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America is too cowardly to fight a war with any state that has nukes. Nothing is going to happen.
America is not too cowardly but too smart. When push comes to shove, they don't just own 11 Aircraft Carriers for show along with hoardes of 4th, 5th & 6th gen(in future) fighters.
In 1971, we almost came to war with the US. The way we are pursuing an independent foreign policy and refuse to be their vassal state, sooner or later, Uncle Sam will come for us. We need to be ready and prepared for all eventualities.
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Forget what you know about the US. The very nature of the US has began to change :
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The National Guard’s role in law enforcement throughout the country could expand under an executive order signed by President Donald Trump on Monday.
The order requires Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to create a specialized unit within the D.C. National Guard “dedicated to ensuring public safety and order in the nation's capital.”
Hegseth also is charged with establishing “a standing National Guard quick reaction force that shall be resourced, trained and available for rapid nationwide deployment.”
The Pentagon did not immediately have more details on its plans to implement the executive order, saying in an emailed statement Monday afternoon only that it is “reviewing the order and its specific requirements” and “will provide updates or announcements as appropriate.”
It also did not answer a question on how the quick reaction force would differ from the current National Guard Reaction Force, which draws from existing units to respond to emergencies within eight hours.
The executive action comes as Trump has threatened to replicate the National Guard deployments he’s ordered in Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles in other Democratic-run cities, and would represent a major escalation in his use of the military to exact political retribution.
About 2,000 Guardsmen, more than half of whom were sent from out of town by Republican governors, are patrolling D.C. right now. Trump has cast the deployment as necessary to combat rampant crime, but local and federal statistics show violent crime in D.C. is at a 30-year low.
The Guardsmen, some of whom are now armed, are mostly patrolling low-crime tourist areas. They are also preparing to essentially perform community service, such as trash cleanup.
The D.C. deployment came after Trump ordered about 4,000 Guardsmen and 700 Marines to mobilize in Los Angeles earlier this summer in response to protests against his administration’s aggressive immigration raids. Contrary to the administration’s depictions of Los Angeles as consumed by violent rioters, the protests were mostly peaceful and confined to a few blocks downtown.
In recent days, Trump has made clear he plans to expand those types of deployments throughout the country. He has singled out Chicago and New York City, and on Sunday, also threatened to target Baltimore.
“We’re ready to go anywhere,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office during Monday’s executive order signing when asked whether he’s preparing to deploy troops to Chicago.
Trump can unilaterally deploy the National Guard in Washington, D.C., since the district is not a state. But in other jurisdictions, he may be faced with a complex web of legal authorities. For example, the Los Angeles deployment sparked a lawsuit by California officials arguing Trump usurped states’ rights.
Still, Monday’s executive order suggests he is preparing for more widespread Guard deployments.
In addition to creating a standing quick reaction force, the order tasks Hegseth with ensuring Guardsmen across the country are prepared to assist law enforcement with “quelling civil disturbances and ensuring the public safety and order whenever the circumstances necessitate.” Hegseth must also designate “an appropriate number of each state's trained National Guard members to be reasonably available for rapid mobilization” to help law enforcement, the order says.
In the specialized law enforcement unit in the D.C. National Guard, the Guardsmen will be deputized to “enforce federal law,” according to the order.
Hina Shamsi, director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s National Security Project, called Trump’s threats to expand military deployments “unjustified and dangerous.”
“President Trump’s escalating threats directly undermine our foundational value that the military should not be policing civilians, create legal jeopardy for service members and federal agents, and put regular people going about their lives at high risk of having their rights violated,” Shamsi said in a statement Monday. “Governors and other state and local leaders must stay strong and take all lawful measures to protect their residents against the president’s repeated attempts to intimidate us.”
Trump Order Deepens National Guard’s Role in US Law Enforcement
The order requires Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to create a specialized unit within the D.C. National Guard “dedicated to ensuring public safety and order in the nation's capital.”
www.military.com
The National Guard’s role in law enforcement throughout the country could expand under an executive order signed by President Donald Trump on Monday.
The order requires Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to create a specialized unit within the D.C. National Guard “dedicated to ensuring public safety and order in the nation's capital.”
Hegseth also is charged with establishing “a standing National Guard quick reaction force that shall be resourced, trained and available for rapid nationwide deployment.”
