Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

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Don't bother engaging with them. The trouble is, the Pakistani and Chinese governments and military establishments are aware of what actually happened. The report by Quwa is worrying, and it shows Pakistans elite know the reality. An enemy which knows the reality will make efforts to correct their mistakes.
I usually never bother to engage this chap. I have done twice on both accounts I showed how this chap runs in circle writing rehearsed speeches. However, how can I miss the chance to take a swipe when it comes to propaganda. These morons have been doing it since eons. Their own folks are flabbergasted when asked about it abroad. Apparently, the rest of the world does okay and China is definitely progressing. It has done absolute stellar work for its infrastructure as well as military modernization. However, it is not what the US was in the late 90s, the absolute pole of this world.
Dude you're posting reddit? Seriously. Disappointing.
 
I usually never bother to engage this chap. I have done twice on both accounts I showed how this chap runs in circle writing rehearsed speeches. However, how can I miss the chance to take a swipe when it comes to propaganda. These morons have been doing it since eons. Their own folks are flabbergasted when asked about it abroad. Apparently, the rest of the world does okay and China is definitely progressing. It has done absolute stellar work for its infrastructure as well as military modernization. However, it is not what the US was in the late 90s, the absolute pole of this world.

Dude you're posting reddit? Seriously. Disappointing.
LCD is literally a nest of cheenis jerking off to their "greatness". No wonder he posted that thread. But I wouldn't blame Chinese for sub planting a reddit space, the rest of the defence reddit spaces with far more members routinely shit on Chinese military capabilities.

And rightfully so, despite massive progress PLA is still far away from matching US military. So Americans who actually know their shit would rightfully trash Chinese arrogance.
J20 indeed poses big challenges for the IAF. But J10C? 🤣. Height of Chinese arrogance to think some copy of an Israeli jet with a third grade Chinese engine can make IAF have "nightmares ". What's next, J7 making IAF lose its sleep? Lol
 
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Nowhere did he say that Rafales are better than J20s; his only argument was against the alleged "stealth" part of J20 due to Canards being absent. Obviously, J20 is a major threat to IAF any day . On the J10C part yeah highly cooked up story about the sensor fusion kill stuf if it was that potent then PAF would have used it on the 10th as well and knocked out our aircraft that were launching Storm Shadow,Brahmos etc. Even Pakistanis are not sure whether it was PL-15 or HQ-9 that took out Indian aircrafts.
 
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India even announced in 2019 that it shot down an F-16. Is there any evidence?
The information warfare failed to deceive Pakistan and China, but instead deceived its india own people.
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India didn't even have the guts in nonsense propaganda material. write shooting down the J10C . It seems that the J10CE has become an indelible nightmare for the IAF.
Radar Tracks of F-16 vanishing were shown by the IAF and then again Pakistani DG ISPR claimed "DUSRA BANDA IS ADMITTED IN CMH" beyond that multiple local accounts show that two parachutes were visible in POK. Given the amount of propaganda done wrt J10C it's a shame that nobody is buying it other than your sole test bed Paxtan .
 
Is this part of the information war ?
There are at least four confirmed wreckages.
Rafale, Su-30, Mirage 2000, Mig29
Except for the Tejas, all IAF fighters were shot down.
Doesn't the J10C pose a serious threat to the IAF?
Is it the Death Star that poses a threat to the IAF?
Where does Even su30mki came for?

And We know that IAF was working with restriction on 6th and 7th may,
And as per the PAF kill tactics, which became vanished on the 9th & 10th may,
When somebody is striking your nuclear weapons facility & HDBT site's,
Then you are in deep trouble,
I wonder what stopped PAF from intercepting IAF which were striking kirana hills?
 
not serious. Destroy Karachi and India will have to face to a nuclear answer, for sure.
Not really. Cause on nuclear launch results in destruction of Pakistan not limited to karachi.

These warmongering radicals can only influence other people to die. Not risk themselves. Even if they leave before strikes, they will be hunted down.

Note: This is in response to the idea that a conventional attack on karach brings nuclear into fora more than the usual pakistani assertion of using nukes.
Doesn't consider the wider war scenario. And any attack on karachi will mean that Pakistani once again did a big misadventure to harm India and Indians. If rahul and his circle is removed.. our political will is mostly sensible that it doesn't attack unless absolutely needed or provoked.

