Even if you manage to create a TINY land locked Parsi nation
It will again be invaded by Muslims
You DO NOT have a USA which stood besides Israel
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Even if you manage to create a TINY land locked Parsi nation
It will again be invaded by Muslims
You DO NOT have a USA which stood besides Israel
Jews are Jews. And the difference is that they remained Jews throughout history, no matter where they were. Here you are counting a strength of 100 million (most of whom are Muslims - many of them virulently so) without even briefly considering that maybe all of them won't revert? You don't seem to consider the possibility of a civil war (if as you said, you had Jaichands of your own even when your Empire actually existed and was so influential, why would you assume you won't have any Jaichands now).
I also don't know how your dream scenario exactly works out when it comes to racial/ethnic and cultural purity. Anything west of India is toast, in that sense. What type and amount of racial mixing/impurity you're willing and unwilling to tolerate seems pretty arbitrary to me - but whatever.
And the guroor part was about those sections of your comment that I bolded.
It's really far more complex than that, and US support to Kurds has never been as steadfast as it was to Israel. Hell, I don't think any country in history has supported another as much as the US has supported Israel.
If your grand plan even partially depends on unity between all the different Kurdish factions and an eventual, single Kurdish state or US support to that state, I'm sorry but it's a pipe dream.
The Kurds are not even close to being a single entity, they've never managed to come together in any meaningful way in recent history to pursue their goal of a nation, and everyone from Israel to US to Russia has used them as and when it suited their own interests (and even in that case, they dealt with individual factions, not Kurds as a single entity).
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I love how you're prone to make snide comments about most groups/kingdoms in India, yet when the question of Persia comes up you're full of one excuse after the other (not to say those aren't valid points, they are, but you don't seem to make any such concession to any other group when discussing history).
And Persian Zoroastrians are Persians. World conquerors and a superpower that has been down for just 1300 years.
The sections you bolded are not self aggrandizement. In the initial centuries after our move to India, it was Persian scholars and priests who would make the difficult journey across to help us out on ritual and theological issues.
With the increasing clampdown on Zoroastrians in Iran by 1400 AD, the trend changed, and the now well settled Parsi community in India became the spiritual fulcrum of Zoroastrianism in the world.
Sending men and money and priests and at times political support for the beleagured community back in Iran. Getting boys and girls back from there to marry and settle in India.
This was a long time before the next wave came about two hundred years ago. Under the bigoted Qajjars.
I do not think Iran will revert without significant bloodshed. But before that, a core mass for the uprising needs to develop.
And the Kurds now open up immense hitherto unexpected possibilities.
Everyone is talking about it .... India, LA, Iran, Australia. There is a newfound hope that is palpable.
Cheers, Doc
Where did I pick on any Indian group here?
I am consciously trying to keep India out of here.
Let me strike out that Jaichand remark ...
Cheers, Doc
It's not about the Jaichand remark, it's more of a point on your greater comment history across this forum.
Do you honestly believe India (ALL kingdoms combined .... at their peak, united hypothetically) were in the same ballpark as Imperial Persia?
Be honest ....
Cheers, Doc
India was never one kingdom.. and you have to be more specific than that. It can be argued that everything from Eastern Afghanistan to Singapore was "India" at one point.
What I do know is that we were invaded by just about everybody (including, occasionally, Persians), and we resisted & outlasted them all.
Strike this out.
Not fair.
Not in the mood.
I'm thinking about homelands. And retribution.
Funny to see that pages into the discussion not one of you has offered the possibility of some help .... ?
Talk of USA. But Parsis are Indian. No India for us?
Cheers, Doc
And please stop being silly and basking in reflected glory . Your claiming all those glorious achievements of the Achaemenids solely on account of the shared religion is as ridiculous as those Pakistani Punjabis orgasming on PDF about Arab conquests right from the Atlantic to the Indian Ocean or anyone here claiming heritage from the Mauryas solely on account of a common religion or just coz they happen to be from Bihar.
Behave Dickraa!!
Somehow I've yet to come across a fighting Parsi . You may have been a war like community once. Not anymore.
I know this was probably a joke, but honestly;
You routinely curse India as becoming a saffron Pakistan, curse a vast chunk of Indians and Hindus as frothing at the mouth Sanghis, you miss no chance to tout your racial/cultural superiority and would rather mix with Middle Easterners who have Arab blood or Azerbaijanis who are hardcore pro-Pakistan Muslims than your "Vedic Indic cousins," you constantly have one eye on going back to Iran and recreating a long dead Empire, and you ridicule our kingdoms and their resistance against invaders even though we ultimately survived (not to mention you routinely invaded your own "cousins" throughout history).
And now you talk about help...? Bit cheeky no..?