Why have ‘liberals’ reduced themselves to being anti-nationals?

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It is not faith but a religion. Faith is personal but religion is a civilisation based on faith. It is a fact that there were pagans initially who had developed great civilisation, had developed lot of technology and made great progress. But suddenly a few generation people betrayed the hard work done by these ancestors and instead chose to follow the opinions of arbitrary people calling them revelations purely out of stupidity, fear or greed. Aren't these people traitors?

The next generation people were brainwashed since childhood to these evil path of the traitors. Unfortunately, people are run by inertia and habits, rather than reason. When evil is imbibed into the minds, people themselves become evil. Hence the evil propagates.

The evil or good exists on this earth in the form of actors. Non living things can't be good or evil. Good or evil is purely dependent on actions of living creatures. Evil doesn't work on its own as this world needs a physical actor. People possessed by evil simply refuse to reason and instead choose to die for their unreasonable path.

please refrain from painting an entire faith as betrayers. please refrain from comparing religions. there are bad apples every where - I request that the fight should be against evil, not the people doing the evil. the effort should be to explain, not to label people as ignorant or traitors.
 
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please refrain from painting an entire faith as betrayers. please refrain from comparing religions. there are bad apples every where - I request that the fight should be against evil, not the people doing the evil. the effort should be to explain, not to label people as ignorant or traitors.

also request you to edit your post bashing all muslims.
Now you are answering what you asked me privately. I rest my case.
 
Now you are answering what you asked me privately. I rest my case.
for which i have noted and politely requested the member to change the messages.
it is possible to be firm and polite at the same time.
mud slinging from both sides only makes the river murky
cleaning up together makes it good for everyone.
 
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It is not faith but a religion. Faith is personal but religion is a civilisation based on faith. It is a fact that there were pagans initially who had developed great civilisation, had developed lot of technology and made great progress. But suddenly a few generation people betrayed the hard work done by these ancestors and instead chose to follow the opinions of arbitrary people calling them revelations purely out of stupidity, fear or greed. Aren't these people traitors?

The next generation people were brainwashed since childhood to these evil path of the traitors. Unfortunately, people are run by inertia and habits, rather than reason. When evil is imbibed into the minds, people themselves become evil. Hence the evil propagates.

The evil or good exists on this earth in the form of actors. Non living things can't be good or evil. Good or evil is purely dependent on actions of living creatures. Evil doesn't work on its own as this world needs a physical actor. People possessed by evil simply refuse to reason and instead choose to die for their unreasonable path.

i understand you have passionate views on the topic. but painting a complete community in this light is wrong. there are good and bad aspects in many cultures, religions, traditions etc. in fact "good" and "bad" are also subject to change.

whichever way, openly and blatantly painting a complete faith and all its followers should not be practiced. you can bring out points of what specifically is an issue - but this is not the place for that either.
this is the second time I am politely requesting - kindly change your messages so as to not paint an entire community.
 
i understand you have passionate views on the topic. but painting a complete community in this light is wrong. there are good and bad aspects in many cultures, religions, traditions etc. in fact "good" and "bad" are also subject to change.

whichever way, openly and blatantly painting a complete faith and all its followers should not be practiced. you can bring out points of what specifically is an issue - but this is not the place for that either.
this is the second time I am politely requesting - kindly change your messages so as to not paint an entire community.

I am only calling a spade a spade. I never painted anything or anyone. I am speaking on the basis of facts and evidence. Did you notice that I didn't even mention the name of any community but was just giving out details of how evil worked and works?

Specifically, the issue is that truth is being forced out and opinion is being imposed. The reason that there is technology, invention, innovation etc is due to exploring of truth. Only the creator's opinion is ultimate and that is what we call as truth. Anyone else's opinion is bound to be filled with inaccuracies and contradict the truth. By adhering to arbitrary opinion of arbitrary people which can't be questioned, one is only subjecting himself to slavery. When the slave tries to subject even the non-slaves into slavery, a need arises to take decisive action.

Truth is paramount and anything that imposes an opinion is essentially trying to make life meaningless, destroy all amount of progress made over generations and to prevent any further progress and exploration. To ensure technology progresses well, to ensure that life becomes more stable, to ensure that we are eventually able to find out about the meaning of life and origins of the universe, the only way is to proceed in the path of truth and pursuing knowledge relentlessly. Any effort to scuttle the process of exploration, to cause absolute chaos or to obscure and destroy knowledge accumulated in the path must be dealt with severely without any mercy.
 
Words Socialist &
Secular were introduced in 1974 during Emergency Indira gandhi.
Who is Socialist now? When she can change Constitution anyone can. The only ones opposing will be Congis lefties who are a minority now as they fail to even make a mark in elections.
People voted for BJP for a change, after 10 years of cong rule.
Just because BJP comes to power does not mean, Hindutwa-RSS gang can make BJP MLA/MPs do whatever they want.:p
RSS-VHP etc will remain just pressure groups, with some leverage on BJP.