Rahul is doing paks work.. testing the limit of Modis boldness against pak. Ignoring the pit he is setting up for himself.
 
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And we didn't even fire a single air-to-air missile at them, let alone tactical ballistic missiles or even rocket artillery which they fired at us with limited success and yet they begged for ceasefire. They can't saturate our air defences even if they empty their stockpile on us, and this is when our air defences are not even that dense as they will be in coming future, but how many of ours will they intercept if we ever were to fire at them? A reminder that their biggest cities including islamabad are within our MBRL and TBM range and a single salvo will be enough to saturate them, and we have a far larger stockpile and production capacity that is far beyond their imagination of every type of offensive and defensive weapons system.

Just because pakistanis think "we won because we're alive, we survived, we're winners" doesn't mean India can't flatten them like Gaza if we want to. It's just that we never really went ahead on a full scale war to jeopardise our economic growth and it's future over a worthless bankrupt banana republic, but that doesn't mean we can't steamroll them when we want to. We steamrolled both their flanks in less than 2 weeks and forced them to surrender when they had the most modern weapons the Americans could give them apart from tonnes of dollars, and the gap between us and them wasn't as high as it is today with us spending only 1.85% of GDP on defence.

With their shallow insolvent economy, they're struggling to maintain whatever numbers are left with them since Uncle Sam has given off his support to their beloved concubine. While Indian Military is expanding in both numbers and capability. Good luck to all delusional wumaos and lahoris to think they can "defeat India".
not serious. Destroy Karachi and India will have to face to a nuclear answer, for sure.
With what? Their nuclear deterrents consist of old ballistic missile and subsonic cruise missiles. Would've taken their threats seriously if they had larger yield systems and hypersonic glide vehicles.

Simply: If they fire a nuke at us, most likely it will get intercepted by our BMDs, but if we fire a nuke at them, they can't intercept it even if they want to.

Nuclear weapons are as good as nothing today, except for countries like Israel.
 
And we didn't even fire a single air-to-air missile at them, let alone tactical ballistic missiles or even rocket artillery which they fired at us with limited success and yet they begged for ceasefire. They can't saturate our air defences even if they empty their stockpile on us, and this is when our air defences are not even that dense as they will be in coming future, but how many of ours will they intercept if we ever were to fire at them? A reminder that their biggest cities including islamabad are within our MBRL and TBM range and a single salvo will be enough to saturate them, and we have a far larger stockpile and production capacity far beyond their imagination of every type of offensive and defensive weapons system.

Just because pakistanis think "we won because we're alive, we survived, we're winners" doesn't mean India can't flatten them like Gaza if we want to. It's just that we never really went ahead on a full scale war to jeopardise our economic growth and it's future over a worthless bankrupt banana republic, but that doesn't mean we can't steamroll them when we want to. We steamrolled both their flanks in less than 2 weeks and forced them to surrender when they had the most modern weapons the Americans could give them apart from tonnes of dollars, and the gap between us and them wasn't as high as it is today with us spending only 1.85% of GDP on defence.

With their shallow insolvent economy, they're struggling to maintain whatever numbers are left with them since Uncle Sam has given off his support to their beloved concubine. While Indian Military is expanding in both numbers and capability. Good luck to all delusional wumaos and lahoris to think they can "defeat India".
It's the insurgency like in Afghanistan border that India doesn't want, hence remains shy of launching any major counter offensive at large scale. Cause it's hard to kill each and every radical.

That's why it's good to increase border security, robust grids, counter terrorism and counter insurgency operations, shielding domestic population from malicious intents of 2.5 enemy. With technology, human based intrusion and insurgency have potential to be stopped in coming decades.

But let's see. By no means that it should deter india from increasing the cost of misadventure for pak and chin both. And if it's necessary or inevitable then war it is. Try to prevent war, not run away from it. Which UPA failed at
 
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The Lawhorees cannot fight wars conventionally and our comrades do all the fighting in the press and on the internet. Bring logic and rationality to argue with them? They'll drag you down with them.
Yeah in their delulu world they can respond with 10 missiles for every Indian one. They can shoot down entire IAF as if it's a video game and other services would be having popcorn.

