T-90 Bhishma / T-72 Ajeya of Indian Army : News and Discussions

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The indigenous barrel is superior to the Russian supplied barrel. I don't know by how much, but the EFC (number of shells a barrel can shoot before it becomes useless) is supposed to be many times higher. Even the indigenous T-72 barrel had 2.5 to 3 times the EFC as that of a Russian barrrel. We simply use more expensive materials and better autofrettaging techniques.
LOL indigenous barrel is not superior to anything russian. Why don't you provide source for your claim.
 
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I highly doubt a APFSDS with a penetration capability of 600-800mm RHA at 2km would be made which is compatible with the existing 2A46M smoothbore gun and the existing autoloader system.
Penetration is directly dependent on the length of the APFSDS round and the 2A46M cannot accommodate rounds bigger than the Mango round.
Either we will have to use better materials like DU to achieve better penetration or we would require a new gun and autoloader on the exisiting T-72,T-90 fleet.
Existing T 90 gun autoloader can achieve 600mm+ penetration. Svinets 2 can achieve 600mm+ penetration from current gun without changing autoloader while with new autoloader it can hit 700mm easily. if army RFI to be believe you would need a DU round and new autoloader to achieve anything greater than 700mm penetration. but russian won't sell Svinets 1 so you have to develop it on your own.
 
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LOL indigenous barrel is not superior to anything russian. Why don't you provide source for your claim.

The Indian T-72 barrel has an EFC of 1700 versus the Russian supplied barrel with EFC of 250.

There's nothing weird about Russian equipment having shoddy build quality, globally known, which we have drastially improved upon after we begin license production.
 

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The Indian T-72 barrel has an EFC of 1700 versus the Russian supplied barrel with EFC of 250.

There's nothing weird about Russian equipment having shoddy build quality, globally known, which we have drastially improved upon after we begin license production.
BS provide source.

Nope. Our gun, the 2A46M, can only manage 450-500mm. With a new shell, they are trying to achieve about 550mm.

What you are referring to is the latest 2A46M-5, which is only present on the T-90MS and the T-90M.


Any tank will become like that if you hit it from the side.
2A46M can achieve 600m+ penetration . mango M APFSDS has certified penetration of 560mm LOS at 2km according to manufacturer itself. Svinets 2 can be fired using 2A46M using upgraded loader & it has 600m+ pen.

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BS provide source.

You will have to find it yourself. Google 2A46 Maple, it's OFB's gun with thier own barrel made using their own production techniques.

2A46M can achieve 600m+ penetration . mango M APFSDS has certified penetration of 560mm LOS at 2km according to manufacturer itself. Svinets 2 can be fired using 2A46M using upgraded loader & it has 600m+ pen.


Lol. Okay.
 
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None of OFB 125mm gun are better than russian gun. You either provide source or take your words back.

Not gun. Barrel. You will have to find it yourself. It will help you find other things in the process. 2A46 Maple autofrettage.


No clue what you want me to see, but the gun we have on the T-90 is the 2A46M. Only 2A46M-2 was upgraded to handle long rods. The biggest round we can use is the Mango. For Lekalo and Svinets, we need the new 2A46M-5.
 

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Not gun. Barrel. You will have to find it yourself. It will help you find other things in the process. 2A46 Maple autofrettage.
Ha ha! I will tell you there is no such barrel superior to russian one either.

No clue what you want me to see, but the gun we have on the T-90 is the 2A46M. Only 2A46M-2 was upgraded to handle long rods. The biggest round we can use is the Mango. For Lekalo and Svinets, we need the new 2A46M-5.
2A46M gun on our T 90 can fire svinets 2 ( the round on the above pic is svinets 2 ). You don't need a new gun , just need to upgrade autoloader. It's written on it. DOP will be low though.
Mango M/ lekalo are same.
 
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