As BJP expands it will gain votes from different communities. And BJP will have to keep all its voter communities happy and RSS leverage on BJP decreases.

There are groups within BJP who want those two words to remain in Constitution.
Here is a socialist group exerting pressure on BJP
Anantkumar Hegde apologises for his remarks on Constitution
BJP distances itself from Union Minister Anantkumar Hegde's Constitution comment -- BJP yields :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Hope it clears your illusions,... this is why I colored the words... socialist and secular
There are some lines which cannot be crossed, BJP will stay within its limits.;)
 
People voted for BJP for a change, after 10 years of cong rule.
Just because BJP comes to power does not mean, Hindutwa-RSS gang can make BJP MLA/MPs do whatever they want.:p
RSS-VHP etc will remain just pressure groups, with some leverage on BJP.

As BJP expands it will gain votes from different communities. And BJP will have to keep all its voter communities happy and RSS leverage on BJP decreases.

There are groups within BJP who want those two words to remain in Constitution.
Here is a socialist group exerting pressure on BJP
Anantkumar Hegde apologises for his remarks on Constitution
BJP distances itself from Union Minister Anantkumar Hegde's Constitution comment -- BJP yields :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Hope it clears your illusions,... this is why I colored the words... socialist and secular
There are some lines which cannot be crossed, BJP will stay within its limits.;)

BJP would be in power well beyond 2024.
To change constitution BJP needs2/3rd majority in Rajya Sabha which they will get in 2019.
Socialist nobody is now.
Secular all can be changed .Constitution was amended 40+ times.
You think those lines cant be crossed? Nobody dreamt of GST or Demonetization overnight.
All such lines exist only in Congis, lefties minds who are a minority now.
 
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BJP would be in power well beyond 2024.
To change constitution BJP needs2/3rd majority in Rajya Sabha which they will get in 2019.
Socialist nobody is now.
Secular all can be changed .Constitution was amended 40+ times.
You think those lines cant be crossed? Nobody dreamt of GST or Demonetization overnight.
All such lines exist only in Congis, lefties minds who are a minority now.
Keep repeating those words congi-lefties again and again, 2014 was zenith for Modi. It will only be downhill for Modi...
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/to-defeat-mahachor-bjp-we-can-support-chor-congress-hardik-patel/story-6p9p9rJ0Q5DsLMy3t4wIIJ.html
Hope you get the perception that's building... Modi wave is fading and BJP is contemplating early elections.
Is BJP plotting an early general election in April?
 
People voted for BJP for a change, after 10 years of cong rule.
Just because BJP comes to power does not mean, Hindutwa-RSS gang can make BJP MLA/MPs do whatever they want.:p
RSS-VHP etc will remain just pressure groups, with some leverage on BJP.

As BJP expands it will gain votes from different communities. And BJP will have to keep all its voter communities happy and RSS leverage on BJP decreases.

There are groups within BJP who want those two words to remain in Constitution.
Here is a socialist group exerting pressure on BJP
Anantkumar Hegde apologises for his remarks on Constitution
BJP distances itself from Union Minister Anantkumar Hegde's Constitution comment -- BJP yields :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Hope it clears your illusions,... this is why I colored the words... socialist and secular
There are some lines which cannot be crossed, BJP will stay within its limits.;)
Keep repeating those words congi-lefties again and again, 2014 was zenith for Modi. It will only be downhill for Modi...
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/to-defeat-mahachor-bjp-we-can-support-chor-congress-hardik-patel/story-6p9p9rJ0Q5DsLMy3t4wIIJ.html
Hope you get the perception that's building... Modi wave is fading and BJP is contemplating early elections.
Is BJP plotting an early general election in April?

Just shut your blabbering of opinions. People act differently during different stages of time. BJP is bound due to pressure from oil suppliers, not due to anything else. If BJP ever comes to losing elections, anything can be done. Unless foreign powers don't interfere, it is all good. But if foreign interests meddle, then things will be far different. BJP is capable of doing everything including changing constitution. Don't speak too much as before losing elections, anything and everything will be tried. BJP has people's support and large cadre base.

There is no limit except the need to win elections. There will be no early elections. Elections in April was how it was done in 2014. Same pattern will be followed in 2019. Other parties are punching way above their weight. If the bluff is called, things will turn out very bad for them and their followers.
 
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@Superkaif I disagree, infowarrior definitely spams by creating new threads based on individual articles and then peppering them with tweets and graphics from random people. Some of his graphics are just sentences in big font and color. He also copies the same posts on multiple threads.

I dont know what else qualifies as spamming.
Perhaps I haven’t been around long enough and will bow to your knowledge - however it’s interesting to see you homing in on his post and skip the guy who has been warned twice on this thread for border line hatred. Any reason why you haven’t commented on the hatred friend?
 
