which are not only degraded by lightning but also risk exploding in flight.
Still believing the lie I see. Well whatever gets you through life knowing that according to you F-35 can't survive lightning yet nations still select the F-35 over Rafail... Gee I wonder what they know about the Rafail that you don't... like maybe Rafail is all show and PR and is not that great as Dassault claims? I mean Dassault had to bribe India, a nation that buys anything with wings, to take their little plane.Mountain storms in Switzerland
Switzerland has purchased F-35 A
Still believing the lie I see. Well whatever gets you through life knowing that according to you F-35 can't survive lightning yet nations still select the F-35 over Rafail... Gee I wonder what they know about the Rafail that you don't... like maybe Rafail is all show and PR and is not that great as Dassault claims? I mean Dassault had to bribe India, a nation that buys anything with wings, to take their little plane.
Come on, my man, I agree our procurement procedures are crap, doesn't mean you'll sh!t all over us, eh? We never selected the modified Rafale F3R as being 'better' that the F-35. Because we already have a 5(.5)th gen fighter under development (AMCA), that will come online post 2030 and form the bulk of our manned combat airwing. But for now, we did need a highly capable 4.5th gen aircraft, that is somewhat superior to anything that the Pakistanis and Chinese can throw at us, right now. It was never 'Rafale vs F-35' for us, we never wanted a foreign 5th gen stealth aircraft in the first place, especially after the FGFA deal with the Russians fell through, but critically needed capable interim solutions, which were found to be more than fulfilled by the Dassault Rafale. Even that became very messy, until 2016. I guess the Rafale F4.2 will be as capable as the F-35, but I'm a novice, so I won't get into a traditional US vs France fistfight.......
Your f-16's and f-18's failed spectacularly in India. Using India as an example just shows your limited intelligence my American amigo. Also remember I had talked about Lobbying. You are just a bunch of shameless entitled c*nts not only the French you guys also had to bribe. We know how Americans lobby there hardware everywhere from Europe to SoKo..Still believing the lie I see. Well whatever gets you through life knowing that according to you F-35 can't survive lightning yet nations still select the F-35 over Rafail... Gee I wonder what they know about the Rafail that you don't... like maybe Rafail is all show and PR and is not that great as Dassault claims? I mean Dassault had to bribe India, a nation that buys anything with wings, to take their little plane.
Lol. F-16 lost due to politics and not wanting to fly the same fighter that Pakistan flies including same weapons. It also doesn't understand net-centric warfare which the F-16 and F-18 was going to have.
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Dassault gives away its planes even paying nations like India to buy their planes.
Bruh Our mig 21 took out Pakistani f16 with an r73 no less. It's essentially in wvr we will absolutely destroy the f16 bombtrucks..Lol. F-16 lost due to politics and not wanting to fly the same fighter that Pakistan flies including same weapons. It also doesn't understand net-centric warfare which the F-16 and F-18 was going to have.
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The moment India is offered the same equipment as Pakistan, you pretty much know it’s going to be rejected. Although, India had no hesitation buying the same manufacturer’s C-130 transport aircraft, which Pakistan also operates. However, the IAF, instead of looking at how its aircraft perform in combat situations, seems to be obsessed about fitting them with one particular missile: the European Meteor. The Meteor missile’s long range outclasses the F-16’s primary long-range air-to air weapon, the AMRAAM.
It is in fact a tribute to the F-16’s potency that the IAF wants to avoid engaging it in a dogfight and would prefer to take it out at longer ranges. In effect, it wasn’t the F-16 that irritated the IAF so much as it was the AMRAAM – after all, no matter how advanced an F-16 India was being offered, if the missiles were going to be the same as Pakistan’s (AMRAAM), the electronics differential of the launch platform wasn’t going to be much use to India.
To counter this perception, LM had a clear case that the F-16 being sold to India (the Block 70 variant, since renamed F-21) was a whole different beast from the Block 50 that Pakistan has. Beyond the superficial exterior resemblance, there’s about 40 per cent difference in terms of equipment; and the electronics derive much from the F-35’s heavily network centric architecture. As such, the F-21s are a generation ahead from anything on Pakistan’s F-16 that could be better in terms of being able to see further, ‘talk to’ other networked assets, and jam enemy frequencies better. So, even if the F-21 and F-16 use the same missile, the F-21 can detect its enemy faster and shoot first and more accurately.
Sadly, given the hodgepodge of equipment the IAF operates, almost none of which talk to each other, the IAF simply doesn’t understand networked warfare, nor does it care. Stuck in the 1980s’ mindset, the IAF still believes in kinetics while the rest of the world has moved towards electronics. The simplest explanation for this is the scene from Indiana Jones and Raiders of the Lost Ark, where an Arab swordsman comes around flaunting his sword skills and Indy simply shoots him with a revolver. Here, the IAF is the Arab swordsman, who thinks a better sword could have won him the battle, instead of transitioning to a revolver; Lockheed Martin is the revolver salesman, who futilely tries arguing with the swordsman to give up his sword for the revolver.
