The Quad (US, Japan, India, Australia Security Dialogue) : Updates and Discussions

USA demands we fu*k up our farmers to get the trade deal.

It also demands we succumb under its feet like South korea & Japan to be a part of its quote *allies*.

The conflict with china is because we are not willing to give up what we consider our sovereignty To chinese.

Giving up our sovereignty to USA to get its favour against china, defeats the purpose.
No point in squabbling with a brown sepoy. He is your average reel expert when it comes to understanding the international politics.
 
The conflict with china is because we are not willing to give up what we consider our sovereignty To chinese.

Giving up our sovereignty to USA to get its favour against china, defeats the purpose.
37000+ square kilometres, that's the area of Aksai chin they had captured from india in 1962 war. That's bigger than the state Kerala.
Arunachl pradesh, 83000+ square kilometers area and sikim is 7000+ square kilometres of area. Both these states the are seeing as the finger for Tibet (palm). They want these two state as their own wants to snatch it from india either by a full military action or by salami slicing strategy. Also they claim a part of Ladakh as tgeir own and do the same to it also. Another evil objective of chinese is other NE states like Meghalay, Mizoram, Assam & Nagaland to carve out from India & make independent countries.
Do you think that its mere a sovereignty issue? I will call it as an existential threat. USA won't have such evil plan on us definitely, funny part even Pakistan doesnt have this much evil plan for India.

Trump will go in 2029 January, we can easily deal with USA afterwards. Till then we should play smarter so that US will not rip apart from Indian interest. And F*ck indian farmers,we all saw what these idiots had done in Delhi & Redford few years back.
 
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Who is the loser over here? Its India not usa or china or Pakistan. China, soko, japan etc all had meetings with Trump and earned favour for their country. And we, because of ego we skipped multiple occasion where we had opportunity to meet mr Trump to take the advantage.

Now china started arming BD with medium range ballistic missiles, do you have any idea of its implications? In future we may face three front war, we need usa on our side.

Modi ji was fooled by Jaishankar i guess, that jnu alumni made hime to do drama in sco summit, but the main stake holder of sco china & xi later had a summit with Trump.

Now the end result is we are paying more tariff tgan China, and no support from USA against china.
India can wait, no hurry, but never a deal which is bad for it. Have some patience.
 
37000+ square kilometres, that's the area of Aksai chin they had captured from india in 1962 war. That's bigger than the state Kerala.
Arunachl pradesh, 83000+ square kilometers area and sikim is 7000+ square kilometres of area. Both these states the are seeing as the finger for Tibet (palm). They want these two state as their own wants to snatch it from india either by a full military action or by salami slicing strategy. Also they claim a part of Ladakh as tgeir own and do the same to it also. Another evil objective of chinese is other NE states like Meghalay, Mizoram, Assam & Nagaland to carve out from India & make independent countries.
Do you think that its mere a sovereignty issue? I will call it as an existential that. USA won't have such evil plan on us definitely, funny part even Pakistan doesnt have this much evil plan for India.

Trump will go in 2029 January, we can easily deal with USA afterwards. Till then we should play smarter so that US will not rip apart from Indian interest. And F*ck indian farmers,we all saw what these idiots had done in Delhi & Redford few years back.
India was cozying up with US against China via CIA other covert operation in fifties, which resulted 1962 with excellent timing pulled by Chinese. How much help you got from west including US?

1961 India pulled Goa, daman, Diu. West accepted but not happy so India got corporal punishment in form of 1962. You see that afterwards India never had put it's faith on US again.

We have to understand we are alone in Geopolitics and we have to play our card according to situation, and if you aspire to be great power you can't expect crutches from others. As so many analyst and seniors of this forum says from 4-10 Trillion Economy you have to struggle alone and all other big powers are adversary, no exceptions. Geopolitics is nothing but game of power with few candies to small nations based on their usefulness.

You have to accept that Farmers protest was part of Toolkit and mostly middlemen were involved. Only thing happened during that time that actual farmers were not bothered that peoples are cheating them in name of farmer protest.
 
