Rafale RB of Indian Air Force : News and Discussions

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Now the question is when all the remaining jets will get the ISE upgrades. It was originally supposed to happen by Sept.

Both S-400 and Rafale seem to have seen a 6-month delay.
The last Rafale was delivered around March 2022, the date has not been made public, it was India that decided to convoy it to the national soil only now, we don't know why either. It may be for further testing to refine tactics for the use of ISEs for example, or to expand the field of use of Indian weapons. It could also be for new demands or training.

Since March some Rafales in India have received ISE, but again it is not known how many.

It seems that the last three Rafales convoyed to India in February 2022 had ISEs, that these were tested in operation in India and that the requests for improvements were introduced and validated on the test Rafale before it was convoyed to India.
 
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The last Rafale was delivered around March 2022, the date has not been made public, it was India that decided to convoy it to the national soil only now, we don't know why either. It may be for further testing to refine tactics for the use of ISEs for example, or to expand the field of use of Indian weapons. It could also be for new demands or training.

Since March some Rafales in India have received ISE, but again it is not known how many.

It seems that the last three Rafales convoyed to India in February 2022 had ISEs, that these were tested in operation in India and that the requests for improvements were introduced and validated on the test Rafale before it was convoyed to India.

All the Rafales were delivered in time. But it appears there was a slight delay in developing and testing the ISE. What we know is new technologies were added since 2016, we do not know what all. The B-NET SDR is all I can think of right now. Possibly other Israeli tech.
 

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I'll wait while someone puts up the Greek F-16, beating the Rafale in exercises.
Since the first Red Flag trial with Rafale we knew Rafale is far better than F16 in all fields. Even if the Rafale pilots say that F16 remains one of the fierce opponent, better than EF2000 for exemple.
LOL..Someone will put up past Greek exercises. Where their F-16 snotted the Rafale.
Rafale driven by qatar pilots maybe ? :ROFLMAO:
 

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As of December 31, 2022, the order book includes:
• 164 Rafale versus 86 Rafale as of December 31, 2021.

(Indonesia has placed orders only for 06 airframes till now).
164 Rafales at 24 airframes a year is 7 years. And a 33+ is just 5 years.
Whats current per year production capacity?
 

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Thats overall rafale production?! i thought it will be touching 30
UAE hopes its orders from 2026. That's the biggest chunk.

Apart from that, its Egypt's order only which is major one remaining.

Qatar is almost done.

Greece and Indonesia are small ones.
So till 2024, I expect it to be like 15 only.
 

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Egypt has 30 on order to be delivered between 2024-2026.

UAE has 80 to be delivered starting 2026.

Greece ordered 12 new units and 12 used. So Greece will likely get 12 new units uptill 2024.

Qatar has like 4-5 units remaining.

Croatia has 12 used ones on order.

And France will buy whatever is necessary to keep running the line at bare minimum till 2024.
Indonesia has 6 on order now. Rest 42 will likely be ordered to be delivered from 2025-27ies time frame.
 

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Egypt has 30 on order to be delivered between 2024-2026.

UAE has 80 to be delivered starting 2026.

Greece ordered 12 new units and 12 used. So Greece will likely get 12 new units uptill 2024.

Qatar has like 4-5 units remaining.

Croatia has 12 used ones on order.

And France will buy whatever is necessary to keep running the line at bare minimum till 2024.
Indonesia has 6 on order now. Rest 42 will likely be ordered to be delivered from 2025-27ies time frame.
Meaning even if we order now or 2-3 yrs down the line either to fulfill the 36 nos thru import or 114 thru MRFA , we won't see imports happen 3 yrs onwards like in the first tranche . In all probability it'd take 4-5 yrs for first deliveries to commence . What's your view on this delivery schedule ? @Picdelamirand-oil
 
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Meaning even if we order now or 2-3 yrs down the line either to fulfill the 36 nos thru import or 114 thru MRFA , we won't see imports happen 3 yrs onwards like in the first tranche . In all probability it'd take 4-5 yrs for first deliveries to commence . What's your view on this delivery schedule ? @Picdelamirand-oil


If IAF gives up on any new Procurement for 2023 and signs the MRFA, then it's fine. One issue solved, else.
 

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If IAF gives up on any new Procurement for 2023 and signs the MRFA, then it's fine. One issue solved, else.
The RFP was finally to be released last Dec . Then it got mysteriously postponed to June 23. For an air force desperately starved of numbers with squadrons retiring by the yr , the initiative shown by the IAF & alacrity with which it's proceeding in this matter is certainly commendable .

And you're expecting us to sign on the agreement this yr .
 
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The RFP was finally to be released last Dec . Then it got mysteriously postponed to June 23. For am air force desperately starved of numbers with squadrons retiring by the yr , the initiative & alacrity with which IAF is proceeding in this matter is certainly commendable .

And you're expecting us to sign on the agreement this yr .
I expect them to sign the deal in 2025.

I hope they sign it in 2023.