Pahalgam terror attack: 26 killed

[Hydra]

To ALL folks asking why and when of attack, please read this.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1919122264207065355

This is not some joker of social media but a Subedar Major (SM). His points are very pertinent.

- We will drag our feet and dry Pakistan out waiting for an attack in an heightened alert state.
- THERE WILL BE A RETALIATION.

Its nothing but "agar rafale hotatoh, or Brahmos was ready to fire" type of face saving narration. Few months from now people will only remember the casualties of pahalgam attack, not the standoff if we didn't take military action.

For those who day dreaming about Pakistan will drained out should know this, this is the country developed a nuke weapon by telling that they are ready to feed grass to its people for nuke, this is the same country put their troops for six month at LOC, IB during our operation Parakram. They will keep their troops at LOC/IB for months if not years. Their, including common people's only surviving instinct is hate towards India.

I will tell this is the right time to attack pak, asper report they are low on ammo, asper report their underwater boats are at dry docks excepts few and Trump in US isn't in a mood to pamper any radical muslim or tyrannic country (for the first time we have such US president in last 50-60 years). The window is getting close, they are claiming a chinese supplement of weapons in two cargo planes, more may follow. Take action, or declare BJP as saffron congress.

 

[Sathya]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1919565543335403652

 

[Saaho]

Its nothing but "agar rafale hotatoh, or Brahmos was ready to fire" type of face saving narration. Few months from now people will only remember the casualties of pahalgam attack, not the standoff if we didn't take military action.

For those who day dreaming about Pakistan will drained out should know this, this is the country developed a nuke weapon by telling that they are ready to feed grass to its people for nuke, this is the same country put their troops for six month at LOC, IB during our operation Parakram. They will keep their troops at LOC/IB for months if not years. Their, including common people's only surviving instinct is hate towards India.

I will tell this is the right time to attack pak, asper report they are low on ammo, asper report their underwater boats are at dry docks excepts few and Trump in US isn't in a mood to pamper any radical muslim or tyrannic country (for the first time we have such US president in last 50-60 years). The window is getting close, they are claiming a chinese supplement of weapons in two cargo planes, more may follow. Take action, or declare BJP as saffron congress.

My crystal ball is only as good as yours. I do not know what will future hold with certainty but I do see damage to Modi admin's reputation if they do nothing. So lets see how it goes.

 

[Lolwa]

My crystal ball is only as good as yours. I do not know what will future hold with certainty but I do see damage to Modi admin's reputation if they do nothing. So lets see how it goes.

This is going to be a slow burn and then a huge shock and awe. Whatever is going to happen is going to be bigger than Balakot.

 

[vstol Jockey]

Remember operation Parakram, both sides locked each other for nothing. We got some news feeds & chit chat about war for 6 months in tea stalls, tjat was the only outcome for that operation.

Do you remember the poem by Atal Chaarpayi, Hum Yuddh nahi honay denge? He stated that after mobilising the forces. Do you see or hear Modi singing anything like that?

 

[Hydra]

Do you remember the poem by Atal Chaarpayi, Hum Yuddh nahi honay denge? He stated that after mobilising the forces. Do you see or hear Modi singing anything like that?

Yeas, i do remember. But under him, actually under George Fernandez our force used to get weapon they wants, not much redtapism etc.

I do agree that, modi don't preach peace, he didn't preach peace after galwan incident too, and made our force to locked for years at LAC. Same modi had ordered or didn't instruct our force to hold our troops to vacate shivalic hights we occupied as a tit for tat action, i didn't recall Atalji issues such things to our forces. And sir, you yourself admit in this forum to me that " why this government is not giving importance to defence tge way you expect".

I should not tell, as long as personals from a state which gives minimal number of personals to military are in key post in center,do you have any hope for escalations?

 

[Prokion]

Pakistan Navy tracks Indian spy plane in night operation

On the night of May 4-5, the Pakistan Navy successfully tracked and monitored an Indian plane, the P8I, which is usually employed

minutemirror.com.pk

Pakistan Navy claims to have tracked/intercepted/detected an IN p8i asw aircraft.

 

[Saaho]

Pakistan Navy claims to have tracked/intercepted/detected an IN p8i asw aircraft.

I will say well done PN! Thats some achievement to detect a Boeing 737NG.
I used to do that when I was 3, by looking up the sky.
My mother must be so proud!

