Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

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The platform itself has modern avionics but, at the end of the day, it's still just a 4th gen platform. It is really the bare minimum you need to face a peer opponent. India only has 36 of them and lacks adequate AWACs support.

Against militias like the Houthis or Hamas, or even degraded powers like Syria, it is perfectly fine. Against adversaries that take modernization seriously? It's just not enough on its own.
In adequate awacs certificate,whose fault is that? They were asking for mmrca since 2001,it's 2025 now. Whose fault it is?
 
The Pakistanis have no choice but to back down.
I have a feeling they won't. The way pak dm said they won't retaliate if we don't further, its a play on the words. Instead like saying that they would respond to ours anyway but after that whatever happens is anybody's guess. Its what i think but am not sure if they can afford to
 
Those wreckage markings are on the other side.

Here you go. You can compare the two.

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You are again wrong. Pls see how Rafale has been written on actual aircraft and the pic. Rafale is written at an angle while it is flush with the fin in actual aircraft. Do you remember the fakes of finding all 4 AAMs of Mig-21 intact by Paf after Balakote.
 
In adequate awacs certificate,whose fault is that? They were asking for mmrca since 2001,it's 2025 now. Whose fault it is?
I feel like blame is murky and probably falls on a wide range of agencies/individuals between civilian government, IAF, and other bureaucrats. Ultimately, does it matter? The failure to take defense modernization seriously meant that India would always pay a higher cost in blood/treasure to ensure its strategic objectives are met. India will face the consequences from the past 20 years of procurement paralysis for the next 20 years.
 
Absolutely. We must honour him like the way Fauji Foundation honoured Capt Saurabh Kalia.
Disagree.

Interrogate him, work on him - there are quite a few means to extract information without visual damage. Harvest the information and turn him over.

Memers will do their jobs to troll the Porks, the professionals should stay in the right lane.
 
Looks like Pak wants to fold

They dont have any camps in India they can bomb
Hitting a dam will invite a harsh response from India plus the risk of flood damage to Pak
Hitting army / airforce units will climb up the escalation ladder
Hitting infra - will invite a response

Looks like Pak wont play folks - its a shame.
Munir precipitated the entire issue only to boost his & Fauji Foundation's image. You think he's going to back down after the first salvo without responding?

Ignore tweets & statements by Shahbaz Sharif & his Defence Minister Khwaja Asif. They're but glorified chaprasis in Islamabad.

Unless you've a public statement by Munir himself to the effect that there'd be no retaliation, expect one & a big one at that from Fauji Foundation for like an American defence analyst quipped about Musharraf when he took power - he's the kind who won't ask before he leaps, " why the hell should I leap? " instead he's the kind who'd leap first & then ask , "why the hell did I leap? "

Munir is cut from the same cloth.
 
They fired BVR's into our airspace. That moment itself was a military escalation. We did not want mil escalation and because of this now we will get military escalation because of our half hearted response in the air.

A visible response was given where even normal Pakistani citizens have seen their Air defense /Air force incompetency along with video proof from our side ....even in the press conference its made clear its not the end and there will be response if Pakistan try further ....when we are aiming to be a 3rd largest economy , getting supply chain from China we need to balance both the response and escalation ladder carefully so the larger goal of India becoming a developed country is not affected ....government has to walk the tight rope and they did a decent job , lets not make even a good success looks like a failure
 
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Munir precipitated the entire issue only to boost his & Fauji Foundation's image. You think he's going to back down after the first salvo without responding?

Ignore tweets & statements by Shahbaz Sharif & his Defence Minister Khwaja Asif. They're but glorified chaprasis in Islamabad.

Unless you've a public statement by Munir himself to the effect that there'd be no retaliation, expect one & a big one at that from Fauji Foundation for like an American defence analyst quipped about Musharraf when he took power - he's the kind who won't ask before he leaps, " why the hell should I leap? " instead he's the kind who'd leap first & then ask , "why the hell did I leap? "

Munir is cut from the same cloth.

You do know they will be cooked if they retaliate. You are asking them to go on a suicidal trip. Are they that stupid? We will find out soon
 
I feel like blame is murky and probably falls on a wide range of agencies/individuals between civilian government, IAF, and other bureaucrats. Ultimately, does it matter? The failure to take defense modernization seriously meant that India would always pay a higher cost in blood/treasure to ensure its strategic objectives are met. India will face the consequences from the past 20 years of procurement paralysis for the next 20 years.
Here is the problem.....

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What a fake we have fallen to. Check out the location of Indian Tricolour, start point of penant number. Same is true about the engine as well. That engine does not shw anykind of turbines with it. Bhatinda airbase is home to LORA missiles as well and LORA has lots of fins in its booster. It seems that a fallen booster of LORA has been deep faked to change its rear to resemble the Con-Di nozzles of the M88-4 engine. Plus other than these two pics there is nothing available to show the second engine or the fuselage of the aircraft. Even the size of Men around the so called engine and the actual size of M88-4 engine do not match up.
Hope this is true. But sorry Sir this news exists for a reason
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Hope you are proven right though.
 
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