Brahmos Supersonic Cruise Missile : News, Updates and Discussions

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I saw PEL presentation mentioning ToT from BAPL under induction at their new production line at Katepally, most likely propellant.
Then count the part all tenders now made 50% or higher mandatory local content clause, that suppliers have to sign & get certified. Brahmos ceo Dr Rane also said during defexpo interview that due to indigenisation effort they are now trying to get many subparts made locally. Basically that is where he mentioned NG version will be 100% Indian made, I guess he meant all parts including ramjet will be locally made. No idea how Rus gonna get their money, probably revenue share only.
Obviously we do not have exact list of which ToT got handed over. But since April-May from when those sanction issue started biting, MoD apparently told entire defense industry to create local subsystem pool. Even HAL is told to stop importing stuff & get local suppliers. So this same wave definitely hit BAPL too & they are also creating a supplier chain where for a single component, at least 2 or more vendors are eligible, before it was by nomination single vendor in most cases.
There is not any drdo program yes, but I have seen some PJ-10 work being on for some time under TBRL, now its termed as P-PJ10, don't know what it signifies or not.
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CEO is marketing the product to get backing from any of the services. We shouldn't take everything word for word. Nothing is certain unless funding is secured for full development.

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Will be ready with BrahMos-NG when IAF demands it: Dr S K Mishra

Onmanorama caught up with Dr Sudhir Kumar Mishra, the CEO & MD of BrahMos Aerospace, for an update on a missile that has no competitor yet in the.BrahMos-NG, IAF, Dr S K Mishra, BrahMos Aerospace
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For me, Brahmos-NG is still in the design stage. Some service/MoD or BAPL itself has to take the initiative to move forward. Yet to see that happening.

Can you point me to the PEL document? I went through annual reports and found no mention.
 
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For me, Brahmos-NG is still in the design stage. Some service/MoD or BAPL itself has to take the initiative to move forward. Yet to see that happening.

Can you point me to the PEL document? I went through annual reports and found no mention.
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It was in the table in page 25 of the pdf, likely from the first presentation.

For the NG, yes it is likely in design & dev stage, but consider the emphasis on export by Govt I can see this project brought forward.

 
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Oh sorry I did not get it. Yes that one ToT is for normal brahmos, NG I have yet to come across any concrete proof that it has made past design/conceptual stage.
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Meanwhile defence channels on YT reporting IAF has approached GoI to initiate talks with MBDA for local manufacturing of SCALP CM just like AASRAAM . Interesting times ahead.
 
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Meanwhile defence channels on YT reporting IAF has approached GoI to initiate talks with MBDA for local manufacturing of SCALP CM just like AASRAAM . Interesting times ahead.
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Not surprising, BEL also likely to local mfg aasm hammer. Local production of several ammo systems gaining ground.
There is an interesting DcPP coming up that involves a TBRL project.
 
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Not surprising, BEL also likely to local mfg aasm hammer. Local production of several ammo systems gaining ground.
There is an interesting DcPP coming up that involves a TBRL project.
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Larger untold story is our preparation to take on China since local mfg units have only a Ltd capacity. Meanwhile those foreign OEMs get a boost to their balance sheet by tapping the Indian market & using it as a base for exports improving their top & bottom lines given the relatively low cost of mfg.

Which is why the ostensible reason given for Tejas & the forthcoming ventures being Integrated with a virtual menagerie of weapons , are that it's required to boost the export prospects of these platforms . Yes that's a fact but equally we need to create a large pool of armaments for when we go to war , today , as we can't do it during a war.

China will not be unaware of this development . Too bad geography isn't on their side in this matter as in they can't intercept shipments. Hence those missile barrages into the hinterland I was referring to including mfg units & ports. @Rajput Lion
 
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From what I see in the industry front, priority is to gradually develop ecosystem & tech field, places where we do not have certain tech yet. Pvt companies are encouraged to build talent & tech pool, more R&D. So there is no harm in that.
One of the industry guys, data pattern summed it up well in previous call, read this whole part

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Per this it seems Premier made the bigger booster motor, 760kg one. I guess the shorter 60kg one is made by some other company. BATL also made the first 3 Nirbhay engines no idea if they are still involved? Would like to know that tbh. Who knows what testing is on the 27th January window.
Premier also made the main \/ e d a motor in 2021 its huge

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India Signs 1st Export Deal For BrahMos Cruise Missiles With The Philippines ​



ByAakriti Sharma
March 3, 2021
The Philippines will be the first country to receive the Indian-made BrahMos cruise missile, considered the world’s fastest supersonic missile.
The two countries have signed an agreement for a potential supply of the weapon, which would boost the Philippines’ coastal defense, according to reports.