 

[Jaymax]

Pakistan Navy tracks Indian spy plane in night operation

On the night of May 4-5, the Pakistan Navy successfully tracked and monitored an Indian plane, the P8I, which is usually employed

minutemirror.com.pk

Pakistan Navy claims to have tracked/intercepted/detected an IN p8i asw aircraft.

They also claim horse riders shooting lasers from their swords helped Pak Army beat India in 65. Chill

 

[HariPrasad]

Apparently the jamming of Rafaele news wasn't too wrong either.
May be a bit exaggerated.
But thunder block 3 did score a hard lockon over the Rafales flying CAP mission , while disrupting their radio signal, by jamming transmissions with KG-600/700 SPJ pods.

Ohhh Bhai, Maro muje maro. A 4- generation Aircraft with most poor electronics jammed the Rafales's electronics which is considered best in world. Rafale can blind all J1 to J100 with Spectra. Electreonics of Chinese aircrafts are Sh*t.

Same way as Abhi nandan shot down Pakistani F 16 without being able to fire any of his missiles.
All 4 of his missiles came down with the mig 21, still attached to the wings. Still in PAF custody.
We are learning to lie from the experts in our east.

Where did other 2 Pilots go? ISPR had said that they had captured 3 Indian pilots. Who were other 2? They were F16 pilots?

 

[Prokion]

They have even posted a video on YouTube. The plane appears to be flying over hills, which probably means the first clip is fake and only for propaganda/PR purposes.

 

[randomradio]

Many members here not taken notice of the last statement of MOdi, "samay bahut kam hai aur karya bahut bada". It means we have very short time available to do something very big. It will be a very short and very intense war lasting just 3-5 days and within that Pakistan will be dismembered and destroyed. The day any of the nukes of Pakistan comes out of their underground bunkers, our satellites and that of our friends will pick them up. They will be destroyed in counter strike by our Nuke missiles even before they get mated to Missiles.
A long drawn out war favours India and will ensure complete decimation of Pak war fighting potential. You will see that within 3-5 days we will be able to achieve our war aim and the world will bow to the genious and strength of our armed forces.

I think he's referring to pre-war preparations.

 

[randomradio]

Modi said, “samay bahut kam hai aur karya bahut bada” which literally means, “Time is very short and the task is very big.”

He said this in a speech to senior Indian Army officers on August 15, 2014, as he detailed the preparations needed to deal with a possible border escalation on Independence Day, at the National Defense Academy in New Delhi as a reminder that, in the face of the Pakistani threat, India needed to modernize its forces and accelerate its training and armament rates. This phrase has become emblematic in Indian military circles for stressing the need for swift, decisive action.

He used it again very recently, on April 29, 2025, at the YUGM Conclave in New Delhi (a meeting of senior officials - including NSA Ajit Doval and the Chiefs of Staff), where he addressed civilian and military leaders (and used it again a few days later on his Mann Ki Baat program).

He himself made it clear that this is not an imminent threat, but a call to speed up all processes (from laboratory to battlefield, or from idea to implementation). In short, it's not just a martial slogan: it's a governance tool to give speed and priority to its strategic objectives, be they military or national development.

By hammering home the idea that India has little time to prepare for any escalation against Pakistan (and, more broadly, its two fronts, Pakistan and China), Modi is putting direct political pressure on to speed up major acquisitions, including the Rafale G-to-G.

By reinforcing the rhetoric of urgency and threat, Modi has created a favorable political window of opportunity for rapidly completing the 40 Rafales. This strengthens the military staff's fast-track procurement approach, at a time when other priorities (helicopters, missiles) are also vying for funds.

This insistence on “short time, big job” clearly consolidates the Indian government's determination to rapidly conclude the purchase of 40 Rafale G-to-G aircraft. It aligns political and strategic pressure with the immediate need to reinforce the IAF's air superiority against its neighbors.

Pre-war preparations would mean creating and sustaining a logistics network, preparing for mass production of weapons, and creating new groups for cyber defense et al. Long-term procurements like Rafale GTG won't play a part here.

