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U.S. President Donald Trump plans to introduce a new $100,000 application fee for H-1B worker visas, according to a White House official, in an effort to reduce their use as part of his broader immigration crackdown.

The Republican president was expected to sign a proclamation as early as Friday restricting entry under the H-1B visa program unless the application fee is paid, the official said. Trump also planned to order changes to the prevailing-wage levels for the H-1B program as a way to limit their use.
 
*illegal trade

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So this is what I was able to find about this issue:


In January, the US Department of Justice said it had charged two India-based companies, Raxuter Chemicals and Athos Chemicals, along with Bhavesh Lathiya, a senior executive of Raxuter Chemicals, with conspiring to distribute and import fentanyl precursor. Mr Lathiya was arrested on 4 January.

In March, federal prosecutors in Washington also charged Vasudha Pharma Chem Ltd and three of its senior employees with illegally manufacturing and distributing fentanyl precursors, the US Drug Enforcement Administration said in a press statement.
 
This is Very Sad

Some Indians involved in Smuggling Fentanyl

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These chemicals are widely available in countries which have large industrial base. Just bcos somebody imported our chemicals does not mean that we are guilty. They can deny visa based on their own criteria, nothing new here.


U.S. President Donald Trump plans to introduce a new $100,000 application fee for H-1B worker visas, according to a White House official, in an effort to reduce their use as part of his broader immigration crackdown.

The Republican president was expected to sign a proclamation as early as Friday restricting entry under the H-1B visa program unless the application fee is paid, the official said. Trump also planned to order changes to the prevailing-wage levels for the H-1B program as a way to limit their use.
This is usual monkey dance to placate the wignats, every one knows that rules are not enforceable as the h1b was created by congress legislation. Fees for applications are also set by congress bill. They will tout the actions as a win and once the dust settles nothing much would have changed.
 
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U.S. President Donald Trump plans to introduce a new $100,000 application fee for H-1B worker visas, according to a White House official, in an effort to reduce their use as part of his broader immigration crackdown.

The Republican president was expected to sign a proclamation as early as Friday restricting entry under the H-1B visa program unless the application fee is paid, the official said. Trump also planned to order changes to the prevailing-wage levels for the H-1B program as a way to limit their use.
I think ... it may make sense to ban or degrade Twitter, Youtube, WhatsApp, Reddit, FaceBook etc for a small amount of time without publically owning the ban as a trial run for "Strengthening Digital Sovereignty".
 
I think ... it may make sense to ban or degrade Twitter, Youtube, WhatsApp, Reddit, FaceBook etc for a small amount of time without publically owning the ban as a trial run for "Strengthening Digital Sovereignty".

Nah. Digital sovereignty doesn't come from SM. But the Softwares that our industry runs on. From OS to software applications, hardware to match that.. everything. SM is very miniscule part.
 
I think ... it may make sense to ban or degrade Twitter, Youtube, WhatsApp, Reddit, FaceBook etc for a small amount of time without publically owning the ban as a trial run for "Strengthening Digital Sovereignty".
Makes more sense to develop desi replacements including the OS powering our computers across the country.

Time for the government to wake up & draw up a roadmap . Get a public pvt partnership going to build up desi stacks . Involve the armed forces too.

Formulate a deadline wherein all government bodies & government run organizations switch over to the desi OS in say 5 years.

We couldn't do so before for fear of retaliation. That's gone now. This is the best way to answer all those tariffs & H-1b clauses aimed exclusively at us.

If I've read things correctly , any action now should see implementation in 5-10 yrs time exactly around the time I anticipate US & its allies to go up against China for Taiwan.

That war is going to devastate East Asia totally apart from depleting the US & changing the global order . Are we in a position to capitalise on it ? The preparations for the outcome then begins now.
 
