Pahalgam terror attack: Several tourists feared dead

[HariPrasad]

You should calm down hari prasad. Safriz we will not support anything in kashmir. We don't want war. We are all human beings just different countries nothing else. We are against terrorism of all types, shapes etc. Listen to me, if we fulfill each other demands then a solution is possible. Without helping each other, no solution is possible. World around us has changed. We should listen to india and similarly india should listen to us. India is a great country with so many resources and kind people. There are good people in Pakistan as well. We must not fight against each other.

Your terrorist nation is a tail of Dog. We do not have any issue with that. You can promote as much terrorism as you wish. We have issue with our coward government which inspite of all this might and 4th most powerful nation in the world is tolerating this terrorism for almost 8 decades. We elected Modi with big hopes but he proved to be a spineless coward. We have nobody else to blame except ourselves. All these missiles and planes are for republican day parade. I do not think that Pakistan or Kashmiri Muslims are at any sort of fault. Coward Pundits fled from their mother land instead of fighting back. In Gujarat, we fought and teach Jihadis some lesson. We elected Modi for that but his hands are tied by awards of Muslim nations. He wants to take Nobel price and as a result we get humiliated.

 

[arsalan3345]

Your terrorist nation is a tail of Dog. We do not have any issue with that. You can promote as much terrorism as you wish. We have issue with our coward government which inspite of all this might and 4th most powerful nation in the world is tolerating this terrorism for almost 8 decades. We elected Modi with big hopes but he proved to be a spineless coward. We have nobody else to blame except ourselves. All these missiles and planes are for republican day parade. I do not think that Pakistan or Kashmiri Muslims are at any sort of fault. Coward Pundits fled from their mother land instead of fighting back. In Gujarat, we fought and teach Jihadis some lesson. We elected Modi for that but his hands are tied by awards of Muslim nations. He wants to take Nobel price and as a result we get humiliated.

Don't feel humiliated. What would you say if you find out that pakistan wasn't involved in this attack? you will regret obviously. Thing is anger is temporary. right now you are angry. Every indian is angry because ther is hope etc but why us? You should think about pakistan from your mind and not from your heart. Technically, there is no evidence and lack of communication from your side makes things even worse. We are a nation, a country just like you. What would you do if you see enemy planes patrolling nearby? you prepare! This is what's happening on the ground and all this is happening without any reason.

Where are those people who attacked? Hiding? do your job. and investigate etc.don't blame us before complete investigation. in anger, people only want blood and becomes mad. you need to think about it sensibly.

 

[randomradio]

They are pretty much giving Pakistan a heads up to prepare kind of like when Iran told US that they were going to hit US base in Iraq to make sure there are no casualties which the hope was US doesn't retaliate.

There's not gonna be any of that. No more potential for deniability.

we will not escalate. just retaliate. we don't want war.

Retaliating is escalating.

 

[randomradio]

it's in your mind. i mean like everything that happens bad is because of pakistan etc.Indian army also moved troops. We know everything. Do you think we aren't watching our border? We wish peace as we don't want this war like situation every year. There is no pakistani footprint in this attack. I know nothing about these groups but trust me, we aren't helping anyone. we have our own problems to deal with.

Kashmir would be peaceful without Pakistan as a neighbor, that's for sure.

Pivot corps, yeah. But if the main body of the IA moved to the border, you will see videos of the same on X. Trains carrying heavy weapons. International air traffic is moving as usual between both countries. PA is the one making things as public as possible on the ground. Flying low, tanks crossing public roads in both villages and cities etc.

The last I heard the ISI Chief is now Pakistan's new NSA and Asim Munir wants a small war anyway. So you don't want war, but the PA does. Hence the showmanship even before the IA has moved.

Anyway, there is no trust between the two countries. Talks will happen after all the action. The extent of the action depends entirely on Pakistan.

 

[arsalan3345]

There's not gonna be any of that. No more potential for deniability.


Retaliating is escalating.

so you want us not to retaliate? you will find no such country in this world that doesn't retaliate. are you sure you want this? do you think attacking pakistan will help you heal? There is still no explanation given from your side. But i know it's coming. It will go out of control randomradio.

 

[arsalan3345]

Kashmir would be peaceful without Pakistan as a neighbor, that's for sure.

Pivot corps, yeah. But if the main body of the IA moved to the border, you will see videos of the same on X. Trains carrying heavy weapons. International air traffic is moving as usual between both countries. PA is the one making things as public as possible on the ground. Flying low, tanks crossing public roads in both villages and cities etc.

The last I heard the ISI Chief is now Pakistan's new NSA and Asim Munir wants a small war anyway. So you don't want war, but the PA does. Hence the showmanship even before the IA has moved.

