Pakistan Navy: News & Discussions

Ashwin said:
ER aka Albatross-NG is italian not UK unlike you said. Contract is through them. So, UK part is irrelevant.
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UK is the main owner of the CAMM family. The CAMM-ER gives the Italians design authority. Like what FGFA was to India.

Regardless it's not French.

Ashwin said:
Which is the point. They had choice for both but choose western.
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No. Western ship with Western systems + Chinese ship with Chinese systems.

That's how they are counterbalancing between the east and west.
 
Ashwin said:
Which is the point. They had choice for both but choose western.
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Ashwin said:
The more important question is why Pakistan is going to such lengths to acquire short-range SAMs. Are Chinese SAMs not good enough for their needs?

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Turkey is a NATO country, it's as simple as that, The HQ16 is the core of our 054A/B and army air defense brigades, and we will not let NATO countries touch it
Maybe Pakistan got a loan from the Middle East and had to buy weapons from Islamic State and they chose Turkey
 
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LX1111 said:
Turkey is a NATO country, it's as simple as that, The HQ16 is the core of our 054A/B and army air defense brigades, and we will not let NATO countries touch it
Maybe Pakistan got a loan from the Middle East and had to buy weapons from Islamic State and they chose Turkey
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I'll say this again and again. Pakistan is trying to have China and Turkey as their two weapon supplier and they are just trying to please both the sides with every deal. Not saying that this Turkey deal is bad or they are naive or something. Turkey also helps with the "Islamic Superpower" or "Islamic Brotherhood" tag (I don't have anything against Islam btw).

They are doing what India did in the 90s and 2000s but worse. They are not absorbing as fast technology as we have through our old acquisition and it doesn't seem like it will change anytime soon.
 
Zarion said:
I'll say this again and again. Pakistan is trying to have China and Turkey as their two weapon supplier and they are just trying to please both the sides with every deal. Not saying that this Turkey deal is bad or they are naive or something. Turkey also helps with the "Islamic Superpower" or "Islamic Brotherhood" tag (I don't have anything against Islam btw).

They are doing what India did in the 90s and 2000s but worse. They are not absorbing as fast technology as we have through our old acquisition and it doesn't seem like it will change anytime soon.
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On the contrary, I think they are doing no useful things, they should not buy these at sixes and sevens boat, buy 36 aircraft H6K, carrying YJ12 enough threat to the west coast of India, in the purchase of 12 039 c, into four groups three submarines of wolves, hunting attempt to blockade the Indian navy
No matter how many frigates Pakistan buys, it will be difficult to defeat India, which has two aircraft carriers
 
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Pakistan Naval Aviation

Rotary

Seaking :- 22 in service
Aloutte III :- 8+ in service
Z9EC :- 6 in service

Fixed Wing

Sea Sultan :- 2 airframes delivered (10 planned)
RAS 72 :- 5 airframes, atleast 3 modified for ASW
P3C Orion :- 7 airframes left after Mehran attack, around 6 might be operational
 
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Commissioning ceremony of 1st HANGOR Class Submarine, PNS/M HANGOR was held in Sanya, China.

President Asif Ali Zardari, who was chief guest on the occasion, described the commissioning of HANGOR as a historic milestone in Pakistan Navy's modernization, affirming Pakistan's resolve to maintain a robust, balanced and credible defence posture.

He stated that Pakistan is fully capable of defending its sovereignty, protecting its maritime interests and ensuring the security of its economic lifelines.

Naval Chief Admiral Naveed Ashraf said HANGOR Class Submarines armed with state-of-the-art weapons, advanced sensors and Air Independent Propulsion will be key in preserving maritime order and stability in the region. He said these submarines will play a pivotal role in deterring aggression and ensuring security of vital Sea Lines of Communication (SLOCs) across the Arabian Sea and the wider Indian Ocean region.

The commissioning of 1st HANGOR Class Submarine marks another chapter in the time-tested and enriching friendship between Pakistan and China.

Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Chief of Army Staff and Chief of Defence Forces Field Marshal Syed Asim Munir have congratulated the entire nation and the Pakistan Navy on achieving this historic milestone.
 
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Could be easily mistaken for a Kilo class SSK. Only visual difference is foreplane arrangement on the sail.

Rubin DB has likely sold Kilo class design rights to China.
 
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