All this practice only to be knocked out 350 KMs deep in Pak territory by S400s!
Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan
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All this practice only to be knocked out 350 KMs deep in Pak territory by S400s!
Indian Navy's positioning during the conflict
'In Operation Sindoor, 15 MiG-29Ks On Vikrant..': Inside Scoop On Indian Navy's Operations
Vice Admiral Tarun Sobti, Deputy Chief of Naval Staff, said the Indian Navy’s swift and decisive role in Operation Sindoor showcased its combat readiness, deterrent posture, and lessons for future warfare., India News, Times Now
All this practice only to be knocked out 350 KMs deep in Pak territory by S400s!
Possibly they are trying new strategies and tactics against Indian air defence. Especially to conduct SEAD/DEAD from standoff distances. But what exactly they know about Indian air defence?
Yeah, they are doing something for sure! I believe they have received intelligence from US and/or China this time and they are keeping the metal hot such that they are ready to strike at a moments notice when some jihadi blows up something on our side.
Next time we need to take Orange top interference into account..
Should be Blitzkrieg .. instead of 2 or 3 days campaign should end in 1 night .
Should be Blitzkrieg .. instead of 2 or 3 days campaign should end in 1 night .
Not sure how that’s possible with a near peer adversary. The next one will most definitely see a longer conflict with good deal of damage on our side as well. That’s my hunch at least.
We will wait for The Orange Lunatic to lose Mid Terms and become dysfunctional and unpopular in his own country
But Before that if the RETARDS next door give us an opportunity on a Platter , we should grab it with both hands
The sheer number of infiltration attempts going on at the moment (including the three MFs who got in from Nepal), they will eventually succeed in doing something leading to loss of life on our side (civilian and/or military).
If you ask me, we have plenty of opportunity in terms of our declared doctrine - pushing these elements into India to create a chaos and panic should be sufficient for action. However, our Babus need “bali” and “actual blood” before they act!
It's a test of our will, of our declaration of new normal. I bet they will try to portray the terrorist as indian or bangladeshi. Opposition will start surrounding the govt too. They will play to the ISI and CIAs tune.
In all that mess, it will be upto the govt, intelligence and military to carry on with our new normal. To show that it's not a bluff anymore. And not only striking adversary but also gagging certain elements like raga and his circle.
I won't comment on mil strategy but they will 100% test the new normal and most definitely the whole international media along with our 0.5 front ( SP+CONG etc..) will propogate their narrative to demoralise public support.
Only an outright and crushing victory will vindicate ourselves. And that's why I say that there's not enough seriousness yet. We should have been building bunkers in all the cities to send people underground. And keep cities like mumbai and Delhi under special cover.
Will also let us know if we the public have what it takes to beat our enemies.
The general population’s risk appetite and ability to accept loss will be the deciding factor. Last time there wasn’t any large scale damage to life and property other than in border areas. A few BMs hitting our metro cities will test our resolve to the core!
Resolve ???? - some rumor over a jet shot down and everyone was losing their minds.
The 70s folk were made of sterner stuff.
Unfortunately, India's ability for IW was a serious let down. Also, as has been posted above, news of losses led to morale drop. These factors are no joke when it comes to prolonged wars that last at least 20-30 days. The need for a hardened resolve is much needed (as has been the case since ancient times) when it comes to military operations.
You know... Most of that losing mind was social media hysteria with more noidey, less substance. More political cause opposition knew how big of a thing India did and how bad it makes them look given their record.
But in day to day life.. I bet common people understand that it wasn't a big deal.
If govt cant handle IW than it needs to shut down public access to internet period.
Incursion attempts will continue and will reduce only when the weather turns harsher. This is the reality of the situation right now. The push is happening before certain passes close. Pakistan has a new backer so they have no dearth of information to carry out infiltration bids.
This is where they are testing our “declared new normal” and the doctrinal change. So far, we have been quite timid after Sindoor to be honest! As I said, things will go hot only after substantial bloodshed on our side.
Till then we will keep playing “Notam-Notam” —
Suddenly one NOTAM will turn into preemptive strikes from either side. And voila
. What do people here think will happen if something takes place through nepal, Bangladesh or sleeper cells in India which are underground rn. What if rather than guns, the attacker uses knifes, swords or try create riot situation like in WB.. how will govt react?
Or if arms are used like guns but terrorist turns out to be Bangladeshi or sleeper cells or can't confirm pakistani identity.. what then?
I doubt they will try to do something on J&K only. Since they risk retaliation, they might be emboldened to strike somewhere more visibility.. Given the CIA/ISI role in BD and then India recently.. CIA might even enable it.
Cause US would also wanna test the will and resilience. Cause you can be sure of toolkit being spread via western media and platforms
Chance for a conflict is low right now for next 2-3 months.
Pak needs to overhaul PAF PN into something remotely useful. Unless Trump gets money he is not going to give any new Radars to Pak. He doesnt give freebies. Trump's message to Pak will be - dont worry I will manage the situation and not let is escalate.
Pak being Pak will look to irritate India with low key strikes but a Pahalgam/Pulwama is not possible right now. Pak knows US has limited leverage over New Delhi and New Delhi will again do a 24-48 hour strike before Trump can do anything to control. With the damage they took last time, they will need to put together a new action plan - reequip retrain units - all of that takes time. After Pulwama - they were so badly shaken they did not try anything serious for almost 4-5 months!!! This time the damage was far worse.
India is looking to figure out the trade tariff issue among the larger dispute with Trump. India is also looking to apply lessons from Sindoor and that too will take time.
Pak needs to overhaul PAF PN into something remotely useful. Unless Trump gets money he is not going to give any new Radars to Pak. He doesnt give freebies. Trump's message to Pak will be - dont worry I will manage the situation and not let is escalate.
Pak being Pak will look to irritate India with low key strikes but a Pahalgam/Pulwama is not possible right now. Pak knows US has limited leverage over New Delhi and New Delhi will again do a 24-48 hour strike before Trump can do anything to control. With the damage they took last time, they will need to put together a new action plan - reequip retrain units - all of that takes time. After Pulwama - they were so badly shaken they did not try anything serious for almost 4-5 months!!! This time the damage was far worse.
India is looking to figure out the trade tariff issue among the larger dispute with Trump. India is also looking to apply lessons from Sindoor and that too will take time.
Common sense says that. But our neighbours haven't been famous for their rationality.. and can't ignore the PAFs need to placate various terror groups.
Hopefully the govt and military are planning for such scenario...
Another way to look at the situation is — Pakistan is and always has been expendable for US. The last thing India needs right now is a long drawn conflict and that’s exactly what US will want to push on us. There are two advantages for US/Trump —
1. Apply pressure on India to not react and dismantle Pak beyond a basic retaliatory strike.
2. Trump gets to say that he stopped another war.
In the process, GoI’s position becomes weak internally for not effectively dealing with Pak — this will be weaponised by CIA via opposition for a regime change.
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