Anyway, there is no trust between the two countries. Talks will happen after all the action. The extent of the action depends entirely on Pakistan.

Nah nah nah don't put the blame on pakistan. If you start it, we will do whatever we can to stop it in the first place and later retaliate. Thing is we have an active airforce. It's not like syria or palestine. Indian army is on the border and even vacated few villages. We know everything randomradio. We have good friends and we use satellite as well. We aren't same old Pakistan.

You know why we fly low. You know tactics. We don't want war. I insist to sit down and talk. War is not solution of everything. Nobody wants war in Pakistan not even pakistan army. We are peaceful people but yes we are sick and tired of this kashmir issue and terrorism problem.

 

[arsalan3345]

This will be the first time that war starts without India giving any evidence or explanation. I think i should go and buy stuff before war starts. Trust me, we don't want war but we can't stop you everytime. We can only use wisdom to persuade you but it becomes extremely difficult now. Hate destroys everything. people divorce, kill each other just because of hate. I wish i would be alive after war to talk to you. thank you for everything.

 

[STEPHEN COHEN]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1917916388901130283

 

[nair]

This will be the first time that war starts without India giving any evidence or explanation. I think i should go and buy stuff before war starts. Trust me, we don't want war but we can't stop you everytime. We can only use wisdom to persuade you but it becomes extremely difficult now. Hate destroys everything. people divorce, kill each other just because of hate. I wish i would be alive after war to talk to you. thank you for everything.

When was the last time india gave evidence and started a war?
Wanna give you a crash course on our wars?
1) 48 - Pakistan attacked and occupied parts of Kashmir
2) 65 - Pakistan started with Op gibraltor and ended up in a war with India
3) 71 - Pakistan attacked forward bases of IAF and kicked off the humiliation of history of conflicts
4) 99 - Pakistan occupied areas of Kargil and initiated a war?

Guess what Even this time it is and it will be pakistan who would be initiating a war (if ever will be one)

 

[randomradio]

yeah i know. I personally believe that war between these two countries will happen no matter what. There is so much confusion, hate, etc on both sides. I think british should come and answer all these questions. It's their mistake that we are in this pathetic situation. What a common person wants? It wants better relations. it wants to visit any place in india and basically convey a message of peace. hate overcomes everything.

No point in blaming the British. It's your fault you could not run your country properly, your fault you put the PA up on a pedestal, your fault you let Islamists take over, your fault your economy is in doldrums. You are practically on the brink of a civil war, and India did not even have to do anything for you to get to that point.

At least in India, our leaders were weak when we started off. It took us 67 years to get a somewhat strong leader. You are lucky you are still dealing with a moderate leader in India with a minority govt. What do you think will happen when a radical takes power with a supermajority? BJP and RSS are grooming a whole new generation of extremely assertive leaders. It's better to deal with things now, when you still have some sort of leverage rather than 5 years down the line.

 

[randomradio]

What would you say if you find out that pakistan wasn't involved in this attack?

Lashkar took credit on the day of the attack. A few days later, they claimed their website was hacked by India. No one believes that.

 

[arsalan3345]

When was the last time india gave evidence and started a war?
Wanna give you a crash course on our wars?
1) 48 - Pakistan attacked and occupied parts of Kashmir
2) 65 - Pakistan started with Op gibraltor and ended up in a war with India
3) 71 - Pakistan attacked forward bases of IAF and kicked off the humiliation of history of conflicts
4) 99 - Pakistan occupied areas of Kargil and initiated a war?

Guess what Even this time it is and it will be pakistan who would be initiating a war (if ever will be one)

siachen, bangladesh intervention etc. It's like a quick guide.

 

[randomradio]

so you want us not to retaliate? you will find no such country in this world that doesn't retaliate. are you sure you want this? do you think attacking pakistan will help you heal? There is still no explanation given from your side. But i know it's coming. It will go out of control randomradio.

Then it will keep escalating. As per the IA, they were prepared to launch an invasion with limited objectives in 2019, after missile and naval strikes on military targets, as part of the escalation matrix.

It won't be any different this time. Based on what I think, we will once again hit non-military targets, putting the ball in Pakistan's court. And there will be instructions to the IAF pilots to avoid a repeat of the Abhinandan fiasco that luckily for Pakistan allowed the US to intervene. Abhinandan's capture led to de-escalation, and that was considered a big mistake by our security forces, and they turned out to be right.

We could start with missile strikes this time, and the overall scale will be very large. Even if air strikes are conducted, I doubt it will be as small as 2019. So you can imagine the response if Pakistan hits back at the same scale.

It's about justice. Healing comes after.

 

[arsalan3345]

Lashkar took credit on the day of the attack. A few days later, they claimed their website was hacked by India. No one believes that.

someone attacks and took responsibility immediately? come on! we can move on.

