Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

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We killed 200+ terrorists and yet people are more concerned about what happened with the air activity. This will again cause the whole effort of attacking the terror training centers to fail.


Lack of clarity from IAF is causing India to lose the narrative war again. And we will again fail to build a deterrence.

If a normal pakistani is talking about 5 downed IAF aircrafts instead of 200+ pigs killed, the whole purpose of attack fails. We fail to create a deterrence against islamic terror attacks.
Good...someone with a brain from India.
 
I know sir forces are yet to confirm it, but the pictures ain't lying, Sir i would more happy to be proven disapproved, but this can't be the end, we have lost 15 civilians today including childrens, i don't want to post the picture of children it will break the heart's, it can't be said done from today's action, we need to do more than that, Govt can't Stop at this and say win, what's the point of strike when we tend to lose Even more today, if the govt ends at this, it will be very bad image for the IAF, IAF has yet release a statement, we know that this crashes happen today, they need to confirm it whose jet was this,
This pic is 12 years old has been debunked already.
 
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We killed 200+ terrorists and yet people are more concerned about what happened with the air activity. This will again cause the whole effort of attacking the terror training centers to fail.


Lack of clarity from IAF is causing India to lose the narrative war again. And we will again fail to build a deterrence.

If a normal pakistani is talking about 5 downed IAF aircrafts instead of 200+ pigs killed, the whole purpose of attack fails. We fail to create a deterrence against islamic terror attacks.

The only reason why I feel this is the case is that military leadership feels that this is not over. Time will tell.
 
where is the pilot and rest of the wreackage? While I do see the tail part resembling the rear of a con-Di nozzle, but there are no turbines with it. You very well know how a jet engine looks like and in crash of an aircraft, turbines nearly remain intact.

Pilot ejected based on no loss of life confirmation.

Aircraft's broken up. So that's one engine. There's an image of its tailfin with the tail number. The compressor is gone, but the combustor is the same as M88-4E.
 
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India is your country. go and check by yourself. Check wreckage, pilots etc. The hindu post deleted, IAF silent. But there are videos showing evidence. This is just the beginning. Rafale this rafale that? take some rest.
IAF will acknowledge losses..if any.. thats how the Indian system works. they wont on your time table. Worry about Swift Retreat 2.0. NO restrictive ROE this time.. Will be gloves off
 
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After observing this situation, my opinion is that the Rafale is operating without Meteor and AWACS, while the J-10CE with PL-15 is using Saab 200/ZDK-03. They are greatly advantaged in this situation, and this is a neglence of IAF (if this assumption is true)
The rafale was most likely returning from the A2G mission.
 
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I google searched this pic and it clearly says that it is from Akhnoor where an aircraft was shot down. We have very clear videos of Akaash being used on Pak Fighters in that sector. Plus Mig/Su do not use MB ejection seats.


PAF doesn't have twin engine jets. There are definitely 2 engine parts in the crash site. It could even be Jaguar, if not Mig-29.

The MB image is from Pakistan. So there's a M III/V crash site there.
 
Pak is crossing a threshold already -

Deliberately targeting civilians warrants a counter response. Not sure why this calibrated nonsense- their airbases should have been dust by now.

LoC is one place where we enjoy extreme superiority.

What we currently produce, the only way to match it is if China starts sending all its active production of shells to Pakistan.

Do not worry about LoC.

If we lose 1, we kill 4.
 
We killed 200+ terrorists and yet people are more concerned about what happened with the air activity. This will again cause the whole effort of attacking the terror training centers to fail.


Lack of clarity from IAF is causing India to lose the narrative war again. And we will again fail to build a deterrence.

If a normal pakistani is talking about 5 downed IAF aircrafts instead of 200+ pigs killed, the whole purpose of attack fails. We fail to create a deterrence against islamic terror attacks.

For that we need a presser from the IAF/MoD/NSA/PM or whoever.

We can't assess battle damage without satellite pics coming out of BROSINT on X. What you said is about the extent of the discussion we can have without sat images.

Assessing the air battle will tell us how badly Pak is screwed by the fact that the damage they could inflict as a secondary target of the IAF was still not enough to do any real damage to the IAF. Plus the fact that they failed to stop the strikes.
 
Why are users getting their panties in a twist over IAF jets being shot down? Everyone knows that they have neglected to modernize over the past fifteen years and have let nearly every single aspect of their air force wither away. I would be more surprised if they walked away from any engagement against a peer adversary without losses.
 
The first image he posted was from 12 years ago. The second one is from today.

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This is the twin-seat model. Either MKI or Mig-29UPG.

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The 2 cylinders are too small to be from the MKI's engines. The people there are too big in comparison. Even after a crash, the aircraft will still be taller than the people around. So they look like they are part of the RD-33 engine's inlet.

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The fact that Rafale and M-2000 went into highly contested enemy airspace and pounded the enemy targets for over 20 minutes speak highly of these French birds along with IAF training. And IAF is correct that not a single IAF jet was shot down during the operation. This is downright impressive whichever way you look at it.

PS: * This is solely my assumption based upon the Bhatinda video posted above*

Looks like we lost a Rafale during egress. What was the cause is unkown(SAM chase, G-lock, BVR etc.), but since the opposition/Pakistan will make a huge hue and cry so expect this news to filter out slightly delayed. Plus we would like to keep PAF guessing. Anyways, I hope I'm wrong and we didn't lose any Rafale or M-2000!
 
After observing this situation, my opinion is that the Rafale is operating without Meteor and AWACS, while the J-10CE with PL-15 is using Saab 200/ZDK-03. They are greatly advantaged in this situation, and this is a neglence of IAF (if this assumption is true)

The Rafale crash site is too far to have been downed. In tail-chase mode, a missile's range, whether SAM or AAM, is very short.

It seems to have crashed.
 
For that we need a presser from the IAF/MoD/NSA/PM or whoever.

We can't assess battle damage without satellite pics coming out of BROSINT on X. What you said is about the extent of the discussion we can have without sat images.

Assessing the air battle will tell us how badly Pak is screwed by the fact that the damage they could inflict as a secondary target of the IAF was still not enough to do any real damage to the IAF. Plus the fact that they failed to stop the strikes.
We do have awareness about our territories right? Why not start there.

Isn't owning up 2 crashes better than letting the media talk about 5?
 
Why are users getting their panties in a twist over IAF jets being shot down? Everyone knows that they have neglected to modernize over the past fifteen years and have let nearly every single aspect of their air force wither away. I would be more surprised if they walked away from any engagement against a peer adversary without losses.

The limited losses we faced is a very good thing. Normally, we should have lost a third of our attacking force.

The best they could do is shoot down 2 jets, probably. And even if it's 5 or 6, it's still peanuts.

First day of conflict should normally see tremendous losses.
 
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