Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

[South block]

Has it been combat-proven in this conflict? Most of the intercepts India showed were of Turkish drones, and no debris from any Chinese air-to-ground missiles was shown.
While Indians are madly slandering Chinese missiles, Pakistan at least displayed the wreckage of several Storm Shadow and BrahMos missiles.
As for ramjet engines, that was a technology that countries abandoned for use in air-to-air missiles in the 1970s. Of course, India has now decided to give up on it too.

Wreckage ? What wreckage ? ..... Zero Brahmos was intercepted & one scalp failed due to malfunction.... Mighty Chinese CM 400AKG turned out to be a massive dud couldn't hit anything & one even got intercepted...... HQ 9 failed, PL-15 failed, CM 400AKG failed .....Muha mighty Chong ding dong tech

 

[randomradio]

Has it been combat-proven in this conflict? Most of the intercepts India showed were of Turkish drones, and no debris from any Chinese air-to-ground missiles was shown.

Yes, it has been used in significant numbers. We don't have a list of all the targets it's taken out.

While Indians are madly slandering Chinese missiles, Pakistan at least displayed the wreckage of several Storm Shadow and BrahMos missiles.

IAF will provide BDA at a later date.

As for ramjet engines, that was a technology that countries abandoned for use in air-to-air missiles in the 1970s. Of course, India has now decided to give up on it too.

Maybe so, due to expense, but the system works.

Philippines is deploying it against China, so they obviously think it's good enough. Vietnam has also shown interest.

 

[randomradio]

When India fantasizes about aiding a developed industrial region whose per capita GDP is 15 times that of its own, it should first turn its PPT into reality.
Taiwan's own Strongbow missile is becoming a reality (Taiwanese version of HQ19), while India's are just models at the air show

Thank you for the advice, but China was more successful as a weapons exporter when poor than today.

India's BMD was deployed years ago.

 

[LX1111]

Yes, it has been used in significant numbers. We don't have a list of all the targets it's taken out.



IAF will provide BDA at a later date.



Maybe so, due to expense, but the system works.

Philippines is deploying it against China, so they obviously think it's good enough. Vietnam has also shown interest.

There is no video or photo evidence to prove that India intercepted Chinese missiles, right?

 

[LX1111]

Maybe so, due to expense, but the system works.

Philippines is deploying it against China, so they obviously think it's good enough. Vietnam has also shown interest.

I may have misunderstood what I meant. I meant the ramjet engines on anti-aircraft missiles, such as the SAM-6 or the English Electric Thunderbird.

 

[Zarion]

There is no video or photo evidence to prove that India intercepted Chinese missiles, right?

Even if there was a video how would we prove whether it's Chinese or not?

 

[randomradio]

There is no video or photo evidence to prove that India intercepted Chinese missiles, right?

With the exception of sat images and night firing on drones, everything else has only been speculations.

We are waiting for IAF assessments, which they said will come with proof.

 

[LX1111]

Even if there was a video how would we prove whether it's Chinese or not?

I saw that most of the photos released by the Indian authorities were of this type of Turkish drone. I did not see any other photos of the wreckage.

 

[randomradio]

I may have misunderstood what I meant. I meant the ramjet engines on anti-aircraft missiles, such as the SAM-6 or the English Electric Thunderbird.
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So? Many countries that are under serious threat of war have chosen Akash.

 

[Rajput Lion]

Sadly, that means only option is to get F-35, which I hate now because Trump administration is a bunch of cuckoos and next government is going to be even more cuckoo, just on left side of political spectrum...

I wonder what India was doing all these years.

Wait for some time, people will realize that Su-57 (or its derivative) isn't just a necessity for IAF but it's going to be our saviour. Give it some time to sink.

 

[Zarion]

There is no video or photo evidence to prove that India intercepted Chinese missiles, right?

With the exception of sat images and night firing on drones, everything else has only been speculations.

We are waiting for IAF assessments, which they said will come with proof.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1920936370723320299

At most there is an interception video of a missile in Sirsa. Ignore the tweet itself, the tweet is pretty dumb.

 

[Hydra]

It hasn't yet achieved FOC.

Does it matters? F35 had destroyed Iranian airdefence without getting caught,including s300.
What matters is that non FOC F35 can do similar things over China or Pakistan or not, i believe it can do. And it can eat as many j35 as possible in air combat,j20 too.

Our immediate threat is J35 and we don't have any other answer other than f35. Pakistan will aveng the humiliation with j35 if we didn't procure f35 during similar timeline.

 

[LX1111]

Wreckage ? What wreckage ? ..... Zero Brahmos was intercepted & one scalp failed due to malfunction.... Mighty Chinese CM 400AKG turned out to be a massive dud couldn't hit anything & one even got intercepted...... HQ 9 failed, PL-15 failed, CM 400AKG failed .....Muha mighty Chong ding dong tech

In this case, I usually give a thumbs up.

 

[Hydra]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1923972788404224263

 

[South block]

In this case, I usually give a thumbs up.

You can take that thumbs up your own a**

 

[randomradio]

Well, I remembered wrongly, India did complete the first phase of BMD,
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However, I think Taiwan will not be too interested in this kind of air defense weapon modified from ballistic missiles, especially since it has already equipped PAC-3MSE on a large scale.

We won't be exporting it anyway.

 

[Zarion]

I saw that most of the photos released by the Indian authorities were of this type of Turkish drone. I did not see any other photos of the wreckage.
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Drone wreckages are from the army, Air Defence is carried out by IAF and they haven't released anything yet. My point was how will anyone be able to tell whether a missile is Pakistani or Chinese from a video? You'll need the wreckage and that is with the forces.

 

[Parthu]

They have offered MKI-level ToT. I think these concerns were exaggerated 'cause the Russians were developing a Russia-specific version at the time.

We were being asked to invest in a platform still under development, if that only gets us MKI-type ToT (modification of existing, proven Flanker) you can see why that would be a problem.

We don't have a "5th gen" answer to the J-35. My posts to Saaho should make my view clear. Post 3266 and 3269.

Anyway, PAF needs a J-35, we don't need an equivalent yet.

We do need a J-35 equivalent in the 2030s.

If 4.5G jets were enough to tackle PLAAF+PAF, we wouldn't bother with developing AMCA.

We'd just create a technology-insertion program for Tejas Mk2 & MKI/Rafale where we implement 5th & 5.5G techs while jumping straight to 6G platform, which is what the French are doing.

But we're not going down that path - we want a LO airframe to enter service at least a decade before the French 6G is operational. That means we're aiming for a J-35 equivalent jet.

 

[randomradio]

Does it matters? F35 had destroyed Iranian airdefence without getting caught,including s300.
What matters is that non FOC F35 can do similar things over China or Pakistan or not, i believe it can do. And it can eat as many j35 as possible in air combat,j20 too.

Our immediate threat is J35 and we don't have any other answer other than f35. Pakistan will aveng the humiliation with j35 if we didn't procure f35 during similar timeline.

And we completely wiped out PAF's more advanced ADS without F-35s.

We need jets that can fight China's J-20 and 6th gen fighters, not Iran.

Our immediate threat is J-20. And even against J-20 the IAF did not change their plan. So why are you so worried about the J-35?

Anyway, Israel's F-35s did not penetrate Iran's ADS. They used standoff weapons.

 

[Hydra]

And we completely wiped out PAF's more advanced ADS without F-35s.

PAF could have done that to usif they had j35.