 

[randomradio]

Nah nah nah don't put the blame on pakistan. If you start it, we will do whatever we can to stop it in the first place and later retaliate. Thing is we have an active airforce. It's not like syria or palestine.

No one's denying it.

Indian army is on the border and even vacated few villages. We know everything randomradio. We have good friends and we use satellite as well. We aren't same old Pakistan.

That's normal. Done even without the main body.

You know why we fly low. You know tactics. We don't want war. I insist to sit down and talk. War is not solution of everything. Nobody wants war in Pakistan not even pakistan army. We are peaceful people but yes we are sick and tired of this kashmir issue and terrorism problem.

Even we don't want war. All you have to do is not retaliate. Then we won't have a war.

Anyway, in this case, war is a solution. That's why it's being considered. All other diplomatic measures have failed. Even the international community has failed, state-sponsored terrorism is still alive.

 

[arsalan3345]

Then it will keep escalating. As per the IA, they were prepared to launch an invasion with limited objectives in 2019, after missile and naval strikes on military targets, as part of the escalation matrix.

It won't be any different this time. Based on what I think, we will once again hit non-military targets, putting the ball in Pakistan's court. And there will be instructions to the IAF pilots to avoid a repeat of the Abhinandan fiasco that luckily for Pakistan allowed the US to intervene. Abhinandan's capture led to de-escalation, and that was considered a big mistake by our security forces, and they turned out to be right.

We could start with missile strikes this time, and the overall scale will be very large. Even if air strikes are conducted, I doubt it will be as small as 2019. So you can imagine the response if Pakistan hits back at the same scale.

It's about justice. Healing comes after.

Justice come only after handling evidence. Yeah i heard same plans. anyway best of luck. I mean nobody can stop India now. All the efforts to stop India looks to be in vain. It's like declaring war without any reason.

No point in blaming the British. It's your fault you could not run your country properly, your fault you put the PA up on a pedestal, your fault you let Islamists take over, your fault your economy is in doldrums. You are practically on the brink of a civil war, and India did not even have to do anything for you to get to that point.

At least in India, our leaders were weak when we started off. It took us 67 years to get a somewhat strong leader. You are lucky you are still dealing with a moderate leader in India with a minority govt. What do you think will happen when a radical takes power with a supermajority? BJP and RSS are grooming a whole new generation of extremely assertive leaders. It's better to deal with things now, when you still have some sort of leverage rather than 5 years down the line.

There are many internal matters. Every country face internal problems. Don't blame us for all of this. War is not a joke. War brings destruction and should be avoided at all cost.

 

[randomradio]

This will be the first time that war starts without India giving any evidence or explanation. I think i should go and buy stuff before war starts. Trust me, we don't want war but we can't stop you everytime. We can only use wisdom to persuade you but it becomes extremely difficult now. Hate destroys everything. people divorce, kill each other just because of hate. I wish i would be alive after war to talk to you. thank you for everything.

India's never started a war. So I don't know what evidence/explanation you are talking about. Pak was the aggressor in all wars.

This time too, India will hit non-military targets, it's up to Pakistan to turn that into a war. You do claim Pakistan has nothing to do with terrorist elements. It's obvious you are gonna have to walk the talk.

Anyway it's likely the US will prevent Pakistan from retaliating. It won't become a full-fledged war. The Indian govt seems to prefer a SU-style dissolution for Pakistan.

someone attacks and took responsibility immediately? come on! we can move on.

Yes. That's who we are gonna attack.

Justice come only after handling evidence.

The perpetrators have already claimed the attack.

 

[nair]

siachen, bangladesh intervention etc. It's like a quick guide.

Siachin was a war? Come on!!!
Bengladesh intervention? What does that mean? Who started the war?

For clarity I am not asking who ended the war!!

 

[arsalan3345]

India's never started a war. So I don't know what evidence/explanation you are talking about. Pak was the aggressor in all wars.

This time too, India will hit non-military targets, it's up to Pakistan to turn that into a war. You do claim Pakistan has nothing to do with terrorist elements. It's obvious you are gonna have to walk the talk.

Anyway it's likely the US will prevent Pakistan from retaliating. It won't become a full-fledged war. The Indian govt seems to prefer a SU-style dissolution for Pakistan.

Non military targets must not include mosque or madrassa. There are young children every time. if you hit religious place then nobody will stop war.

Siachin was a war? Come on!!!
Bengladesh intervention? What does that mean? Who started the war?

For clarity I am not asking who ended the war!!

forget siachen and bangladesh, don't start war. Come on! hand us the evidence first.

 

[Ashwin]

we will not escalate. just retaliate. we don't want war.

Don't want war, just Jihad please .