37000+ square kilometres, that's the area of Aksai chin they had captured from india in 1962 war. That's bigger than the state Kerala.
Arunachl pradesh, 83000+ square kilometers area and sikim is 7000+ square kilometres of area. Both these states the are seeing as the finger for Tibet (palm). They want these two state as their own wants to snatch it from india either by a full military action or by salami slicing strategy. Also they claim a part of Ladakh as tgeir own and do the same to it also. Another evil objective of chinese is other NE states like Meghalay, Mizoram, Assam & Nagaland to carve out from India & make independent countries.
Do you think that its mere a sovereignty issue? I will call it as an existential threat. USA won't have such evil plan on us definitely, funny part even Pakistan doesnt have this much evil plan for India.

Trump will go in 2029 January, we can easily deal with USA afterwards. Till then we should play smarter so that US will not rip apart from Indian interest. And F*ck indian farmers,we all saw what these idiots had done in Delhi & Redford few years back.
If China attempts to balkanize India, then it will go back to the stone age.
 
37000+ square kilometres, that's the area of Aksai chin they had captured from india in 1962 war. That's bigger than the state Kerala.
Arunachl pradesh, 83000+ square kilometers area and sikim is 7000+ square kilometres of area. Both these states the are seeing as the finger for Tibet (palm). They want these two state as their own wants to snatch it from india either by a full military action or by salami slicing strategy. Also they claim a part of Ladakh as tgeir own and do the same to it also. Another evil objective of chinese is other NE states like Meghalay, Mizoram, Assam & Nagaland to carve out from India & make independent countries.
Do you think that its mere a sovereignty issue? I will call it as an existential threat. USA won't have such evil plan on us definitely, funny part even Pakistan doesnt have this much evil plan for India.

Trump will go in 2029 January, we can easily deal with USA afterwards. Till then we should play smarter so that US will not rip apart from Indian interest. And F*ck indian farmers,we all saw what these idiots had done in Delhi & Redford few years back.
Regardless of what conspiracy you come up with.
We are not fu*king up lives of 100+million Indian citizens.

So your amrican dalal *censored* can continue coping.
If China attempts to balkanize India, then it will go back to the stone age.
It won't.
Its not willing to pay the price to attempt it.
 
37000+ square kilometres, that's the area of Aksai chin they had captured from india in 1962 war. That's bigger than the state Kerala.
Arunachl pradesh, 83000+ square kilometers area and sikim is 7000+ square kilometres of area. Both these states the are seeing as the finger for Tibet (palm). They want these two state as their own wants to snatch it from india either by a full military action or by salami slicing strategy. Also they claim a part of Ladakh as tgeir own and do the same to it also. Another evil objective of chinese is other NE states like Meghalay, Mizoram, Assam & Nagaland to carve out from India & make independent countries.
Do you think that its mere a sovereignty issue? I will call it as an existential threat. USA won't have such evil plan on us definitely, funny part even Pakistan doesnt have this much evil plan for India.

Trump will go in 2029 January, we can easily deal with USA afterwards. Till then we should play smarter so that US will not rip apart from Indian interest. And F*ck indian farmers,we all saw what these idiots had done in Delhi & Redford few years back.
Also US &west has in past and even now trying to regime change attempts in India.

So forget square kilometer territory, entire Country's fate is at risk of manipulation.
 
I told you baba. He thinks pakistan and US are lesser evil hence why are we not buckling under pressure! Then he chastisise Jaishankar on being anti-USA(?), The guy who is chastised by leftists for his pro-USA sentiments 😂🤣.

I don't know where do these people get their knowledge from. They confuse strategic autonomy with strategic subservience (a common mistake of UPA and Leftists). They want to be in someone lap and become a lapdog but can't cope when countrymen don't prefer that path anymore. It's India and only Indian interests. Period. If those interests means that we need optics with China, so be it. Better than mingling with terrorists and their enablers and do their bidding.

And he seriously thinks US can neglect India, the only country in Indo-pacific which have the potential and have risen to the challenge in last 10 years.
Neither Japan not SK have the geographical depth and political heft needed to counter china.

But Chinese don't have any other nation to counter USA in east either. It can hardly afford the fantasy some indian leftists have of balkanising India. China would be balkanised first if that happens. Tibetan and Uhigyur populace isn't for show. One kaum is prone to radicalisation while myanmar should let anyone know that buddhism doesn't mean subservience to another religion.

