Ukraine - Russia Flare Up

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Maybe so, but the irony is that Kissinger now agrees that Ukraine should cede territory to Russia. He has always been an idiot wrt foreign policy, you won't hear many westerners speak highly of him or Nixon. Should you copy idiots or strive to be better?

From the European perspective, this is basically like China invading Bangladesh or Nepal.
Present Kissinger's of west are not different from past. Current ones tuned blind eye to all the aggression of Putin till the invasion. They kept building pipeline when they should have been building LNG terminals. They had so much time to prepare. Woken up too late and asking others to shut Putin out while they are paying him daily in his currently of choice.

If this is an invasion of Nepal or Bhutan by china, we are far better prepared and we are not dependent on enemy for basic stuff.

So don't give us your false equivalence!.
 

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Somebody has a sore butt.


Two Russian banks involved in sanctions against North Korea's nuclear program.

 

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Present Kissinger's of west are not different from past. Current ones tuned blind eye to all the aggression of Putin till the invasion. They kept building pipeline when they should have been building LNG terminals. They had so much time to prepare. Woken up too late and asking others to shut Putin out while they are paying him daily in his currently of choice.

If this is an invasion of Nepal or Bhutan by china, we are far better prepared and we are not dependent on enemy for basic stuff.

So don't give us your false equivalence!.
I wasn't talking about the state of military preparedness, merely how the act itself would be viewed locally. But you make a good point. Whilst some say this war was a trap for Russia, the opposite is true. If it had been then Ukraine would have been well supplied with weapons in advance, not weeks and months after the fact.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces destroyed the Russian tank together with the crew


Russian invaders suffer another loss from the Ukrainian "Stugna"

 
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Now even The stooge and a joker called Zelensky has agreed that UA is collapsing all across the front. But this has not been shown to western world but available to all those who are able to see open media not controlled by West. I had predicted it longtime back as to what will be the outcome of this war. Many idiots are citing the use of old tanks like T-62 in the war as an evidence of RA running out of tanks. But do you know, Indian Army even today uses Vijayanta tanks in dug in positions along LOC? Tanks maybe old But the gun fires. This precisely how the RA will use T-62s and even T-35s.
Now let us come to Europe. I had always maintained that this war is not about destruction of Russia but about destruction of Europe. How many countries now have the ability to fight Russia after having transferred their tanks, Guns and other stuff to Ukraine? Except for France, none.
So what is the future of Europe if they continue to follow the dictate of US and its poodle? A Europe below the so called third world, a completely devastated Europe. Now Poland is being asked to take over parts of Ukraine territory. Do you what will it lead to? Russia will attack whole of Europe and NATO and it will not go conventional with NATO but will go Nuclear.
Russia will open up thru pre-emptive strikes against whole of Europe which has NATO concentrations and than it will bring to table all its might and also incite the very large muslim population of Europe to fight against native Europeans. Most of these muslims are refugees and pro communists.
Russia has never been a true democracy. And it will never be. And same is true about most so called civilizations of Europe.
Do you know what exactly is happenning? This is repeat of Afghanistan. NATO was paying an army of over 350K but only 65K people were there in Afghan army. We Indians knew it from very first day. rest were all ghost soldiers. These Ghost soldiers were created to siphon off money of US and NATO tax payers to arms manufacturers and military contrators.
Now what is happenning in Uktaine? It is repeat of Afghanistan. US+ NATO members population will be told that they are paying taxes and suffering to save European lives, while the equipment and so called money will never reach Ukraine and end up in the pockets of a privilaged few who supported Biden.
The money of Europe and US tax payers is again being swindelled by Rothman's children. Voila France and Germany. You will go down below Somalia very soon in development index. Be prepared to shit in your streets.
 
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Another Russian Su-34 death has been visually verified but I never heard anything about it being shot down. Maybe this guy just takes his time to get round to all the destroyed vehicles, there is a lot of them.

Now even The stooge and a joker called Zelensky has agreed that UA is collapsing all across the front. But this has not been shown to western world but available to all those who are able to see open media not controlled by West. I had predicted it longtime back as to what will be the outcome of this war. Many idiots are citing the use of old tanks like T-62 in the war as an evidence of RA running out of tanks. But do you know, Indian Army even today uses Vijayanta tanks in dug in positions along LOC? Tanks maybe old But the gun fires. This precisely how the RA will use T-62s and even T-35s.
Now let us come to Europe. I had always maintained that this war is not about destruction of Russia but about destruction of Europe. How many countries now have the ability to fight Russia after having transferred their tanks, Guns and other stuff to Ukraine? Except for France, none.
So what is the future of Europe if they continue to follow the dictate of US and its poodle? A Europe below the so called third world, a completely devastated Europe. Now Poland is being asked to take over parts of Ukraine territory. Do you what will it lead to? Russia will attack whole of Europe and NATO and it will not go conventional with NATO but will go Nuclear.
Russia will open up thru pre-emptive strikes against whole of Europe which has NATO concentrations and than it will bring to table all its might and also incite the very large muslim population of Europe to fight against native Europeans. Most of these muslims are refugees and pro communists.
Russia has never been a true democracy. And it will never be. And same is true about most so called civilizations of Europe.
Do you know what exactly is happenning? This is repeat of Afghanistan. NATO was paying an army of over 350K but only 65K people were there in Afghan army. We Indians knew it from very first day. rest were all ghost soldiers. These Ghost soldiers were created to siphon off money of US and NATO tax payers to arms manufacturers and military contrators.
Now what is happenning in Uktaine? It is repeat of Afghanistan. US+ NATO members population will be told that they are paying taxes and suffering to save European lives, while the equipment and so called money will never reach Ukraine and end up in the pockets of a privilaged few who supported Biden.
The money of Europe and US tax payers is again being swindelled by Rothman's children. Voila France and Germany. You will go down below Somalia very soon in development index. Be prepared to shit in your streets.
Stop, stop, my sides are hurting, this is inhumane. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

