Analysis War game: Next India-Pakistan conflict

At this point they are special forces of Pakistan in plain clothes. The sophistication required to not only infiltrate but penetrate into Indian Security forces.. fight with counter terror dedicated teams, just call them for who they are. Pakistani soldiers.

Then you will leave no space for the govt, beauracracy , media, state of both present and future to not act on it offensively.
The non-differentiation requires one more step from society now. Wether it's think tanks, media houses or us here on diff forums and SM.. need to change discourse. They aren't terrorist. They are pak forces invading india

Where news of downed F-16s disappeared from mainstream (ANI posted and then deleted it), I don’t think this is going to happen as media is being controlled and neutered by the government. But I agree with your view there.
 
Between water, kashmir or to deflect from a poor domestic situtation, the threat marker is high for real at this time.
Kashmir - as a cause, has taken a back seat this time I suppose. Water and domestic situation are prime issues. Kashmir was, is and will be the carrot that gets dangled before their awam. The drubbing of a sindoor hurts them for real, they are looking for revenge with US’s backing.
 
Kashmir - as a cause, has taken a back seat this time I suppose. Water and domestic situation are prime issues. Kashmir was, is and will be the carrot that gets dangled before their awam. The drubbing of a sindoor hurts them for real, they are looking for revenge with US’s backing.
They are not looking for revenge.

They view the India Pak conflict as a conflict of ideology - A Nazaryati Jung. They want to settle it in their favor before India leaves them behind.
 
They are not looking for revenge.

They view the India Pak conflict as a conflict of ideology - A Nazaryati Jung. They want to settle it in their favor before India leaves them behind.
Kashmir - as a cause, has taken a back seat this time I suppose. Water and domestic situation are prime issues. Kashmir was, is and will be the carrot that gets dangled before their awam. The drubbing of a sindoor hurts them for real, they are looking for revenge with US’s backing.


Shebaz sharif gave an interview a couple days ago. He said it on record.. that they have wages 4 wars. They won't let it go just like that.
The ground is being set up.
 
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What happened in Leh today is an indication of things to come. Hope our administration is keeping its eyes peeled!
 
They are not looking for revenge.

They view the India Pak conflict as a conflict of ideology - A Nazaryati Jung. They want to settle it in their favor before India leaves them behind.
Recent events particularly the partial rapprochement between Pindi boys & Washington DC , the KSA Fauji Foundation pact which couldn't be possible without US blessings & the sudden downturn in Indo US ties will cause Asim Manure to miscalculate once again.

While Fauji Foundation has a history of miscalculating bungling generals this guy is particularly bad by their already low standards.

As & when war breaks out for unlike previous instances in this century I'd be inclined to believe it'd be a war , we should take out the generals first thing & that includes the top brass of not only Fauji Foundation but PN & PAF too.

That's the only language they'd understand properly & for some time to come for what's an in bred who doesn't act stupid eventually.

What this will also do is render their armed forces paralysed letting the various militant groups there taking on Fauji Foundation to make hay while the sun shines hastening the descent of the Paxtani State .

Doubt our dhotis will muster the necessary courage to do so though as their immediate fear would be - what about the Pakistani nukes , irrespective however good the intelligence we've on them & however good & effective our counterforce targetting is ?!
 
Recent events particularly the partial rapprochement between Pindi boys & Washington DC , the KSA Fauji Foundation pact which couldn't be possible without US blessings & the sudden downturn in Indo US ties will cause Asim Manure to miscalculate once again.
Oh you bet. My money is on the fuse being already lit.
As & when war breaks out for unlike previous instances in this century I'd be inclined to believe it'd be a war , we should take out the generals first thing & that includes the top brass of not only Fauji Foundation but PN & PAF too.
That might just be the plan if the general green light is given.
what about the Pakistani nukes , irrespective however good the intelligence we've on them & however good & effective our counterforce targetting is ?!

Break the release authority chain of command (discussed above). No release authorized - delay builds confusion - throw the survivors a bone promising a crushing counter strike if they don’t bite.
 
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People still can't open their eyes.

Pakistan ko kabhi bhi nipta sakte hai. They are not the threat. They are irritants. The threat are hidden players using Pakistan. But before that I guess, Bangladesh niptega. Whole north east of India is struggling with influx and pakistan will use it as launchpad for outfits to avoid direct attention from India.
 
Recent events particularly the partial rapprochement between Pindi boys & Washington DC , the KSA Fauji Foundation pact which couldn't be possible without US blessings & the sudden downturn in Indo US ties will cause Asim Manure to miscalculate once again.

While Fauji Foundation has a history of miscalculating bungling generals this guy is particularly bad by their already low standards.

As & when war breaks out for unlike previous instances in this century I'd be inclined to believe it'd be a war , we should take out the generals first thing & that includes the top brass of not only Fauji Foundation but PN & PAF too.