Nah. Digital sovereignty doesn't come from SM. But the Softwares that our industry runs on. From OS to software applications, hardware to match that.. everything. SM is very miniscule part.
Exactly the reason. SM is miniscule but very visible. H1B thing is similar as well. If Trump REALLY wanted to hit, he would have hit L1 and GCCs on India. This is a very precise attack on India for putting "Maximum Pressure" --- actually that term is official US jargon in foreign policy.

It should be retaliated on precise visible surface.
 
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Makes more sense to develop desi replacements including the OS powering our computers across the country.
No need. There are 1000s of distro of linux. Choose one and stick to it. No need to reinvent the wheel.

Time for the government to wake up & draw up a roadmap . Get a public pvt partnership going to build up desi stacks . Involve the armed forces too.
This is already underway.

Formulate a deadline wherein all government bodies & government run organizations switch over to the desi OS in say 5 years.
This is a must.

We couldn't do so before for fear of retaliation. That's gone now. This is the best way to answer all those tariffs & H-1b clauses aimed exclusively at us.
Actually, this is more of a show of strength than an actual attack. The real attack would have involved L1.

If I've read things correctly , any action now should see implementation in 5-10 yrs time exactly around the time I anticipate US & its allies to go up against China for Taiwan.
Trump has just nuked all American allies. Taiwan should just join China peacefully now than face a war in which it has ZERO chance of winning. US is out of the game completely.
 
Overall I feel, we are in the midst of an undeclared economic war on India. Should India persist, it will be way more powerful but someone has to pay the political cost.

Now I am beginning to understand what Modi meant when he said "I will have to pay massive price personally".
 
Exactly the reason. SM is miniscule but very visible. H1B thing is similar as well. If Trump REALLY wanted to hit, he would have hit L1 and GCCs on India. This is a very precise attack on India for putting "Maximum Pressure" --- actually that term is official US jargon in foreign policy.

It should be retaliated on precise visible surface.

But that's the thing no. Trump and his coterie wants the headlines. It will only give them the exact thing they are looking for after fiasco with russia-ukraine & China TACO.
But actual digital sovereignty will hurt US interest way more than anything..which will make Trump back out. His donors and companies making billions off India. That works in US polity.

Better is to develop systems from ground up. And we do have them. Wether it's OS or libraries, languages etc.. our establishment has it but state controlled. Not for commercial purposes yet.
And I believe that's the dilemma govt finds itself in. They will want to have a software indigenization coming from the Indian industry in a free market but industry isn't ready to compete with US giants. Not on talent but wether it's regulation, internal structure etc. And startups just don't have the capacity.
And the roll out of softwares made by state is not the ideal way unless a bigger justification and need arises where advantages outweigh the risk.
Expect a gradual rollout away from the eyes. Starting from high priority domains
 
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But that's the thing no. Trump and his coterie wants the headlines. It will only give them the exact thing they are looking for after fiasco with russia-ukraine & China TACO.
Well, plausible deniability. Give them some time to simmer and then say all of it was just "technical difficulty".

In world war 2, America did an Operation Dolittle (Dolittle was the name of person who came up with operation idea) to retaliate against Japanese attacking pearl harbor. It indeed did little but it was the salvo that put Japanese on backfoot.

But actual digital sovereignty will hurt US interest way more than anything..which will make Trump back out. His donors and companies making billions off India. That works in US polity.
Getting off OS and American tech is long term thing, can not be done in days. This is ongoing, it needs to be accelerated.

Better is to develop systems from ground up. And we do have them. Wether it's OS or libraries, languages etc.. our establishment has it but state controlled. Not for commercial purposes yet.
No need to reinvent wheel. A lot of software is already in OSS. Choose a great Linux distroy as base and fork an India specific one and go ahead with it.

And I believe that's the dilemma govt finds itself in. They will want to have a software indigenization coming from the Indian industry in a free market but industry isn't ready to compete with US giants. Not on talent but wether it's regulation, internal structure etc. And startups just don't have the capacity.
For most things, we do not need to compete with US giants. Because most software needed are in OSS. The biggest selling point of American software needed is just that they have great SMEs and professional to develop solutions. But then India has so many people that we can create an army of SMEs as needed.