F-16 never stood a chance to be in IAF fleet. Lockheed Martin messed it up so much
In many ways, F-16 is a microcosm of India-US ties. Imran Khan’s meeting with Donald Trump had little role in US resuming military sales to Pakistan.
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Dassault gives away its planes even paying nations like India to buy their planes.
Sure it did.... and the sky is green too, right? US and LM already did a count and no F-16 is missing in Pakistan if anything the US didn't like the fact that their Vipers were used for offensive purposes and gave Pakistan a slap on the hand.
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Your pain is well understood & empathised with . But IAF has had the nasty reputation of shooting prized assets of the PAF with pea shooters viz the Gnats were known as Sabre slayers . PAF initially refused to admit to the losses with the US being even more mortified but had to admit to it once the evidence was made public qualifying it with a refusal to believe that it was the Gnats which it did it once evidence to that effect was furnished as well. As of now only the numbers shot down in 1965 & 1971 are disputed. Deja Vu ?
F-35 was never offered to India. Infact, F-16 was offered with F-35 as a carrot dangling. India with no experience of operating American fighters what so ever was never a good fit to buy a F-35 in the first place. All F-35 operators currently are former operators of older US platforms. Besides, if India were to procure S-400 (like we did), the question of India getting F-35 would have never arrived. I mean just imagine, India were denied F-35 deliveries AFTER making all the payments to USA. It has happened in the past with other US allies.Still believing the lie I see. Well whatever gets you through life knowing that according to you F-35 can't survive lightning yet nations still select the F-35 over Rafail... Gee I wonder what they know about the Rafail that you don't... like maybe Rafail is all show and PR and is not that great as Dassault claims? I mean Dassault had to bribe India, a nation that buys anything with wings, to take their little plane.
Really? A hindi news outlet? You're gonna have to do better than that son because notice no name is given of this so-called "DOD spokesman" and the claim from this unnamed spokesman is they are unaware that a count was taken.Haven't counted Pakistan's F-16s, says Pentagon after US magazine claimed it did
Foreign Policy magazine claimed Pakistan's F-16s were found to be intact after a count by US defence personnel, which goes against India's position that it downed one of the jets on 27 February.
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Wow. An ex-Italian that has no access to the F-35's capabilities is giving his opinion and ignorant dopes like you are buying it? Noooo really?
I know the F-35 was not offered to India yet Dassault for some reason decided it still needed to bribe Indian politicians to get them to buy the Rafale... wonder why?
So TEEHEE , if the JSF is the next best thing after the flying Pegasus or even better than it , why's the KingSnake program initiated that too for a 4.5Gen Fighter ? What's wrong with the JSF & more to the point what's wrong with the USAF ?
Kingsnake? Are you that dense? DOD or congress has not "initiated" any Kingsnake program stop believing articles that are made for gullible people like you.... And there's nothing wrong with F-35 the Swiss just selected the F-35 and next month or by the end of the year Finland will also select the F-35, but ignoramus people like you will continue to pull claims out of your butt no mater how many countries buy the F-35.
I never claimed the DoD or Congress initiated the King Snake program did I ? Yes the designation as well as the pennant number is coined by the media but the program does exist within the USAF.
I never claimed the DoD or Congress initiated the King Snake program did I ? Yes the designation as well as the pennant number is coined by the media but the program does exist within the USAF.
My query , for the benefit of dyslexics , which I shall repeat here , is why's it that the USAF has chosen to replace the F-16 with a clean sheet 4.5 Gen design instead of persisting with the F-35 as originally planned ? What's wrong with the F-35 & more importantly what's wrong with the USAF , TEEHEE ?
For the benefit of autistic dyslexics , here are a few excerpts from a popular US journal :
The Air Force is launching a study into what mix of tactical aircraft the service should field in the 2020s, Air Force Chief of Staff C.Q. Brown recently said at a media event, per Breaking Defense. The study should be complete by 2023.
The Air Force will consider a “clean sheet design” for a new “four-and-a-half-gen or fifth-gen-minus” fighter as a direct replacement for the F-16s currently in service, Brown said.
This is curious news, considering the Air Force has insisted for decades the replacement for the F-16 was the F-35A Joint Strike Fighter. The Air Force has also insisted it would never buy another non-stealthy fighter jet again.
The Air Force May Build a 4.5-Generation Fighter Jet to Replace the F-16
This wasn't supposed to happen.www.popularmechanics.com