Their navy knows their surface ships are just target practice for Indian super/hypersonic missiles and their submarines are target practice for Indian submarine hunting aircrafts. They just exist as a formality as anyway much of their assets remain under repairs and rest don't have much credible offensive capabilities.

Their air force knows they'll have to retire 200+ jets coming decade and J-35s will only worsen their financial burden. They know every square inch of their air bases can be struct whenever India wants. They'll be stuck with chinese engines with low MTBOs and availability with whatever they are left with.

Their army knows their attack helicopter fleet which once used to be bigger than India not too long ago is now reduced to single digits. Their tanks are extremely obsolete and they don't have any credible air defence depth against 300+ Indian attack helicopter fleet and UCAVs apart from our much superior tank and AFV fleet.


This btw is fiction for lahoris, they'll laugh on this calling us delusional but this is their reality. We can replace our old systems and expand our numbers by ourselves or imports of much better quality and quantity while they'll be stuck with museum pieces in the future and I'm talking of just next 10-15 years only, beyond that they're nil in front of us.
 
Please , My Dear Fellow INDIANS

Stop engaging Chinese Trolls

Let them claim any BS they want

False and Foolish statements does NOT change ground realities

IAF is a professional force

We know that they will Imbibe the Right lessons and will Again give a Proper Hammering to the Enemies

If we start ignoring the Chinese and Pakistani trolls , they will disappear
 
Back to the topic, I can only say that it is India's tragedy that the IAF holds joint military exercises with countless countries, but no country tells them what modern air combat is like.
They thought that by buying a few expensive foreign trade fighters from France, they could suppress the Chinese Air Force.
But have they seen dogfights between 4.5 generation aircraft? No.
Have they seen aerial offensive operations accompanied by EA-18G and EC-37? No.
Have they seen the revolutionary impact that the fifth-generation aircraft will bring to air combat? No
But they are still arrogant and think that the PLAAF is a group of cowards with no actual combat experience.
IAF is the great knight of the sky,
But, sorry, times have changed.
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But IAF bombed Thier every targets successfully even without conducting a single SEAD/DEAD missions prior to enemy having intelligence of the upcoming attack, yeah the suffered loss way back but that didn't hindered Thier missions, and yet they successfully adapated and conducted SEAD/DEAD missions the next day, and again sucessfuly hit all the targets given all the length & breadth of the adversary the attack only stopped due to other side asked for ceasefire,
 
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To those who wonder why we are not declaring the own losses (if any) during op Sindoor...This ambiguity is good in military aspects... This ambiguity disallows your adversaries (including Chinese and uncle Sam) to assess their effectiveness/ineffectiveness or our effectiveness especially on defence ..... While it may have an impact on our minds or on our narratives, it is very effective strategy to our op sec....
 
To those who wonder why we are not declaring the own losses (if any) during op Sindoor...This ambiguity is good in military aspects... This ambiguity disallows your adversaries (including Chinese and uncle Sam) to assess their effectiveness/ineffectiveness or our effectiveness especially on defence ..... While it may have an impact on our minds or on our narratives, it is very effective strategy to our op sec....

Next week Parliamentary Debate might get us some details especially since the opposition is shouting about Trump's claims

Or 15 th August might see Some Official Declaration of Gallantry Awards
 
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Next week Parliamentary Debate might get us some details especially since the opposition is shouting about Trump's claims

Or 15 th August might see Some Official Declaration of Gallantry Awards
Op Sindoor will be studied by militaries across the world for its effectiveness..... Barring the usual Pakistani claims and their PR driven news, the real military folks do not go by what claimed or what not claimed....

The analysis will be, how a country attacked somany locations with such precisions without collateral damage .....

The air conflict post that attack was something which will be recorded in history ..... Probably the largest air battle ever ( in terms of no of birds involved ) ...
 
Please , My Dear Fellow INDIANS

Stop engaging Chinese Trolls

Let them claim any BS they want

False and Foolish statements does NOT change ground realities

IAF is a professional force

We know that they will Imbibe the Right lessons and will Again give a Proper Hammering to the Enemies

If we start ignoring the Chinese and Pakistani trolls , they will disappear
I don't know why these people are not banned from the forum straight away. They have nothing useful to contribute and are always trying to derail the thread with their own agenda. Any Indian trying such stuff on Chinese forums will be removed straight away and permanently.
 
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