And startups just don't have the capacity.
And the roll out of softwares made by state is not the ideal way unless a bigger justification and need arises where advantages outweigh the risk.
Expect a gradual rollout away from the eyes. Starting from high priority domains
Actually a lot of companies with in India (think FlipKart) have been doing what I mentioned above. Creating solutions around open source software for business needs. They are focused on their own solution.

Its not that common in government space because of simple inertia.
 
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As of today, any changes will have a ripple effect. H1B visa will also affects USCIS government income, immigration lawyer earnings in the USA will go down, and the biggest impact will be on USA universities, which are largely supported by international students. If they don't get H1B, they won't apply for student visas either. So, let's just wait and see.
 
All research institutions must be heavily funded in public private partnership to develop tools not just to research. All ITI's must be given higher importance especially in Electrical, mechanical and IT domains which have been neglected bigtime. Without these two there can't be industrial development.

Secondly, giving OEM stamp and white paper to assembling units must stop. They are not manufacturing nor designing any product.
 
No need. There are 1000s of distro of linux. Choose one and stick to it. No need to reinvent the wheel.
Fine then work with Linux as the base & build stacks. Let it be a public private partnership with the armed forces involved hopefully under their stewardship like it is in the US for foundational programs which deeply impact the society as well as the polity.
This is already underway.
Was referring to the OS & SM .
This is a must.

Actually, this is more of a show of strength than an actual attack. The real attack would have involved L1.
I believe this is testing the waters phase not so much vis a vis India as vis a vis Silicon Valley. Early days yet but there's been a deathly silence over the entire issue.

If nobody challenges Trump he'd proceed with enacting the HIRE Act. At this point it makes more sense to pay attention to his election manifesto else we'd resemble the opposition here who moved around like headless chickens when Modi rescinded Art 370 claiming it had been part of the BJP's manifesto since ages.
Trump has just nuked all American allies. Taiwan should just join China peacefully now than face a war in which it has ZERO chance of winning. US is out of the game completely.
All these developments are up until Jan 2029 in the worst case scenario assuming the courts don't turn them down & if they don't the mid term elections surely will force a walk back.

Our job is to weather the storm till then .

Keep working hard , keep your head down , hide your strength & bide your time.

~ Deng Xiaoping.
 
Fine then work with Linux as the base & build stacks. Let it be a public private partnership with the armed forces involved hopefully under their stewardship like it is in the US for foundational programs which deeply impact the society as well as the polity.

Was referring to the OS & SM .



I believe this is testing the waters phase not so much vis a vis India as vis a vis Silicon Valley. Early days yet but there's been a deathly silence over the entire issue.

If nobody challenges Trump he'd proceed with enacting the HIRE Act. At this point it makes more sense to pay attention to his election manifesto else we'd resemble the opposition here who moved around like headless chickens when Modi rescinded Art 370 claiming it had been part of the BJP's manifesto since ages.

All these developments are up until Jan 2029 in the worst case scenario assuming the courts don't turn them down & if they don't the mid term elections surely will force a walk back.

Our job is to weather the storm till then .

Keep working hard , keep your head down , hide your strength & bide your time.

~ Deng Xiaoping.
Exactly. Our time has NOT come and it wont come for decades. Need to stay more discrete until then.
 
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Coming to IT sector, it requires some reform in India. All the code writing and basic networking jobs should be transferred to diploma in eng. holders ( apprentice is must), even the MNCs have started relying on diploma in eng holders for such portfolios especially in Industrial PLC programming, Data Centers, HVAC maintenance and other Manufacturing plants. You don't need an IITian grad to program it. You need an IITian grad to develop this program. Application based learning is easy and another part of skill development which is must for boost in manufacturing.

There should be clear demarcation of who is doing what. Not some chaos. Good programm developers are loosing their talent in some miniscule task which can be handled by diploma holders.