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safriz said:
Lol. Same old Indian broken record.
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does it change the fact,
it is exactly this attitude of pakistani which is responsible for the gutter in which they are in .
because madarsa education can take you to this far only
 
safriz said:
Lol, Indian delusion. No you didn't give us place to sir, we are here as a thorn to your eyes. And you cannot do anything.
I also have seen Indian treatment abroad. On 14th of August in Manchester the Indians stay home because Pakistanis are out. Also Indians are the most cowardly people in Britain.
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....and you lost half your nation to this group of cowards ??!? Says a lot about your lot .
 
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safriz said:
Well yeah, we love our weapons and can use them when needed. That's why you don't fight us a direct war, and pay proxies like TTP and baloch terrorists. Cowards
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You can't have a weapon-heavy population with its brains addled by a madrassah system and not suffer the consequences. No point blaming others for it; clean up the mess that you thought was so clever. This is called blowback.

As for calling Indians cowards for allegedly paying proxies like the TTP and the Baloch, this is something that you have repeated so often that it has become a big lie that you have finally begun to believe in yourselves. For decades, Sartaj Aziz cut a sad figure as he waved about a file with nothing useful inside it, claiming that it contained information about Indian encouragement of Pakistani dissidents. He could not produce a scrap of paper. Currently, the Pakistani way of proving that this is real, and not a made-up story to compensate for their lack of credibility in matters relating to terrorism, is to subject various individuals to the third degree and produce their carefully-tutored testimony as evidence.

Nobody believes Pakistan now. If you insist upon putting out these bizarre, very circumstantial stories, the disbelief will simply get louder.
 
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safriz said:
I also have seen Indian treatment abroad. On 14th of August in Manchester the Indians stay home because Pakistanis are out. Also Indians are the most cowardly people in Britain.
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Pakistanis are CRIMINAL MINDED ; that is not bravery

It is your Dirty Genes ; Dirty Blood and Upbringing and Moral Values

That is why There are Pakistani GROOMING gangs and Pedophiles
 
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bonobashi said:
You can't have a weapon-heavy population with its brains addled by a madrassah system and not suffer the consequences. No point blaming others for it; clean up the mess that you thought was so clever. This is called blowback.

As for calling Indians cowards for allegedly paying proxies like the TTP and the Baloch, this is something that you have repeated so often that it has become a big lie that you have finally begun to believe in yourselves. For decades, Sartaj Aziz cut a sad figure as he waved about a file with nothing useful inside it, claiming that it contained information about Indian encouragement of Pakistani dissidents. He could not produce a scrap of paper. Currently, the Pakistani way of proving that this is real, and not a made-up story to compensate for their lack of credibility in matters relating to terrorism, is to subject various individuals to the third degree and produce their carefully-tutored testimony as evidence.

Nobody believes Pakistan now. If you insist upon putting out these bizarre, very circumstantial stories, the disbelief will simply get louder.
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Our gun closets are full . Even my 65 year old mom has better aim with a Mauser than a trained policeman.
Its the same as in USA, people who have guns also know when and how to use them. Personally i cant even kill a fly without feeling bad.
About Madressah, its an entirely separate topic and you same as many Pakistanis don't understand the subject at all.
 
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vikata said:
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does it change the fact,
it is exactly this attitude of pakistani which is responsible for the gutter in which they are in .
because madarsa education can take you to this far only
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Madressah education is great . You are indulging in a discussion you know diddly-squat about.
 
safriz said:
Madressah education is great . You are indulging in a discussion you know diddly-squat about.
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It's not just we , it's your rulers who want it too .That every child of Pakistan be madrassah educated while theirs go to the elite schools and possibly Ivy League universities in the West before settling there. Glad to see you uphold the tradition .
 
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It's not just we , it's your rulers who want it too .That every child of Pakistan be madrassah educated while theirs go to the elite schools and possibly Ivy League universities in the West before settling there. Glad to see you uphold the tradition .
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Well, people get Madressha education and then go on to do a PHD. We learn our religion in Madressah. Hinduism is not a well structured religion and doesn't have well defined instructions thats why you don't need to learn it in an institution and can invent or modify as you wish, being a Paganism faith.
Ours is different and hence has to be learned in an educational institution. Thats why you don't understand and thats fine.
 
safriz said:
Madressah education is great . You are indulging in a discussion you know diddly-squat about.
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I agree. No where will you find being taught that Earth is falt and that you will fall off if you went to the edge of it and that earthquakes happen because of women driving cars. This is what only a Madrasa can teach.
safriz said:
Which religion?
Is Hinduism a religion?
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An Indian Muslim says, "I am Indian Muslim". While in Pakistan most say that they are Muslim from Pakistan. You have no idea of a nation state due to your upbringing based on hatred of Hindus. See what have you become as a result. India can solve your problems over night which China can never. But you will try and destroy us only and in the process will get destroyed yourself. Just one more month for you guys to get your act together. Monsoons are about to set in.
 