The Pentagon did not immediately have more details on its plans to implement the executive order, saying in an emailed statement Monday afternoon only that it is “reviewing the order and its specific requirements” and “will provide updates or announcements as appropriate.”
It also did not answer a question on how the quick reaction force would differ from the current National Guard Reaction Force, which draws from existing units to respond to emergencies within eight hours.
The executive action comes as Trump has threatened to replicate the National Guard deployments he’s ordered in Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles in other Democratic-run cities, and would represent a major escalation in his use of the military to exact political retribution.
About 2,000 Guardsmen, more than half of whom were sent from out of town by Republican governors, are patrolling D.C. right now. Trump has cast the deployment as necessary to combat rampant crime, but local and federal statistics show violent crime in D.C. is at a 30-year low.
The Guardsmen, some of whom are now armed, are mostly patrolling low-crime tourist areas. They are also preparing to essentially perform community service, such as trash cleanup.
The D.C. deployment came after Trump ordered about 4,000 Guardsmen and 700 Marines to mobilize in Los Angeles earlier this summer in response to protests against his administration’s aggressive immigration raids. Contrary to the administration’s depictions of Los Angeles as consumed by violent rioters, the protests were mostly peaceful and confined to a few blocks downtown.
In recent days, Trump has made clear he plans to expand those types of deployments throughout the country. He has singled out Chicago and New York City, and on Sunday, also threatened to target Baltimore.
“We’re ready to go anywhere,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office during Monday’s executive order signing when asked whether he’s preparing to deploy troops to Chicago.
Trump can unilaterally deploy the National Guard in Washington, D.C., since the district is not a state. But in other jurisdictions, he may be faced with a complex web of legal authorities. For example, the Los Angeles deployment sparked a lawsuit by California officials arguing Trump usurped states’ rights.
Still, Monday’s executive order suggests he is preparing for more widespread Guard deployments.
In addition to creating a standing quick reaction force, the order tasks Hegseth with ensuring Guardsmen across the country are prepared to assist law enforcement with “quelling civil disturbances and ensuring the public safety and order whenever the circumstances necessitate.” Hegseth must also designate “an appropriate number of each state's trained National Guard members to be reasonably available for rapid mobilization” to help law enforcement, the order says.
In the specialized law enforcement unit in the D.C. National Guard, the Guardsmen will be deputized to “enforce federal law,” according to the order.
Hina Shamsi, director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s National Security Project, called Trump’s threats to expand military deployments “unjustified and dangerous.”
“President Trump’s escalating threats directly undermine our foundational value that the military should not be policing civilians, create legal jeopardy for service members and federal agents, and put regular people going about their lives at high risk of having their rights violated,” Shamsi said in a statement Monday. “Governors and other state and local leaders must stay strong and take all lawful measures to protect their residents against the president’s repeated attempts to intimidate us.”
is Trump planning to do a operation to capture all ANTIFA and similar organizations? or a wider deportation activity? Many postal services are stopped shipping to USA.crack down on drug cartels? is some thing more happening?Forget what you know about the US. The very nature of the US has began to change :
Trump Order Deepens National Guard’s Role in US Law Enforcement
The order requires Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to create a specialized unit within the D.C. National Guard “dedicated to ensuring public safety and order in the nation's capital.”
The National Guard’s role in law enforcement throughout the country could expand under an executive order signed by President Donald Trump on Monday.
The order requires Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to create a specialized unit within the D.C. National Guard “dedicated to ensuring public safety and order in the nation's capital.”
Hegseth also is charged with establishing “a standing National Guard quick reaction force that shall be resourced, trained and available for rapid nationwide deployment.”
The Pentagon did not immediately have more details on its plans to implement the executive order, saying in an emailed statement Monday afternoon only that it is “reviewing the order and its specific requirements” and “will provide updates or announcements as appropriate.”
It also did not answer a question on how the quick reaction force would differ from the current National Guard Reaction Force, which draws from existing units to respond to emergencies within eight hours.
The executive action comes as Trump has threatened to replicate the National Guard deployments he’s ordered in Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles in other Democratic-run cities, and would represent a major escalation in his use of the military to exact political retribution.
About 2,000 Guardsmen, more than half of whom were sent from out of town by Republican governors, are patrolling D.C. right now. Trump has cast the deployment as necessary to combat rampant crime, but local and federal statistics show violent crime in D.C. is at a 30-year low.
