaming pak for redfort blast is clearly due to US pressure.
6. Pak ecenomy started getting some sort of relief.

On other hand, our
1) PM un officially started skipping international even where trump's presense.
2)50% Tariff on indian goods.
3) Public harassment from US side on aircraft toll, yeas he didn't mention the origin of that aircraft. But its painted as indian aircraft by pak and we failed to point that remarks towards pak.
4) Trump even claimed that if he wants he can end the careers of our pm, no dingle word from outside.

 

[Sathya]

'Hope no Operation Sindoor happens, nothing came out of it': Farooq Abdullah after Nowgam blast

The former Jammu and Kashmir CM said that the manner in which the explosive material was dealt with by local authorities in Nowgam was “our mistake".| India News

www.hindustantimes.com

If you analyse things in different way, Pakistan is the bighest earner in post sindoor days. Yeas they got hit badly, but
1. Immediately started getting loan.
2. A pak general become Field marshal and made even to white house multiple times.
3.Pak started getting weapon from US.
4. Pak even closed a defense & security deal with KSA.
5.US direct intervention on indo pak scenarios is a reality now onwards, we restrained from blaming pak for redfort blast is clearly due to US pressure.
6. Pak ecenomy started getting some sort of relief.

On other hand, our
1) PM un officially started skipping international even where trump's presense.
2)50% Tariff on indian goods.
3) Public harassment from US side on aircraft toll, yeas he didn't mention the origin of that aircraft. But its painted as indian aircraft by pak and we failed to point that remarks towards pak.
4) Trump even claimed that if he wants he can end the careers of our pm, no dingle word from outside.

PAk had to get loans for all the losses ..

Imagine Trump saying 7 aircrafts lost and pak had to lie it's India s loss and yet kiss his axs..
Oh man..

India got F404 deal.. and looking for 80% ToT in F 414.. quite different from what pak can get.

Modi standing upto Trump even if it's temporary.. still better than carrying a suitcase of ore to mortgage / con.

 

[safriz]

PAk had to get loans for all the losses ..

Imagine Trump saying 7 aircrafts lost and pak had to lie it's India s loss and yet kiss his axs..
Oh man..

India got F404 deal.. and looking for 80% ToT in F 414.. quite different from what pak can get.

Modi standing upto Trump even if it's temporary.. still better than carrying a suitcase of ore to mortgage / con.

Post a picture or video of any Pakistani crash ?
You guys make fun of Indian jets shot down by Pakistan, pictures and videos being on social media.
But videos or pictures of the so called Pakistani jets shot down by india is not even on social media.

 

[Subgradewalker]

Post a picture or video of any Pakistani crash ?
You guys make fun of Indian jets shot down by Pakistan, pictures and videos being on social media.
But videos or pictures of the so called Pakistani jets shot down by india is not even on social media.

How's everything inside the PA? Munir dandy?

 

[Subgradewalker]

'Hope no Operation Sindoor happens, nothing came out of it': Farooq Abdullah after Nowgam blast

The former Jammu and Kashmir CM said that the manner in which the explosive material was dealt with by local authorities in Nowgam was “our mistake".| India News

www.hindustantimes.com

If you analyse things in different way, Pakistan is the bighest earner in post sindoor days. Yeas they got hit badly, but
1. Immediately started getting loan.
2. A pak general become Field marshal and made even to white house multiple times.
3.Pak started getting weapon from US.
4. Pak even closed a defense & security deal with KSA.
5.US direct intervention on indo pak scenarios is a reality now onwards, we restrained from blaming pak for redfort blast is clearly due to US pressure.
6. Pak ecenomy started getting some sort of relief.

On other hand, our
1) PM un officially started skipping international even where trump's presense.
2)50% Tariff on indian goods.
3) Public harassment from US side on aircraft toll, yeas he didn't mention the origin of that aircraft. But its painted as indian aircraft by pak and we failed to point that remarks towards pak.
4) Trump even claimed that if he wants he can end the careers of our pm, no dingle word from outside.

Keep this for twitter and reel audience. Your manipulated narrative won't work here. Cause we actually follow things and form opinions of our own.

We can Think , don't need a influenzaaa cherry picking , edit and serving it to gullible. It's not your cup of tea. I get it. It takes free mind to discern things beyond its all on SM.


FO.

 

[Hydra]

PAk had to get loans for all the losses ..

Imagine Trump saying 7 aircrafts lost and pak had to lie it's India s loss and yet kiss his axs..
Oh man..

India got F404 deal.. and looking for 80% ToT in F 414.. quite different from what pak can get.

Modi standing upto Trump even if it's temporary.. still better than carrying a suitcase of ore to mortgage / con.

Forgot to add that Pakistan, a well known terrorist heaven country now a vice chair man of UN anti terrorism committee. Can you even comprehent what sort of diplomatic victory it is for pak? And its implications on India?

FYI ge engine deal wass goong on since ages and its out come hase nothing to do with op sindoor.

Regarding ores, its a thing meant to be exported from one country to other just like we exporting iron ore. Problem is US was ready to deal with pak for ore now.

Pak had losses tge battle, but it give a grat momentum to pak on diplomatic front and narrarion. We won the battle but lost in international diplomatic arena.

 

[redpanda]

Forgot to add that Pakistan, a well known terrorist heaven country now a vice chair man of UN anti terrorism committee. Can you even comprehent what sort of diplomatic victory it is for pak? And its implications on India?

