Nah, turns out Pakistan is still 80% river dependent. 90% of food production comes out of river water.
Anyway, less water means less water in canals, making it easier to cross.
Faster surrender.
Surrender, third option.
Pahalgam terror attack: 26 killed
- Thread starter Tatvamasi
- Start date
- Status
Nah, turns out Pakistan is still 80% river dependent. 90% of food production comes out of river water.
Anyway, less water means less water in canals, making it easier to cross.
Faster surrender.
Surrender, third option.
They already experienced it in 2022.
Flood Woes Continue in Pakistan
Water has begun to recede, but large swaths of farmland remain waterlogged as food shortages loom and waterborne diseases spread.
You should take later option, Fire gun in open air for few minutes to show the world that Pakistan is strong and after that drama surrender to our armed forces.
Gotta agree. Small steps first. Taking back parts of PoJK alone will be worth the effort.
But why would we hold elections before census and delimitation?
I am not disputing any of that. Just making a point that we do have thermonuclear devices that can be delivered via our MIRV’d BMs. So whatever you just mentioned will be further magnified if/when we bring our own thermo-nukes out.
We have all the stuff necessary to breach Chinese air space. But I don't believe we will get around to doing all that through merely a limited war.
Before or After it depends on Government mood. Public support is important. Politicians wants power, they don't go in technicalities.
Last edited:
This will be a “limited war” — but I don’t think Indian administration/army controls that.
Given the buildup on both sides, we will see kinetic action - it’s matter of when and not if.
The onus will then be on Pakistan - how it wants to play the game! With IWT in abeyance, there will be pressure on Pak mil as well to fight. So any escalation - whether it’s nature of retaliation or choice of targets which can “actually” hurt India will see India climbing the escalation ladder. If India backs down again, it will be seen as loss of face in India and Modi will have to pay a huge political price for that - mind you, Balakot (despite being a copy-book op), what followed later with information warfare, we did not come out unscathed. To common men of India, it was not a clear cut victory. I don’t think this government can afford another such goof up this time given the target was civilians within our own Country.
So, limited or not is still very much dependent on how Pak decides to play after India strikes.
We will wait for Pakistan to strike first, which they will in first or second week of May. Our government will not allow it to escalate beyond the marked map. Our only target would be Haji Pir and some terrorist camps. Powerful and strong Nation control's and play with enemies mind. Weak country give nuclear threat.
Jesus H Christ! Did they get Sashi Tharoor to write this for them???
I do not think anyone can write such a PR piece in entire Pakistan.
That or they have finally discovered ChatGPT has uses beyond making deep fakes and mast ram porn stories. But still ... such kind of climb down? LOL!
Only trouble is, no one in the world is right now willing to buy this shit. Not even Pakistani themselves.
Mere surgical strikes and air strikes are not sufficient. We need uninterrupted economic development while they disappear into oblivion on their own. Pak needs to experience a loss in territory, so let's hope the politicians actually listen to the military's advise.
Take the Simla Agreement's abeyance by Pakistan, I think Pakistan wants to re-energize terrorism by forcing India to take away some land legally. This will convince some people in PoL/PoJK to join in, not just Punjabis and Pashtuns. If we have to pre-empt that, Pakistan's gonna have to lose pretty much all of PoJK at the very least.
I think Pakistan will be forced to retaliate until the IN makes their move, and things will stop after that as their very survival is put at risk at that point.
Construction work on some small-scale barrages seems to have started in some places:
I want to propose something radically different. Always target that which the enemy least expects. In any case, we can't & shouldn't target Fauji Foundation. Their proxies have all flown the coop. You can't target their civilians.
So what do you do & whom do you target? Target their war machinery. Start out with the PN & while they gather their wits, trying to figure out what's happening, go for the PAF. Once you've destroyed a significant number of their naval & air assets call for a unilateral CF.
The damage to their PAF & PN should be such that it takes them 1-2 decades to recover if at all which given their precarious economy is even more doubtful. However in case they do go in for massive re armament which I won't rule out for this is Paxtan we're talking about, it comes at the cost of their economy.
Finally, after a CF is declared, start engagements across the LoC graduating our response, pummeling them across the LoC. Non stop. For a good 8-12 months tying up a good deal of Fauji Foundation there while increasing funding to the TTP, the Balochi Sarmachars etc to run amok inside Paxtan.
So what do you do & whom do you target? Target their war machinery. Start out with the PN & while they gather their wits, trying to figure out what's happening, go for the PAF. Once you've destroyed a significant number of their naval & air assets call for a unilateral CF.
The damage to their PAF & PN should be such that it takes them 1-2 decades to recover if at all which given their precarious economy is even more doubtful. However in case they do go in for massive re armament which I won't rule out for this is Paxtan we're talking about, it comes at the cost of their economy.
Finally, after a CF is declared, start engagements across the LoC graduating our response, pummeling them across the LoC. Non stop. For a good 8-12 months tying up a good deal of Fauji Foundation there while increasing funding to the TTP, the Balochi Sarmachars etc to run amok inside Paxtan.
Maamu as usual you talk with your head up your behind. If as you claim India's been stopping waters flowing in the past, that was your red line whose violation was promised to be met by Atam Bam coz they're meant to be used on India not for shab e baraat or ammi's baraat with or without halala.
And if you didn't do anything then, why would you do so now? Besides another one of your red line was breached in Aug 2019 when Khansama was in power. Apart from kaape tang rahe the Qamar Qadiani didn't amount to much nor did Khansama except for the various takrirs he gave.
The solution for us blocking the waters is so simple. Fast track Green Paxtan Initiative & build those canals once things cool down with India diverting waters meant for the Seraikis & Sindhis.
It's easier to deal with one more internal schism than it is with a powerful external actor (till it's no longer possible to do so). After all this is textbook Fauji Foundation tactics not strategy for that word doesn't exist in the Green or Deen Book trainees at Hassan Abdal are provided with.
Alhamdulillah!
I hope you have seen these Google Earth fotos. If you have not, I am sure CCP, PlaN, Chinese Govt sure has did. Last they were squeaking about the range of Agni V being under reported by India and saying that actual range is 8000kms....
I think people working in chinese govt, CCP, PLAN are sane people unlike you...
A per @Hellfire, taking out Pakistan's war materials would set them back by 50 years.
- Status