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I agree. No where will you find being taught that Earth is falt and that you will fall off if you went to the edge of it and that earthquakes happen because of women driving cars. This is what only a Madrasa can teach.
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Stop embarrassing yourself by showing how unaware and illiterate you are. There is no Madressah which teaches the made up rubbish you are writing.
 
safriz said:
Madressah education is great . You are indulging in a discussion you know diddly-squat about.
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I have seen what they teach in it first hand. Trust me it's not great. Not every Madresash turns kids into fanatics but it gets them close to it. Indulging so much into religion that his logic is thrown out of a window. It's very easy for them to fall for radicalism.
 
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safriz said:
Well, people get Madressha education and then go on to do a PHD. We learn our religion in Madressah. Hinduism is not a well structured religion and doesn't have well defined instructions thats why you don't need to learn it in an institution and can invent or modify as you wish, being a Paganism faith.
Ours is different and hence has to be learned in an educational institution. Thats why you don't understand and thats fine.
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We aren't referring to religious instruction only. All madrassahs provide other education too . Just that the syllabi is outdated & totally out of order to enable a student in it to secure a living in the modern world save as an Imam in a mosque or a Hafiz or any other religious worker .

A real pity , your holy book is an alien language too . That probably explains why a converted lot like you gets their religious instruction in a seminary in a language( that too an archaic version of it ) you don't use in everyday usage .

I personally think you're doing very well indeed . If everyone of you gets a modern education , what would happen to the state of Pakistan ? It'd be in a shape worse than it is .What would the landed gentry do? What would the political class , the bureaucracy , the armed forces do ? The people would be in revolt . There'd be total anarchy . This is much better . At least your lot can control the narrative this way .
 
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Paro said:
I have seen what they teach in it first hand. Trust me it's not great. Not every Madresash turns kids into fanatics but it gets them close to it. Indulging so much into religion that his logic is thrown out of a window. It's very easy for them to fall for radicalism.
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And what exactly have you seen? Write an example? I been to Madressah myself, so it will be fun to hear your version.
Do you know whats "Dars-e-Nizami"? Thats the syllabus. Google it.
 
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We aren't referring to religious instruction only. All madrassahs provide other education too . Just that the syllabi is outdated & totally out of order to enable a student in it to secure a living in the modern world save as an Imam in a mosque or a Hafiz or any other religious worker .

A real pity , your holy book is an alien language too . That probably explains why a converted lot like you gets their religious instruction in a seminary in a language( that too an archaic version of it ) you don't use in everyday usage .

I personally think you're doing very well indeed . If everyone of you gets a modern education , what would happen to the state of Pakistan ? It'd be in a shape worse than it is .What would the landed gentry do? What would the political class , the bureaucracy , the armed forces do ? The people would be in revolt . There'd be total anarchy . This is much better . At least your lot can control the narrative this way .
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Yeah..same as your religious book in in Sanskirit which nobody in India speaks anymore. Jewish Book is in Hebrew which they Re-Introduces after creation of Israle, in 60s.
Ours is in Arabic and we have no problem with that. Arabic is the most accurate language due to its structure and each word has specific meaning in specific pronunciation. There are reasons for choice of Arabic.
Madressah syllabus is "Dars-e-Nizaami" and is someone doesn't want full qualification they can go for just learning how to read Quran in popper accent called "Tajweed" or Memorize the quran called "Hifaz".
In Pakistan about a hundred thousand kids Memorize the Quran by heart every year.
 
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safriz said:
Yeah..same as your religious book in in Sanskirit which nobody in India speaks anymore. Jewish Book is in Hebrew which they Re-Introduces after creation of Israle, in 60s.

Ours is in Arabic and we have no problem with that. Arabic is the most accurate language due to its structure and each word has specific meaning in specific pronunciation. There are reasons for choice of Arabic.
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Both of these are of indigenous origin .Hebrew was spoken in the area that comprises the land of Israel today .Sanskrit wasn't imported here from Arabia .

One of the reasons why the Koran isn't translated and popularised among the convert's language is the fear the early Arabs had of diluting the faith and the allegiance the neo converts would have to their new religion and the holy sites in Arabia .

Christianity too faced this problem till the Reformation under the Protestants .

Hence what you have is Arab hegemony nicely couched under the rubric of religion sold to the converted which they've lapped up wholeheartedly and rest content with..

Who're we to complain ? We enjoy the site of a nation created as a new Medina - the Homeland of all the Muslims of the sub continent , with a Momin spilling the blood of another Momin . Internecine rivalry is a very Hindu trait . Glad to see you living true to your ancestry & antecedents. Hearty Congratulations !
 
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safriz said:
Well, people get Madressha education and then go on to do a PHD. We learn our religion in Madressah. Hinduism is not a well structured religion and doesn't have well defined instructions thats why you don't need to learn it in an institution and can invent or modify as you wish, being a Paganism faith.
Ours is different and hence has to be learned in an educational institution. Thats why you don't understand and thats fine.
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Check out the quality of you PhDs !!
 
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