That's the only language they'd understand properly & for some time to come for what's an in bred who doesn't act stupid eventually.

What this will also do is render their armed forces paralysed letting the various militant groups there taking on Fauji Foundation to make hay while the sun shines hastening the descent of the Paxtani State .

Doubt our dhotis will muster the necessary courage to do so though as their immediate fear would be - what about the Pakistani nukes , irrespective however good the intelligence we've on them & however good & effective our counterforce targetting is ?!
Probably, also take out their political leadership - help release Imran and let him take over conditionally. This will put the fear of god in them, one mistake and they will go boom!!
 
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Probably, also take out their political leadership - help release Imran and let him take over conditionally. This will put the fear of god in them, one mistake and they will go boom!!
No , not needed. We're not known for it . In fact we're not known to be aggressive in the least which is the reason we're thought of as push overs.

On topic , the entire world including New Delhi knows that defence & foreign policy in Paxtan is the preserve of Fauji Foundation . We touch the civilian leadership & we risk being called out severely for over reacting.

Plus the civilian leadership of Ganja No 1 & 2 have been well disposed towards us going by past records & more importantly we need somebody credible to stabilize the situation there if we do take out the military top brass.

All around chaos & anarchy will backfire on us . However if these measures by us ( taking out Fauji Foundation top brass but sparing the civilian leadership ) result in a massive uprising by people demanding the release of Khansama successfully so be it .

Hopefully that movement further destabilizes Paxtan & once Khansama returns to power , which I doubt , he'd accomplish our goals for us.
 
Ghar mein paani nahi aa raha badi badi policy baad mein banana. NDMC ka Pyare Lal 200 rupey leta hai ki supply theek rahy sala phir bhi dhoka. Abey thoda Indus ka pani idhar divert kardo. Faida kya hua jab peeny ko pani hi na miley.
 
No , not needed. We're not known for it . In fact we're not known to be aggressive in the least which is the reason we're thought of as push overs.

On topic , the entire world including New Delhi knows that defence & foreign policy in Paxtan is the preserve of Fauji Foundation . We touch the civilian leadership & we risk being called out severely for over reacting.

Plus the civilian leadership of Ganja No 1 & 2 have been well disposed towards us going by past records & more importantly we need somebody credible to stabilize the situation there if we do take out the military top brass.

All around chaos & anarchy will backfire on us . However if these measures by us ( taking out Fauji Foundation top brass but sparing the civilian leadership ) result in a massive uprising by people demanding the release of Khansama successfully so be it .

Hopefully that movement further destabilizes Paxtan & once Khansama returns to power , which I doubt , he'd accomplish our goals for us.
If you want a plan that does not bring total chaos, it has been to Naya Pakistan with Fauj ki Rehbari. The survivors must be promised a future and a role in the post conflict state (post some adjustments - Baloch question etc). Some seniors need a golden parachute, some need a future that includes them.

Pakistan and Civil Rule is like a chronic IBS patient ODing on caffeine. Cricketer turned Tehrikis, Chindi Sindhis PPPs, Bald Noonias, Safris like Parchoonias - all cut from the same cloth - total write-offs.

A pliant truncated military focused on western aid and internal policing is our best bet.
 
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A pliant truncated military focused on western aid and internal policing is our best bet.
Not for long though. With the situation to our East deteriorating & the sub humans from there already in substantial numbers over here as illegal immigrants , it's only a matter of time before the fire that's lit there spreads to our NE , from there to WB & then the rest of the country.

In such circumstances Paxtan or whatever's left of it will find the urge to scratch the itch too irresistible .

Dial back to the Battle of Talikota & the situation that prevailed there before the battle , what brought about it & how did it end ! That holds a lot of lessons for us.

Frankly I'd rather Fauji Foundation initiates a N exchange & a few find their mark here . Gives us the perfect excuse to do to them what Rome did to Cathage several times over .

Alas ! As if now it's in the realm of fantasies. Having said that who knows ?! Bharat Karnad used to propose a lot of "outrageous" ideas in the early 2000s . A good number of those scenarios have come to pass.
 
Dial back to the Battle of Talikota & the situation that prevailed there before the battle , what brought about it & how did it end ! That holds a lot of lessons for us.


I am talking about zip tying and castrating the feral hog. Not let it build up strength.

Defanged and split up. The remaining force trying to maintain order and consequently its corner plots.
 
I am talking about zip tying and castrating the feral hog. Not let it build up strength.

Defanged and split up. The remaining force trying to maintain order and consequently its corner plots.

For that we need a big scale war. And that won't be limited to pak but likely include bangladesh too. Can't say about chinese as it depends on larger geopolitical factors.

What you're envisioning is the germany post WW2. Need that scale of war.. to rally all stakeholders and come together to neuter Pakistani military