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Not everyone can be loved. There will be a balance between love and hatred according to merit. I will love somethings and hate somethings according to merit. I don't see a reason to behave in an imbalanced manner at all.

There is no one who is capable of warning me. I will simply quit the forum if bullshit is played with unjustified reasons. I am no slave.
Perhaps I haven’t been around long enough and will bow to your knowledge - however it’s interesting to see you homing in on his post and skip the guy who has been warned twice on this thread for border line hatred. Any reason why you haven’t commented on the hatred friend?
 
Perhaps I haven’t been around long enough and will bow to your knowledge - however it’s interesting to see you homing in on his post and skip the guy who has been warned twice on this thread for border line hatred. Any reason why you haven’t commented on the hatred friend?

Because I agree that sharma dude is crazy. He has such wild opinions its weird.

In india sharma types are easily branded right wing nutjobs, which they are, but info warrior type hate mongers manage to get branded as liberals, which
they are not.

Hence selective it may seem, but it does bother me more.
 
Because I agree that sharma dude is crazy. He has such wild opinions its weird.

In india sharma types are easily branded right wing nutjobs, which they are, but info warrior type hate mongers manage to get branded as liberals, which
they are not.

Hence selective it may seem, but it does bother me more.
Thanks for the info about Sharma types. We taking a pharmacy over today and the manager is a sharma! ?
 
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Just shut your blabbering of opinions. People act differently during different stages of time. BJP is bound due to pressure from oil suppliers, not due to anything else. If BJP ever comes to losing elections, anything can be done. Unless foreign powers don't interfere, it is all good. But if foreign interests meddle, then things will be far different. BJP is capable of doing everything including changing constitution. Don't speak too much as before losing elections, anything and everything will be tried. BJP has people's support and large cadre base.

There is no limit except the need to win elections. There will be no early elections. Elections in April was how it was done in 2014. Same pattern will be followed in 2019. Other parties are punching way above their weight. If the bluff is called, things will turn out very bad for them and their followers.
If People can act differently during different stages of time like a Chameleon, that's also shameless. Then why can't people change their religion and belief during different stages of time.

Yes I know if BJP comes to losing elections, it changes it's colour, from Development to beef-gaumatha-ram-mandir-pakistan-kashmir. BJP will only do things that it's voters allow it to do. You can kill Gauri Lankesh but you can't kill an idea. Now we know the power of our vote, we will vote strategically. We will not waste it on beef or any other non-issue, never again.
Good luck to you in your future endeavors.
 
Just shut your blabbering of opinions. People act differently during different stages of time. BJP is bound due to pressure from oil suppliers, not due to anything else. If BJP ever comes to losing elections, anything can be done. Unless foreign powers don't interfere, it is all good. But if foreign interests meddle, then things will be far different. BJP is capable of doing everything including changing constitution. Don't speak too much as before losing elections, anything and everything will be tried. BJP has people's support and large cadre base.

There is no limit except the need to win elections. There will be no early elections. Elections in April was how it was done in 2014. Same pattern will be followed in 2019. Other parties are punching way above their weight. If the bluff is called, things will turn out very bad for them and their followers.
If People can act differently during different stages of time like a Chameleon, that's also shameless. Then why can't people change their religion and belief during different stages of time.

Yes I know if BJP comes to losing elections, it changes it's colour, from Development to beef-gaumatha-ram-mandir-pakistan-kashmir. BJP will only do things that it's voters allow it to do. You can kill Gauri Lankesh but you can't kill an idea. Now we know the power of our vote, we will vote strategically. We will not waste it on beef or any other non-issue, never again.
Good luck to you in your future endeavors.
 
If People can act differently during different stages of time like a Chameleon, that's also shameless. Then why can't people change their religion and belief during different stages of time.

Yes I know if BJP comes to losing elections, it changes it's colour, from Development to beef-gaumatha-ram-mandir-pakistan-kashmir. BJP will only do things that it's voters allow it to do. You can kill Gauri Lankesh but you can't kill an idea. Now we know the power of our vote, we will vote strategically. We will not waste it on beef or any other non-issue, never again.
Good luck to you in your future endeavors.
Who are you here? You never voted BJP and your vote doesn't matter.

Gauri was killed by peaceful people, not by BJP. So, no need to speak nonsense.

Only morons act identical at all times. At night, one sleeps and at day one goes to office. That doesn't mean one will change the religion every day and night. Don't be insane .
 
Who are you here? You never voted BJP and your vote doesn't matter.

Gauri was killed by peaceful people, not by BJP. So, no need to speak nonsense.

Only morons act identical at all times. At night, one sleeps and at day one goes to office. That doesn't mean one will change the religion every day and night. Don't be insane .


It is absolutely hilarious to see Infowarrior threatening to vote against BJP, dude runs the propaganda arm for commies, leftists and Jihadists on this forum and then expects us to believe him as a a neutral who will shift his vote ROFLMAO !!
 
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