Yep, that looks a little photoshop at play to be honest. I could be wrong.
I expect Pakistan to retaliate tonight and just after that there will be no Pak Navy, No Karachi Harbour and no PAF. Instructions are given to Armed forces to not wait for orders and escalate to all out war.
In adequate awacs certificate,whose fault is that? They were asking for mmrca since 2001,it's 2025 now. Whose fault it is?The platform itself has modern avionics but, at the end of the day, it's still just a 4th gen platform. It is really the bare minimum you need to face a peer opponent. India only has 36 of them and lacks adequate AWACs support.
Against militias like the Houthis or Hamas, or even degraded powers like Syria, it is perfectly fine. Against adversaries that take modernization seriously? It's just not enough on its own.
I have a feeling they won't. The way pak dm said they won't retaliate if we don't further, its a play on the words. Instead like saying that they would respond to ours anyway but after that whatever happens is anybody's guess. Its what i think but am not sure if they can afford toThe Pakistanis have no choice but to back down.
You are again wrong. Pls see how Rafale has been written on actual aircraft and the pic. Rafale is written at an angle while it is flush with the fin in actual aircraft. Do you remember the fakes of finding all 4 AAMs of Mig-21 intact by Paf after Balakote.Those wreckage markings are on the other side.
Here you go. You can compare the two.
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Absolutely. We must honour him like the way Fauji Foundation honoured Capt Saurabh Kalia.if the dude is in our soil he must be treated with respect due to a solider of his nation.
I feel like blame is murky and probably falls on a wide range of agencies/individuals between civilian government, IAF, and other bureaucrats. Ultimately, does it matter? The failure to take defense modernization seriously meant that India would always pay a higher cost in blood/treasure to ensure its strategic objectives are met. India will face the consequences from the past 20 years of procurement paralysis for the next 20 years.In adequate awacs certificate,whose fault is that? They were asking for mmrca since 2001,it's 2025 now. Whose fault it is?
Disagree.Absolutely. We must honour him like the way Fauji Foundation honoured Capt Saurabh Kalia.
Munir precipitated the entire issue only to boost his & Fauji Foundation's image. You think he's going to back down after the first salvo without responding?Looks like Pak wants to fold
They dont have any camps in India they can bomb
Hitting a dam will invite a harsh response from India plus the risk of flood damage to Pak
Hitting army / airforce units will climb up the escalation ladder
Hitting infra - will invite a response
Looks like Pak wont play folks - its a shame.
They fired BVR's into our airspace. That moment itself was a military escalation. We did not want mil escalation and because of this now we will get military escalation because of our half hearted response in the air.
Munir precipitated the entire issue only to boost his & Fauji Foundation's image. You think he's going to back down after the first salvo without responding?
Ignore tweets & statements by Shahbaz Sharif & his Defence Minister Khwaja Asif. They're but glorified chaprasis in Islamabad.
Unless you've a public statement by Munir himself to the effect that there'd be no retaliation, expect one & a big one at that from Fauji Foundation for like an American defence analyst quipped about Musharraf when he took power - he's the kind who won't ask before he leaps, " why the hell should I leap? " instead he's the kind who'd leap first & then ask , "why the hell did I leap? "
Munir is cut from the same cloth.
Here is the problem.....I feel like blame is murky and probably falls on a wide range of agencies/individuals between civilian government, IAF, and other bureaucrats. Ultimately, does it matter? The failure to take defense modernization seriously meant that India would always pay a higher cost in blood/treasure to ensure its strategic objectives are met. India will face the consequences from the past 20 years of procurement paralysis for the next 20 years.

Is there any video available showing this tail section?
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What a fake we have fallen to. Check out the location of Indian Tricolour, start point of penant number. Same is true about the engine as well. That engine does not shw anykind of turbines with it. Bhatinda airbase is home to LORA missiles as well and LORA has lots of fins in its booster. It seems that a fallen booster of LORA has been deep faked to change its rear to resemble the Con-Di nozzles of the M88-4 engine. Plus other than these two pics there is nothing available to show the second engine or the fuselage of the aircraft. Even the size of Men around the so called engine and the actual size of M88-4 engine do not match up.