The Guardsmen, some of whom are now armed, are mostly patrolling low-crime tourist areas. They are also preparing to essentially perform community service, such as trash cleanup.
The D.C. deployment came after Trump ordered about 4,000 Guardsmen and 700 Marines to mobilize in Los Angeles earlier this summer in response to protests against his administration’s aggressive immigration raids. Contrary to the administration’s depictions of Los Angeles as consumed by violent rioters, the protests were mostly peaceful and confined to a few blocks downtown.
In recent days, Trump has made clear he plans to expand those types of deployments throughout the country. He has singled out Chicago and New York City, and on Sunday, also threatened to target Baltimore.
“We’re ready to go anywhere,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office during Monday’s executive order signing when asked whether he’s preparing to deploy troops to Chicago.
Trump can unilaterally deploy the National Guard in Washington, D.C., since the district is not a state. But in other jurisdictions, he may be faced with a complex web of legal authorities. For example, the Los Angeles deployment sparked a lawsuit by California officials arguing Trump usurped states’ rights.
Still, Monday’s executive order suggests he is preparing for more widespread Guard deployments.
In addition to creating a standing quick reaction force, the order tasks Hegseth with ensuring Guardsmen across the country are prepared to assist law enforcement with “quelling civil disturbances and ensuring the public safety and order whenever the circumstances necessitate.” Hegseth must also designate “an appropriate number of each state's trained National Guard members to be reasonably available for rapid mobilization” to help law enforcement, the order says.
In the specialized law enforcement unit in the D.C. National Guard, the Guardsmen will be deputized to “enforce federal law,” according to the order.
Hina Shamsi, director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s National Security Project, called Trump’s threats to expand military deployments “unjustified and dangerous.”
“President Trump’s escalating threats directly undermine our foundational value that the military should not be policing civilians, create legal jeopardy for service members and federal agents, and put regular people going about their lives at high risk of having their rights violated,” Shamsi said in a statement Monday. “Governors and other state and local leaders must stay strong and take all lawful measures to protect their residents against the president’s repeated attempts to intimidate us.”
Nah. They will come covertly for sure.. but before India, they will intensify it at Pakistan in covert face off. Hopefully IB & RAW can get it's standard to the level that even CIA can't penetrate india like it can now.
As for overt military operation is unlikely unless China has been dealt a blow too massive. Which imo even India doesn't want. Sure we wanna grow strong .. but not in our interest to deal USSR style blow to China in next couple of decades atleast.
Cause like it or not.. China is the primary reason that east is gaining it's influence back. India has just started taking its own stand recently.
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I will be least surprised if we get into Op Sindoor 2.0 very very soon. USA will use its lap dogs like Pakistan and BanglaDesh to create trouble for us and force us into a military action against them to put sanctions on us thru UN. IF USA does so, it will be a golden opportunity for India to Take out Rangpur and Chittagaon from BD and break apart Pakistan. This will completely remove American influence from South Asia.
This is the way Modi shows people their place. Modi is born in Shatru Hanta Yog which means anyone who fights him, will vanish and perish. Next is BRICS currency loading in SCO meet. Trump will take down not just America but also its poodle UK and whole of EU. They will go back to 18th century when they used to shit on streets and used to sell their wives as a commodity and used dried human poop as medicine.
I think he is expecting more trouble so prepping forces to tackle riots & chaos that ensure. Problem is that the force might get filled with his ppl who are more loyal to president than the country.Forget what you know about the US. The very nature of the US has began to change :
Trump Order Deepens National Guard’s Role in US Law Enforcement
The order requires Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to create a specialized unit within the D.C. National Guard “dedicated to ensuring public safety and order in the nation's capital.”
The National Guard’s role in law enforcement throughout the country could expand under an executive order signed by President Donald Trump on Monday.
The order requires Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to create a specialized unit within the D.C. National Guard “dedicated to ensuring public safety and order in the nation's capital.”
Hegseth also is charged with establishing “a standing National Guard quick reaction force that shall be resourced, trained and available for rapid nationwide deployment.”
The Pentagon did not immediately have more details on its plans to implement the executive order, saying in an emailed statement Monday afternoon only that it is “reviewing the order and its specific requirements” and “will provide updates or announcements as appropriate.”