Jointly developed by India and Russia, the BrahMos is a medium-range supersonic (faster than the speed of sound) missile that can be launched from submarines, ships, fighter jets, or land.
The Straits Times has reported that Philippine Defence Undersecretary Raymund Elefante and Indian Ambassador Shambu Kumaran on Tuesday signed an implementing agreement at Camp Aguinaldo, headquarters of the Armed Forces of the Philippines. The Asian country will be procuring defense material and equipment from India.
Philippine Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana was quoted by The Straits Times as saying: “We are buying the BrahMos missiles”. He did not reveal any further details of the procurement.
The agreement has been described by the defense secretary as a guide for the Philippines and India on “policies and procedures in the defense procurement” and will also serve as a “legal framework for the procurement under the government-to-government modality”.
Ambassador Kumaran and BrahMos Aerospace chief executive and managing director Sudhir Mishra had met the Philippine Army and Philippine Marines officials on separate occasions in January this year.
BrahMos supersonic cruise missile is a product of a consortium of Indian and Russian industries. They have been designed, developed, and produced by BrahMos Aerospace, a joint venture company set up by India’s state-owned Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and Mashinostroyenia of Russia.
The name BrahMos represents “the fury” of India’s Brahmaputra river and “the grace” of the Russian river Moskva.


The earliest versions of the supersonic cruise missiles have been in service with the Indian Navy and the Indian Army since 2005 and 2007 respectively. Known as the stand-off range weapons, these types of the missile are fired from a range sufficient to allow the attacker to evade defensive fire from the adversary.
Last year, India had tested an extended range of around 400 kilometers, as compared to its initial range of 290 kilometers, with more versions of higher ranges above 1,000 kilometers currently under development.
Since the missile system can be used as both coastal defense and ground attack, it would provide the Philippine military firepower in the face of threats from Chinese aggression in the South China Sea.
The Philippines has been at the receiving end of China’s expansionist plans in the South China Sea. It has recently expressed concerns over China’s new Coast Guard law, which allows the Chinese agency to open fire at foreign vessels at the slightest suspicion.
The latest agreement on the BrahMos missile marks the strengthening of strategic ties between India and the Philippines under the Modi government’s Act East Policy. Don McLain Gill, an international affairs researcher, has suggested Manila may use this partnership to get out of China’s increasing influence in the region.


“China has significantly increased its military capabilities and coercive measures in Southeast Asia, particularly in the disputed South China Sea where Taiwan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Brunei, and the Philippines also have territorial claims.
China’s expansive claims coupled with its growing assertion and disdain for a rules-based order leave little room for negotiation between it and the other claimants,” he writes for Observer Research Foundation (ORF).
At the same time, the current deal marks India’s increasing defense footprint in the Indo-Pacific. New Delhi had earlier extended a $100-million defense-related line of credit to Manila. The Economic Times has reported that the arrangement was concluded following a foreign ministers-level meet in November 2020.
The two sides had agreed to implement the arrangement through “military training and education, capacity building, regular goodwill visits and procurement of defense equipment”.
The strategic ties have been growing since 2018 when a bilateral Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) on defense and logistics was signed. Another MoU on sharing white shipping information—non-military/non-government shipping vessel information—was inked in 2020.

India Signs 1st Export Deal For BrahMos Cruise Missiles With The Philippines - Reports
Philippines signs agreement with India for world's fastest supersonic missiles
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Godrej Aerospace delivers BrahMos Technology Booster​

Mumbai, 30th January 2023: Godrej Aerospace, a unit of Godrej & Boyce Mfg. Co. Ltd., today handed over a `Technology Booster for the BrahMos project to Shri. Atul Rane, OS & Director General (BrahMos), DRDO and CEO & MD BrahMos Aerospace in the presence of Dr. G Raja Singh, Project Director, BrahMos – DRDL, Captain (IN) D K Alwan, Director MSQAA, Dr. K Ramesh Kumar, Executive Director (Production), BrahMos, Vice Admiral. S R Sarma (Retd.), Director Technical, BrahMos.
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BrahMos CEO says he may offer Russian army next-gen air-launched supersonic missile

Atul Rane suggested that discussions about supplying such missiles to Russia could begin after the de-escalation of the Ukrainian conflict
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Western sanctions will not disrupt India-Russia defence partnership: BrahMos chief | India News - Times of India

India News: MOSCOW/NEW DELHI: The India-Russia defence partnership will "never" be disrupted by the Western sanctions on Moscow, BrahMos Aerospace chief said on W.
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Well is it any surprise why they are still testing many sub-components of it & firing off 10s each year. It seems 5 more orders are placed.
 
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marich01 said:
Some parts are now being indigenised, like ToT given to pvt sectors, now their products that go on the missiles need further testing to validate it.
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What do you work as if I may ask ? Some sort of research analyst for a stock broking firm ? If not , you stand a good chance of making a career out of this hobby & who knows maybe , make a lot of money in the bargain too ?
 
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Some parts are now being indigenised, like ToT given to pvt sectors, now their products that go on the missiles need further testing to validate it.
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Ground launched version has already been tested with ecil seeker.

It seems like we were deliberately not using indigenous systems such as booster, warhead & seeker and kept importing them from Russia before the war , obviously to give them hafta.
 
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