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Now even The stooge and a joker called Zelensky has agreed that UA is collapsing all across the front. But this has not been shown to western world but available to all those who are able to see open media not controlled by West. I had predicted it longtime back as to what will be the outcome of this war. Many idiots are citing the use of old tanks like T-62 in the war as an evidence of RA running out of tanks. But do you know, Indian Army even today uses Vijayanta tanks in dug in positions along LOC? Tanks maybe old But the gun fires. This precisely how the RA will use T-62s and even T-35s.
Now let us come to Europe. I had always maintained that this war is not about destruction of Russia but about destruction of Europe. How many countries now have the ability to fight Russia after having transferred their tanks, Guns and other stuff to Ukraine? Except for France, none.
So what is the future of Europe if they continue to follow the dictate of US and its poodle? A Europe below the so called third world, a completely devastated Europe. Now Poland is being asked to take over parts of Ukraine territory. Do you what will it lead to? Russia will attack whole of Europe and NATO and it will not go conventional with NATO but will go Nuclear.
Russia will open up thru pre-emptive strikes against whole of Europe which has NATO concentrations and than it will bring to table all its might and also incite the very large muslim population of Europe to fight against native Europeans. Most of these muslims are refugees and pro communists.
Russia has never been a true democracy. And it will never be. And same is true about most so called civilizations of Europe.
Do you know what exactly is happenning? This is repeat of Afghanistan. NATO was paying an army of over 350K but only 65K people were there in Afghan army. We Indians knew it from very first day. rest were all ghost soldiers. These Ghost soldiers were created to siphon off money of US and NATO tax payers to arms manufacturers and military contrators.
Now what is happenning in Uktaine? It is repeat of Afghanistan. US+ NATO members population will be told that they are paying taxes and suffering to save European lives, while the equipment and so called money will never reach Ukraine and end up in the pockets of a privilaged few who supported Biden.
The money of Europe and US tax payers is again being swindelled by Rothman's children. Voila France and Germany. You will go down below Somalia very soon in development index. Be prepared to shit in your streets.
Stop supporting the country who send a bomber in support to a Chinese bomber to Japanese coast,when your PM was visiting there.
 

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Another Russian Su-34 death has been visually verified but I never heard anything about it being shot down. Maybe this guy just takes his time to get round to all the destroyed vehicles, there is a lot of them.


Stop, stop, my sides are hurting, this is inhumane. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Truth is what you dont want to see. No one can make a person see the truth if he decides to keep his eyes shut. Europe is one such example.
Stop supporting the country who send a bomber in support to a Chinese bomber to Japanese coast,when your PM was visiting there.
Does that have anything to do with us? Was Indian territory violated? Who came to our support when Galwan Happened? We faught out ourselves and that is what we must concentrate on. Do you think US and so called QUAD will help us? They will put us in direct confrontaion with Chinese at a time of their choosing, while we will fight Chinese at a time of our choosing and defeat them. I have always maintained in all my posts that India has the largest land frotier with China with an army trained to fight on high altitude. We dont need QUAD. They need us to safe guard Japan, Taiwan and Australia.
Do you remember 1962 war with China? What conditions did US put on us to support us? We had to give them bases for recce flights against China and Russia in 1963 and Kalikonda base was one such base for them.
 

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US estimate says Russia has lost close to 1,000 tanks.


Ukrainian estimate - not that far off.


Nice democarcy.


Assassinations to follow shortly.
 
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The Ukrainian Armed Forces counterattacked on the southern front. The racists have taken up defense on the unequipped frontiers and are suffering significant losses. Reported in the operational command South. Instead, the invaders continue to fire on civilian infrastructure along the administrative boundaries of Mykolayiv region. In addition, in the Kherson region, the enemy completely blocked the way to the territories controlled by Ukraine.
Truth is what you dont want to see. No one can make a person see the truth if he decides to keep his eyes shut. Europe is one such example.
You are one such example.
 

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Truth is what you dont want to see. No one can make a person see the truth if he decides to keep his eyes shut. Europe is one such example.

Does that have anything to do with us? Was Indian territory violated? Who came to our support when Galwan Happened? We faught out ourselves and that is what we must concentrate on. Do you think US and so called QUAD will help us? They will put us in direct confrontaion with Chinese at a time of their choosing, while we will fight Chinese at a time of our choosing and defeat them. I have always maintained in all my posts that India has the largest land frotier with China with an army trained to fight on high altitude. We dont need QUAD. They need us to safe guard Japan, Taiwan and Australia.
Do you remember 1962 war with China? What conditions did US put on us to support us? We had to give them bases for recce flights against China and Russia in 1963 and Kalikonda base was one such base for them.
Fact is, The Chinese did,and Russia assisted china against a coalition created to contain the china. So yeas, indirectly Russia had supported china the 2019 incident in 2022 by doing so.

I am not that much old guy to know things happened in 62 by person, but if your statement is true, we miss the bus/oppertunity to rip Chinese apart in 60s itself. Stupid Nehru, I do agree that he is a visionary when comes to values of democracy, progressive thinking etc but a shit head when comes strategic objectives.