Yea I dont think US or even China would give Porks like 10 megaton weapon dude
. They certainly don't have the capability to make such a weapon by themselves.Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan
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. They certainly don't have the capability to make such a weapon by themselves.
As long as PA receives enough water for their golf courses, nothing will happen.
This is actually a mistake that people make without looking into it further.
The IMF board was not ready to stop the IMF money flow because Pakistan actually met the preconditions. They completely stopped the MSP, started taxing farmers, and increased power tariffs, etc. Pakistani economy is in the right path according to IMF. They didn't have a reason to stop the money because of external allegations like funding terrorism. That's not a parameter to decide; we don't have enough power in the IMF to influence. India abstained because that vote didn't matter.
Only the US can unilaterally do such a thing; no one else can. It's not that the USA is helping pakistan; they just don't care.
LIkely few Scalp-EGs were intercepted but intercepting BrahMos-A was beyond Pak ADS' capability. They got pounded very bad this time around and they know it. Will they admit it though? Nope. Not in their culture to accept and admit defeat. So no point arguing with people like these, IMO.
Former resident chicom was saying how PLA uses AWACS to detect low flying cruise missiles and connects with their AD to engage and guide them. Even if China possesses such a capability I'm guessing it's still almost impossible to shoot down even most of a Brahmos salvo?
A strike package that is cleverly timed and used in conjunction with other multiple capabilities will present a "challenging scenario". No AD in the world is equipped to handle every threat (Hype put aside - the have chances in terms of percentages for each aerial threat). Hence, the buzzword "Layering". The Layer has so far proved inadequate so you're mostly correct (the Layer in its current form deployed in Pakistan). We still do not have a real world test of a chinese designed, deployed, and maintained AD Layer(s). Unless the PLAF directly maintains PAF AD networks.
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There is no proof of Scalp interceptions by porkee..... The one photo out there show intact Scalp broken due to ground impact but still in somewhat perfect condition...... In all likely crashed due to malfunction.
The story floated is that there were "soft kills" used against Indian ALCMs. The veracity of this is currently unknown and will likely be in that state perhaps forever.
Russia intercepted the majority of Storm shadow/Scalp missiles fired by Ukraine - there are reasonably credible figures.
However, Russia has more time to prepare (they know when the aircraft takes off) and a better AD than Pak (Plantsir, then S-300 or 400).
That said, I'd except Pak to intercept some Scalp, but have lower success against the faster Brahmos.
Our DM gave an open threat, if you have spine give provocation.You have a point. But let's leave it as it is.
I will join you guys in some other discussions.
Alright you shot down 12 not 6 Indian air assets accepted, even you hit India at their airbases and destroyed all radar systems okay accepted? Are you getting the Indus water, you won the war then you should be dictating the terms right?
Again a crap load of BS form you, if you were following russia Ukraine war, you would have known by now the reason for absymal performance of Russian AD unit's, is the lack of modernise layered air defence systems is one of the key reasons for such performance of Russian AD systems, on the other hand nato has NATINAMDS and Indian have IACCS, which is absent in the russian case,
Despite having S400, S300, S350, S125, pantsir, Shilka, tungskha, oska, kub, these system are not integrated with each other to one command centre, with the lack of interoperability & integration the AD unit's act as independently, due to which They lack situational awareness and real time air situation picture, often making them victim to Ukrainian attack,
Even now the Russians are developing Thier own integrated Air defence & missile command & control system as per the air defence modernization strategy announced in January 2025, unlike it's counterparts both nato & india operates integrated air defence & missile command and control system, which gives them an edge, where every AD systems can feed Data to eachother,
Also here unlike Russia, Pakistan wasn't protecting a large swath of areas, Pakistan AD Job was to protect a smaller areas, if you were unable to protect your nuclear weapon storage facility, key major airbases, and GHQ's, to small scale retaliatory strikes, then you have serious flaws in your AD systems, you just can't escape with stating it has a limited AD systems, when there was no large scale saturation attacks,
Dude still They haven't repaired the some of the runways yet, the sargodha air base was still ongoing repair at one junction and another one they didn't even have touched it on may 12, that's more than 48 hours, even if you let the enemy give a 12 hour window period or 8/10 you are a dead man, the second strikes doesn't take too long to do Even more damages, now it doesn't take 50 missiles to destroy reinforcement bunkers, orshenik demonstrated it, how a single missile can do a significant damage and how Deep it can penetrate, the high speed missile have greater kinetic energy, it doesn't need 50 missiles, and stop creating your imaginary conversation of f15ex, typhoon, pac 3
Power.
Another stupid af narrative gulped hook line and sinker by the little ones.
Your Army keeps talking about this boogey of India and waters in Pakistan. India cannot, and will not stop/divert flow of water to Pakistan.
Pakistan Army's primary goal has, is and always will be to remain in power, it's real adversary is Pakistani institutions, not India. It will do everything in it's power to keep that boot on Pakistani awams neck.
Narkagni saheb's brain works on a level I cannot fathom. Something might have been brewing.Main agenda is doing “Business”
But on a serious note, there seems to be a growing murmur (like our champ on the west said, on SM) that Pak citizens are realising that their rear was kicked really hard and that Pak army did squat in return. Add to this the fact that IWT is still in abeyance. Given how an average Pakistani brain works, the “idea of revenge” will most likely crop up.
I could be wrong about this, but given what hellfire posted about the status, something did happen in the background.