FYI ge engine deal wass goong on since ages and its out come hase nothing to do with op sindoor.

Regarding ores, its a thing meant to be exported from one country to other just like we exporting iron ore. Problem is US was ready to deal with pak for ore now.

Pak had losses tge battle, but it give a grat momentum to pak on diplomatic front and narrarion. We won the battle but lost in international diplomatic arena.

Dude them getting some UN chair is not some huge thing. It's rotational. There have been many questionable countries that have been there. At the end UN is a toothless organisation.

 

[Sathya]

Post a picture or video of any Pakistani crash ?
You guys make fun of Indian jets shot down by Pakistan, pictures and videos being on social media.
But videos or pictures of the so called Pakistani jets shot down by india is not even on social media.

tell.me why did Dassault share price increased and Chinese company share price fell post Sindhoor..

Tell me why India still in the process of getting more Rafales ? But not PAF getting more J10 .

Tell me why PaF wanted Stealth fighter?

Tell why u ditched Chinese and went behind Trump ?

 

[Sathya]

Forgot to add that Pakistan, a well known terrorist heaven country now a vice chair man of UN anti terrorism committee. Can you even comprehent what sort of diplomatic victory it is for pak? And its implications on India?

FYI ge engine deal wass goong on since ages and its out come hase nothing to do with op sindoor.

Regarding ores, its a thing meant to be exported from one country to other just like we exporting iron ore. Problem is US was ready to deal with pak for ore now.

Pak had losses tge battle, but it give a grat momentum to pak on diplomatic front and narrarion. We won the battle but lost in international diplomatic arena.

What weapons did US give pak?
After all the bonhomie, what did Pak receive ?

Which country will send Army chief with suitcase of ores ? Did he think he own every sector in Pak ? I guess he is..

Pak could only cheat their own Citizens..u fell for it ..

 

[Subgradewalker]

What weapons did US give pak?
After all the bonhomie, what did Pak receive ?

Which country will send Army chief with suitcase of ores ? Did he think he own every sector in Pak ? I guess he is..

Pak could only cheat their own Citizens..u fell for it ..

Is there any verification on people are from where they say they are in this forum?

 

[Sathya]

Is there any verification on people are from where they say they are in this forum?

Some time in the past someone said he is not from India.

 

[Shan]

Folks are taking Farooq Abdullah seriously. Farooq, the great nationalist and patriot. Totally does not have a soft corner for the Pakistanis. It is best to ignore his statements when it comes to anything remotely related to national interests.

 

[Aniruddha]

Some time in the past someone said he is not from India.

People are far too civil on this forum, if this Hydra chap was on the other forum the members would rail him like no tomorrow.

 

[Hydra]

People are far too civil on this forum, if this Hydra chap was on the other forum the members would rail him like no tomorrow.

I was in peedeef, left that forum out of shame the day they shows abhinandan. No, this forum is worse than peedeef on different voice.

 

[Jaymax]

What was being hushed up is now more and more in the open.

Diplomacy was bungled post Pahalgam

Munir as a soldier might be hopeless but as a politician he is top tier.

He got his behind handed to him, yet got promoted. Got Trump on his side and is now hobnobbing with Arabs on Gaza peace plans.

This is by selling the country some might say - the same country has been sold 5-6 times over.

Meanwhile our side spent 6 months saying Sindoor is on and we ll treat every terror attack like an act of war.

When the time came we did a feeble Parakram 2 (also under BJP).

Forces in the field, primed up and ready and no orders to attack.

If Trump can force the outcome - why make such bold statements especially when relations with US were going downhill ?

 

[Hydra]

What was being hushed up is now more and more in the open.

Diplomacy was bungled post Pahalgam

Munir as a soldier might be hopeless but as a politician he is top tier.

He got his behind handed to him, yet got promoted. Got Trump on his side and is now hobnobbing with Arabs on Gaza peace plans.

This is by selling the country some might say - the same country has been sold 5-6 times over.

Meanwhile our side spent 6 months saying Sindoor is on and we ll treat every terror attack like an act of war.

When the time came we did a feeble Parakram 2 (also under BJP).

Forces in the field, primed up and ready and no orders to attack.

If Trump can force the outcome - why make such bold statements especially when relations with US were going downhill ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1990092034137587903

Op sindoor2 is dead, or killed by trump & our pathetic EAM's failed diplomacy.

says everything. Many members in this forum is half brained, they go on high for no reason for telling post sindoor, pak is having upperhand on diplomatic front. Bloody hell, look at around you, look at the news around you its crystal clear that we are on backfoot.

 

[Jaymax]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1990092034137587903

Op sindoor2 is dead, or killed by trump & our pathetic EAM's failed diplomacy.

jaishankar is an overhyped mediocre mandarin.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1990092034137587903

says everything. Many members in this forum is half brained, they go on high for no reason for telling post sindoor, pak is having upperhand on diplomatic front. Bloody hell, look at around you, look at the news around you its crystal clear that we are on backfoot.

Easy on the name calling.

Sindoor 2 didn’t take off but the cold season is just starting.

Every intense training cycle is followed by reviews, consults to fine tune plans based on results. Equipment would be in maintenance cycle.

By mid December, things will be at the go-no go point.

If we still don’t go in just suck it and accept the govt called it a day.

 

[Aniruddha]

I was in peedeef, left that forum out of shame the day they shows abhinandan. No, this forum is worse than peedeef on different voice.

I am not even talking about peedeef LoL, only an idiot with no sense of self-worth will even venture in that shithole