We need to chart our own course and criticise govt when they do something averse to our sovereignity. i.e. (demographic change, appeasement, digital & data protection, allowing foreign firms' subsidaries to be counted as indian vendors, making a deal with US under pressure harming our farmers etc, the 87 MALE drone debacle about to happen)

And hydra.. if it's your logic that farmers should be given up on due to farm law protests and toolkits ( which ironically was funded by your western civilization), then you would be the top contender who should be given up on due to your indulgence with anti-India narratives and jihadi sources. But govt( as an institution ) doesn't work that way. It's not going to give up on millions of its own people due to manipulation of west.
 
Who is the loser over here? Its India not usa or china or Pakistan. China, soko, japan etc all had meetings with Trump and earned favour for their country. And we, because of ego we skipped multiple occasion where we had opportunity to meet mr Trump to take the advantage.
The Japanese are literally paying them billions not to get tariffs, meanwhile pakistan is selling Thier country to USA, ohh yeah let's sell our country to the Americans and be a lapdog, who can leave you any moment if things don't go in thier favour, do I have to give e.g South Vietnam, Afghanistan, kurds, now they are doing the same with Ukrainians, Ukrainians have himars but now rockets to fire, artillery rounds PGM all are drying up, USA threatening taiwan to give 50% share to America in TMSC or they won't hel them, do you give guaranty that they will not do G2 deal, & won't secure Thier interest, what will happen to Phillipines when USA strikes a new deal over South China sea,
Do you know why pakistan - Afghanistan ceasefire talk isn't progressing, is pakistan Greenlight of It's airspace for American drones against Afghanistan, which pakistan themselves can't do undo,

India can only help himself by investing on India, investment on R&D, investment on manufacturing industries, investment on Indian MIC,

Last month Netherlands picked up fight against China on behalf of American interest now, nexperia china has secured all the supply chain, leaving Netherlands left with little
 
Regardless of what conspiracy you come up with.
We are not fu*king up lives of 100+million Indian citizens.

So your amrican dalal *censored* can continue coping.

It won't.
Its not willing to pay the price to attempt it.
Precisely, they want us either a subordinate power or a weak and ineffective power while they become lone tiger of the Asian hill. But alas for the Chinese this is unlikely to happen, as now even Korea and Japan are militirizing rapidly let alone India. In 5 years I doubt the PLA will be even able to handle Korea.
 
Also US &west has in past and even now trying to regime change attempts in India.

So forget square kilometer territory, entire Country's fate is at risk of manipulation.
There won't be an india if we loss territory to china. But there will be India with regime change, infact regime change happened many time in past through election.
 
There won't be an india if we loss territory to china. But there will be India with regime change, infact regime change happened many time in past through election.
Honestly, why are you so devoted to blindly sucking up America's lu*d?

NRI?
Business ties to US?

The points you bring up are honestly highly Imbecilic.


As for regime change in past through election, as i said before, it has changed entire fate of the nation for decades.
We lost decades of economic growth due to the policy of gov./regime of past.

🤡Treating regime changes of gov. casually just because election happens regularly.
A regime/gov. Coming into power that's subservient to a foreign country is a disaster, much bigger than land conflict we have right now either with pak or china.
 
Honestly, why are you so devoted to blindly sucking up America's lu*d?

NRI?
Business ties to US?

The points you bring up are honestly highly Imbecilic.
I am choosing the less evil, i want an evil who can support us against the devil. For me china is a devil.
We lost decades of economic growth due to the policy of gov./regime of past.
Its because of Nehruvian socialism, not because of USA. US have nothing to do with our ecenomic slow down, probably USSR might have role.
 
Can't even have a political will to finish a puny nation lile Pakistan.
Finish? Aww like how US finished Taliban? Iran? Iraq?
You just want to criticise.. keep coping.

Modi doesn't have political will to attack pak. Why is modi attacking war. Say no to war. Why Modi stopped. War pls War.

Brown sepoys can keep coping. You remind me of Dinesh D'Souza.
 
Before May 7th, your clown sepoy 🤡 *censored* would have said: "Can't even have a political will to target Pak military".
Keep shifting goalposts because the only thing constant over here is your devotion to sucking up to Goras.
Do you even know what is the meaning of slaying?