Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

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Pakistan Air force has around 60 F-16's , 150 JF-17's and 20 J-10's . These are not small numbers right ! Why they are not able to successfully penetrate Indian Air space and hit targets across Indian airbases and military installations. Aren't these numbers enough for them to target? Last time during Balakot, I think they launched attack with around 50 aircraft formation. They can do that again right! Why are they scared of S-400 ? If the attack comprises of around 50 jets, how many jets a S-400 can intercept ?

There are members in this forum who have military experience. Imagine you guys are at helm of affairs and How would you guys handle this scenario? What will be your strategy to overcome Indian air defences ?

Note : I am looking for serious answer.
I'd use Ukraine style SEAD/DEAD before anything.

Send drones and fire ATACMS/artillery at radars.

Drones solve the search part of search and destroy. The destroy part is easy.
 
What kind of joke is this, in the morning the Pakistanis decide to retaliate and in the evening they want de-escalation. I think this is some kind of strategy and India should be very careful, the mistake done by Prithiviraj Chauhan should be avoided.
 
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What kind of joke is this, in the morning the Pakistanis decide to retaliate and in the evening they want de-escalation. I think this is some kind of strategy and India should be very careful, the mistake done by Prithiviraj Chauhan should be avoided.
I think Pakistan is a complete distraction.

India's economy is 4 trillion compared to Pakistans 300 billion. They're literally going to be bankrupt for the next 2 decades. The military has complete political control over their country. Don't think economics will improve much.

Strategic patience/not overreacting like America did after 9/11 would serve India well imo.

Sure their military is kinda competitive thanks to China, but that won't last. That's why I think India should go for economic dmg rather than terrorists or military targets.
 
Pakistan Air force has around 60 F-16's , 150 JF-17's and 20 J-10's . These are not small numbers right ! Why they are not able to successfully penetrate Indian Air space and hit targets across Indian airbases and military installations. Aren't these numbers enough for them to target? Last time during Balakot, I think they launched attack with around 50 aircraft formation. They can do that again right! Why are they scared of S-400 ? If the attack comprises of around 50 jets, how many jets a S-400 can intercept ?

There are members in this forum who have military experience. Imagine you guys are at helm of affairs and How would you guys handle this scenario? What will be your strategy to overcome Indian air defences ?

Note : I am looking for serious answer.

The Indo Pak airspace is one of the most heavily defended air spaces. Penetrating means running risk of losses. In a serious 3-5 air campaign PAF runs the risk of losing at least 10 aircraft a day if tries to REALLY engage. Who wants the task of rebuilding the Airforce? Who foots the bill?

Pak knows new F-16s are a long shot, its not entirely comfortable putting all its eggs in Chinese baskets.

Finally all diversions come at a cost. The opium of Best Army Best Airforce that kept the public in check while the Military milked the country dry means if there is a loss (even in public opinion - loss of more planes even if objectives met) - the public will never let the military settle again.

Pak military is committed to the survival of Pakistan ONLY under the guardianship of the military. Any other scenario is not acceptable to them. 2019 standoff was the best they can do - a small skirmish scenario where a PR blind can be pulled over people's eyes. Anything longer and the cat comes out of the bag.
 
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What kind of joke is this, in the morning the Pakistanis decide to retaliate and in the evening they want de-escalation. I think this is some kind of strategy and India should be very careful, the mistake done by Prithiviraj Chauhan should be avoided.
No chance in hell they'd back down now imo. Hafiz Saeed has vowed revenge in a video after his family was killed. It probably was intended to leave no way out for the Pak govt. And Asim Munir is probably licking his wounds after 2 days of whacking by IAF drones and jets.
 
The war has escalated, bigger things are happening now for anybody to worry about 1 or 2 jets. PAF has lost a lot of jets since last night. Their main offensive was also stopped last night. Now the IAF has moved on to SEAD/DEAD.
Full fledged war will be there?
 
Pakistan Air force has around 60 F-16's , 150 JF-17's and 20 J-10's . These are not small numbers right ! Why they are not able to successfully penetrate Indian Air space and hit targets across Indian airbases and military installations. Aren't these numbers enough for them to target? Last time during Balakot, I think they launched attack with around 50 aircraft formation. They can do that again right! Why are they scared of S-400 ? If the attack comprises of around 50 jets, how many jets a S-400 can intercept ?

There are members in this forum who have military experience. Imagine you guys are at helm of affairs and How would you guys handle this scenario? What will be your strategy to overcome Indian air defences ?

Note : I am looking for serious answer.
41 F16s are 80s, 13 F16s are ADFs, 3rd hand.

This means servicing issues, availability issues.

Same for JF17, the block 1 was rushed into service, problems and availability issues remain.
 
I think Pakistan is a complete distraction.

India's economy is 4 trillion compared to Pakistans 300 billion. They're literally going to be bankrupt for the next 2 decades. The military has complete political control over their country. Don't think economics will improve much.

Strategic patience/not overreacting like America did after 9/11 would serve India well imo.

Sure their military is kinda competitive thanks to China, but that won't last. That's why I think India should go for economic dmg rather than terrorists or military targets.
They already increased defence budget,18 percentage increase from last year's. So they will moernise to overcome the lacuna. We should avoid that happening,go for full fledged.
 

No dissel for tanks, no wages for soldiers. Drag this state of conflict out for a year, without pushing it into war.

Pakistan economy will fold like a deck of cards. Then India wins strategic victory for free.

An attritional economic strategy. Kicking them in the stomach will work best here imo.
 

No dissel for tanks, no wages for soldiers. Drag this state of conflict out for a year, without pushing it into war.

Pakistan economy will fold like a deck of cards. Then India wins strategic victory for free.

An attritional economic strategy. Kicking them in the stomach will work best here imo.
I am telling this again and again,this opportunity must be utilised
 
Why commit so much? Pakistan will fail without India pushing it over.

I am talking about this strategy of theirs, hours ago they were talking about escalation and within hours they want to de-escalate. But that's only their political class, army has not said anything this is why I am doubtful of their intentions. There is huge public pressure especially in Punjab mounting to retaliate.
 
I am telling this again and again,this opportunity must be utilised
Yes, but how? All out war, or massive escalation is not the answer.

I think India should be totally happy to commit to a year long skirmish. They can't afford shit. Sure India will take the economic hit, but we'll relieve ourselves of a strategic pest.

The best way to prove Pakistan's insignificance is to sustain their idiocy for a year, which is really sustainable forever.

We'll see how has more to lose.


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Really recommend this Manwha btw. I know everyone is jumped up on the situation, but it's still important for mental breaks and fun.

 
Chinese wanted to use Pakistan to destroy our growing economy , supply chain coming to India but ended up destroying their own defense export .
I hate Trump, but the urgency of signing a trade deal between India and USA to mitigate the trade war is 1000% needed.
 
Indian army should start amassing numbers at the borders putting even more pressure on the already thin logistics of pak army. Then complete SEAD and follow with a swift land invasion. It really is a golden opportunity.
I am telling this again and again,this opportunity must be utilised
Should be like the start of Russia v Ukraine. Take large chunks of land then push for international ceasefire and call it a day
 
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