This is essentially a matter of operational effectiveness. If on May 7th the Rafale fighter shot down the J-10C, then all the praise for the Rafale on the Indian forums would be taken very seriously.But the fact is quite the contrary.This is similar to the S400 system in Ukraine. Multiple losses have led to widespread doubts about the operational effectiveness of the S400.
Air Engagement of Operation Sindoor : Analysis
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But somehow there are no doubts about the abomination called HQ-9 after its humiliating failure, Interesting.
If Indians could produce video footage or satellite images showing the destruction of the HQ9 missile site in the same manner as Ukraine destroyed the S400/S300, then both the Pakistanis and the Chinese would doubt the combat effectiveness of the HQ9.
So HQ9 is a very successful system, right? Indians accept HQ9, LY series and all the radars wiht PAF are good. All your systems are bad. Rafale bad, S400 bad, MKI bad. There I simplified it for you. The Pakistanis in Lahore are all happy and Indians in Delhi are sad. There I set everything in place. Yay!!!
Didnt you just post so called picture of SCALP missile intercept as proof. Do you have video of intercept to verify?. How about crash footage of rafale?.
Ukraine has been a free-for-all conflict going on for years with no clear boundaries. You can't get footage like that for every conflict. The best you can have is third-party satellite images, which we even have from Chinese sources.
Dont be such are obvious moron like every other pakistani.
Yeah , thats why they purchased S400.
Precisely. I am waiting for the PLAN and PLAAF to start countering the ISAF and USAF over the Persian Gulf anytime. After all as per our Chinese friend they are all locked and loaded ready for world domination.
Of course, I wouldn't be so foolish as to post it again. The video or photo of the Indian Rafale fighter jet being shot down. I was banned from posting for a month last time because I did something like that.
Since you don't have clear photos or video evidence, it will be very difficult for you to convince others of your claims.
There is such a slogan on the Chinese aircraft carrier. War will tear away all false facades.
Whether it's the S400 or the H9, war is the best measure to test everything.
You posted obvious fake video and you know it. Thats your standard. Not even pakistanis are claiming shot down footage of Rafale which happend inside india. This is some new level of BS.
Is that why communist party never go to war? So afraid of USA. Living in a pond made by them.
The century of humiliation continues.
I have stopped engaging this troll. I do not understand why he keeps returning to this forum after the ban lapses. Much of the Pakistani social media and CCP media is already there to do propaganda for him. Ask him what he is doing for Iran and he will make excuses to the Moon and back. Now you know why GCC trusts NATO more than these morons.
He constantly derails threads with irrelevant comments and has a habit of inserting himself into discussions he clearly knows very little about. People like me, who may not be well-versed in certain topics, usually just read and observe when something is new to us. But he seems compelled to weigh in regardless. Sometimes I wonder if he’s getting paid for this — especially given how often he pushes absurd chinese propaganda here. Then again, defence forums are pretty niche, so it’s hard to see what he hopes to achieve with this behaviour..
There is a phenomenon in Indian forums that they do not believe anything released by China, even if they are official news.
This leads to the fact that they actually have no understanding of China. Just like this time's Pl15, the United States publicly stated a few years ago that Pl17+Kj500 is a serious threat.
But the Indians still don't believe it.Think the Pl15 is just a inferior AIM120
They didn't even think about the range of China's PL15 is ≥145Km, not ≤
I am getting more and more bullish on MWF. I think it can substitute Rafale and MKI in many role. @Rajput Lion , Bro. you had compared MWF with Rafale and I had countered it by saying that evenif it performs 70% of Rafale, I shall be very happy. However, with new Information regarding its AI capabilities and other is surfacing, I am compelled to admit that what you were saying was right. Even IAF chief said that both the aircrafts are almost equal in performance. Hats off to you.
The MWF will be able to do everything the rafale can do and most likely will have superior EW. It will be superior to the gripenE.
EW can not be batter than SPACTRA. However, if it turns out to be true, I will give you a party. If it turns out to be batter than Gripen E, it will be the leader in its class. I have always advocated frontal stealth, Kaveri with 75/110 engine and it will be a super MWF.
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Spectra just failed in OP Sindoor. Let's be real. Spectra isn't as impressive as members here claimed.
The spectra has three MAWS. The MWF will have 6 MAWS sensors. There's no comparison.
The rafale needs to be mass produced upwards of 300 in India and we need the source codes atleast.
MK2 is going to be better than Rafale F3R-I in all aspects except kinematics(speed, acceleration, climb rate, sustained turn rate etc.) because of lower TtW ratio due to it being single-engined jet. As I keep on saying, this jet is going to be our panacea for all our depleting squadron problems. FFS, just get the engine deal signed and move quickly on it.