We also have to deal with a domestic front that can use peaceful protests to block roads and railways, and violent riots in towns and cities, to dismantle the country's war waging capacity from the inside, which we call the 0.5 front. The state has to prepare localized ground troops pulled from among civilians to deal with such threats, basically goons. Preparing an army to showcase street power will take time too. RSS has 6 million, BJP should have 20-30 million. If we include local right wing parties and other pro-Indian state parties, we could get about 40-50 million or so ready to take to the streets in support of the war effort. They need a nationwide logistics chain too; food, medicine, weapons, places to stay etc for 2-3 weeks, maybe more.

 

[Sathya]

I will say well done PN! Thats some achievement to detect a Boeing 737NG.
I used to do that when I was 3, by looking up the sky.
My mother must be so proud!

It flew with transponder ON, information is easily available.

 

[Innominate]

This is going to be a slow burn and then a huge shock and awe. Whatever is going to happen is going to be bigger than Balakot.

And if it's not? What if it's nothing but a token strike to make sure it doesn't provoke Pakistan from escalating. Can Modi survive politically.

 

[randomradio]

And if it's not? What if it's nothing but a token strike to make sure it doesn't provoke Pakistan from escalating. Can Modi survive politically.

The initial strike will be big. Escalation depends on Pakistan's actions. And it can quite easily escalate itself into a war.

 

[arsalan3345]

Its nothing but "agar rafale hotatoh, or Brahmos was ready to fire" type of face saving narration. Few months from now people will only remember the casualties of pahalgam attack, not the standoff if we didn't take military action.

For those who day dreaming about Pakistan will drained out should know this, this is the country developed a nuke weapon by telling that they are ready to feed grass to its people for nuke, this is the same country put their troops for six month at LOC, IB during our operation Parakram. They will keep their troops at LOC/IB for months if not years. Their, including common people's only surviving instinct is hate towards India.

I will tell this is the right time to attack pak, asper report they are low on ammo, asper report their underwater boats are at dry docks excepts few and Trump in US isn't in a mood to pamper any radical muslim or tyrannic country (for the first time we have such US president in last 50-60 years). The window is getting close, they are claiming a chinese supplement of weapons in two cargo planes, more may follow. Take action, or declare BJP as saffron congress.

You can fight a war, do whatever you want but using water as a tool is unacceptable. Just because water originates from your kashmir doesn't mean your complete control. India is using old tactics. India wants Pakistan to attack first because of water crisis so that world will continue to support you and you play victim card. I say let's do it like a man. Let water flow. Let us settle score in each others territory. A powerful country who believes in democracy will nevr use water as a tool to wage war.

 

[arsalan3345]

The initial strike will be big. Escalation depends on Pakistan's actions. And it can quite easily escalate itself into a war.

Just do it. I am sick and tired of waiting. If you think Pakistan is responsible for attack then start whatever you want but do it now. Thing is India will never listen to Pakistan under BJP government. I am sure friendship is not possible under BJP. Every attack on kashmir quickly blamed on Pakistan and we also need to prepare ourselves for future because this same situation can comeback again and again. And water? who stops water? This is unacceptable for us.

 

[Hydra]

You can fight a war, do whatever you want but using water as a tool is unacceptable. Just because water originates from your kashmir doesn't mean your complete control. India is using old tactics. India wants Pakistan to attack first because of water crisis so that world will continue to support you and you play victim card. I say let's do it like a man. Let water flow. Let us settle score in each others territory. A powerful country who believes in democracy will nevr use water as a tool to wage war.

Lets do it in manly way, stop terrorism and kill innocents after inspecting their religion and come with force.

Blood is thicker than water.

Just do it. I am sick and tired of waiting. If you think Pakistan is responsible for attack then start whatever you want but do it now. Thing is India will never listen to Pakistan under BJP government. I am sure friendship is not possible under BJP. Every attack on kashmir quickly blamed on Pakistan and we also need to prepare ourselves for future because this same situation can comeback again and again. And water? who stops water? This is unacceptable for us.

Who carried out kargil when BJP was in power in 1999.

 

[arsalan3345]

Lets do it in manly way, stop terrorism and kill innocents after inspecting their religion and come with force.

Blood is thicker than water.

Because you think we did it. Why we have police, courts and investigations in both countries if it's easy to blame ad hang the other person without law? It's like attacking without any reason, just because you hate someone etc. What is the point of having law and order? You should change your decision related to water. It's basic need of human body. I have never seen this cruel india in my life. I know India wants to fight and wants to become big but let's settle it on the ground and not on issues like water.