It also did not answer a question on how the quick reaction force would differ from the current National Guard Reaction Force, which draws from existing units to respond to emergencies within eight hours.
The executive action comes as Trump has threatened to replicate the National Guard deployments he’s ordered in Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles in other Democratic-run cities, and would represent a major escalation in his use of the military to exact political retribution.
About 2,000 Guardsmen, more than half of whom were sent from out of town by Republican governors, are patrolling D.C. right now. Trump has cast the deployment as necessary to combat rampant crime, but local and federal statistics show violent crime in D.C. is at a 30-year low.
The Guardsmen, some of whom are now armed, are mostly patrolling low-crime tourist areas. They are also preparing to essentially perform community service, such as trash cleanup.
The D.C. deployment came after Trump ordered about 4,000 Guardsmen and 700 Marines to mobilize in Los Angeles earlier this summer in response to protests against his administration’s aggressive immigration raids. Contrary to the administration’s depictions of Los Angeles as consumed by violent rioters, the protests were mostly peaceful and confined to a few blocks downtown.
In recent days, Trump has made clear he plans to expand those types of deployments throughout the country. He has singled out Chicago and New York City, and on Sunday, also threatened to target Baltimore.
“We’re ready to go anywhere,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office during Monday’s executive order signing when asked whether he’s preparing to deploy troops to Chicago.
Trump can unilaterally deploy the National Guard in Washington, D.C., since the district is not a state. But in other jurisdictions, he may be faced with a complex web of legal authorities. For example, the Los Angeles deployment sparked a lawsuit by California officials arguing Trump usurped states’ rights.
Still, Monday’s executive order suggests he is preparing for more widespread Guard deployments.
In addition to creating a standing quick reaction force, the order tasks Hegseth with ensuring Guardsmen across the country are prepared to assist law enforcement with “quelling civil disturbances and ensuring the public safety and order whenever the circumstances necessitate.” Hegseth must also designate “an appropriate number of each state's trained National Guard members to be reasonably available for rapid mobilization” to help law enforcement, the order says.
In the specialized law enforcement unit in the D.C. National Guard, the Guardsmen will be deputized to “enforce federal law,” according to the order.
Hina Shamsi, director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s National Security Project, called Trump’s threats to expand military deployments “unjustified and dangerous.”
“President Trump’s escalating threats directly undermine our foundational value that the military should not be policing civilians, create legal jeopardy for service members and federal agents, and put regular people going about their lives at high risk of having their rights violated,” Shamsi said in a statement Monday. “Governors and other state and local leaders must stay strong and take all lawful measures to protect their residents against the president’s repeated attempts to intimidate us.”
With all due respect if that was the case, North Korea would've been destroyed long ago and its 1000x weaker than India in all domains. US will never wage war against a nuclear state. ISI hid Osama and America didnt punish it at all for the same reason.
If such a nightmare scenario happens, we must also conduct nuclear tests, specifically a 1-2 megaton hydrogen test and remove NFU. Because the IAF will be facing a crisis due to Tejas being grounded from lack of engines. So we will have to rely on the nuclear forces to keep China at bay.
North Korea isn't an economic power though like India. They see India as a threat to their global economic hegemony and a nation that very well could bring about a new world order(by replacing USD with BRICS currency).
PS: Guys, the situation between India and US is very serious. All bets are off about what the future holds.
hmm, there is lot of back ground maneuvering taking place. US will normalize relations with russia.
Yeah they are trying to improve their relationship with China. So they are throwing India under the bus. It was bound to happen one day. Atleast it happened sooner than later. We should be glad we got the wake up call early. I hope our adminstration keep our relationship with US in a more transactional domain from now.
Anyways George Friedman vomits a lot of bs. He used to say similar stuff about China back in 2010. Infact he even claimed China will disintegrate because of internal conflict back then and US somehow will become unipolar world power again. Guy has a history of downplaying Asian powers. So take his view with a huge spoon of salt. Although, he is right in guessing how USA veiws us.
The US under DT is trying to yank Russia out of China's grip. This is a foriegn policy objective Trump has been talking about since his election campaign. The sooner, the better. Sanctions on India will no longer be justifiable for the US. Otoh, India won't have to rely on Chinese investments as much.