Punjab, Himachal Pradesh, Uttarakhand and J&K : Political Discussions

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Worst will be Punjab going to AAP.
I always thought they were the dark horse of the race but I also thought Punjab would most likely have a hung assembly with AAP emerging as the party with the most seats & in all probability they'd tie up with a weakened Congress to form the government. It seems they're sweeping the elections with a 2/3rd majority. That's a heavy win.

I guess in hindsight it can be said that even with Capt Amarinder Singh in the Congress , they'd have faced heavy competition from AAP.

As things stand , the Congress is decimated & Capt Amarinder Singh's carrier over . But let's wait for the official results.

In any event , both Capt Amarinder Singh & Parkash Singh Badal have fought the last election of their carrier which by no means can be described as glittering at least in the latter's case .
 
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Khattar hits back: Chandigarh is, will remain capital of both Haryana, Punjab​

Calling Punjab government’s resolution seeking transfer of the Union Territory of Chandigarh to the state a “one-sided” move that is “meaningless”, Haryana Chief Minister Manohar Lal Khattar on Friday said Chandigarh is the joint capital of Haryana and Punjab and will remain so.

Addressing the media in Gurgaon, Khattar said, “Chandigarh was made capital of both states. The ratio of 60:40 (Punjab Reorganisation Act) in employees, buildings, etc, is continuing for long.”

He said, “The Punjab government’s one-sided resolution has no meaning. This is not the first time this has come up. These resolutions have been brought earlier as well. There is no point in recommending such a resolution…since this is not only a subject of Punjab but also of Haryana; even the people of Himachal Pradesh claim their share.”

He said the Supreme Court had once held that Himachal Pradesh has right to 7.19 per cent of Chandigarh’s land under Punjab Reorganisation Act, 1966. “It is a different matter that Himachal Pradesh has declared Shimla as its capital. So all three states have a stake in it (Chandigarh),” he said.

Khattar added, “Chandigarh is the capital of Punjab and Haryana…aur dono ki hi rahegi (and it will remain the capital of both). If there is any topic for discussion, then only Chandigarh is not the issue. There are multiple issues – SYL (Satluj Yamuna link canal) , Hindi speaking areas also. So, things can proceed when there is review of all issues among the stakeholders. This one-sided resolution is bemaani,” he said.

The chief minister was addressing media persons after chairing a meeting with industrialists and real estate developers to discuss the proposed Global City project in Gurgaon on Friday afternoon.

Emphasising that Chandigarh is capital of both Punjab and Haryana, “aur dono ki hi rahegi (will remain the capital of both states)”, Khattar said, “If there is any topic for discussion, then only Chandigarh is not the issue. There are multiple issues — the Satluj Yamuna link canal, Hindi-speaking areas (among others). Things can proceed when there is review of all issues among the stakeholders. This one-sided resolution is bemaani (meaningless).”

Khattar, who spoke with the media after chairing a meeting with industrialists and real estate developers to discuss the proposed Global City project in Gurgaon, pointed out that Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh and Chandigarh came into existence through the Punjab Reorganisation Act.

On the Centre’s move to align service conditions of all employees of the UT with the Central Civil Services, Khattar said the decision was taken considering the interest of employees in Chandigarh, and that the Punjab government is misleading people on this. “Employees of Chandigarh will benefit from this decision,” he asserted. “Earlier, they had to depend on Punjab for every government order. Previously, the orders on allowances or other benefits, issued by the Centre, were implemented in Chandigarh only after the Punjab government issued a notification. But after this decision, these orders would be directly applicable to the UT employees.”

Stating that Punjab is yet to pass on benefits of the 7th Pay Commission to its employees, Khattar said Haryana implemented it back in 2016, and that employees in Chandigarh who had been deprived of these benefits will now be able to avail them.

On Haryana government’s decision to abolish rule 134A of Haryana School Education Rules, 2003, which had provisions to reserve 10 per cent seats in private schools for meritorious students from Economically Weaker Section (EWS) families, Khattar said, “RTE did not exist when rule 134A was made. The Act, implemented across the country, has provision to reserve 25 percent seats for admission of students from poor and EWS families in private schools. In Haryana, rule 134A had provisions to reserve 10 percent seats. We are following the Centre’s RTE, and under RTE 25 percent students from poor families will be able to secure admission and this will benefit more people.”
 
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This is very interesting discussion which covers the entire arc of Sikh politics from the roots of the so called reformist "Singh Sabha movement " in the late 19th century right upto the Kisan agitation last year & everything in between . It traces the rise of the SGPC & it's constituent party the Akali Dal which later went on to dominate the former & the close almost conjoined nature of the two .

Finally it also details the corrosive effects that JuttSikhi which as of now has come to dominate both the SGPC , the Akali Dal & the politics in Punjab since the state reorganization right thru the terrorism there , the causes that birthed that latter & how & why it was crushed but the underlying reasons of which continue till date with the Khalistani movement now having shifted it's CoG overseas among the diaspora Sikhs . The overall picture painted of the future of Punjab is very bleak .

This is a discussion between Rohit Pathania - a Punjabi Hindu Rajput & Arihant Pawariya - Hindu Jat from Haryana . Hence the discussion could be seen as slanted towards the Hindu PoV especially since there's almost no discussion whatsoever of the aftermath of IG's assassination in Delhi & N India & the role it had along with Operation Bluestar in fomenting terrorism in Punjab .

This is a very under rated channel . Although it's HRW , it doesn't give a platform to the loony fringe & the guest list is almost always top notch with the discourse being of a very high standard. The only drawback is the entire discussion is in Hindi with no sub titles which obviously won't see this channel or this interview gain traction with non Hindi speakers.

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The absolute state of affairs in J&K . Previously the various elected state government were considered to be complicit in such acts .

There's been central govt rule vide the governor since Aug 2019 with the present day governor himself being of RSS stock yet it took the HC to come out with such directions.
 

Ankit Kumar

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Industrialisation of agriculture will happen. Either you jump the bandwagon and enjoy the benefits or you get crushed.

Now to the families of the suicide victims, just for a moment, what if the farmers were actually an employee with a fixed salary under a multi national company which leased their land? They would have got a fixed amount for lease and a salary for being an employee.

But what happened? Idiots got the government to repeal the Farm Laws and blocked land laws from taking shape.

Die you idiots, die.

There will come a time that the internal debt of India will become so high that Government will have to give up protection of Agriculture and Dairy and sign FTAs with everyone.
 

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Fault of Modi Government. Inaction of Modi led government against foreign funding and Khalistan links during Farmer Protests has led to this.

Max Arthur Macauliffe work still at display a century later.

It’s the superiority complex, same as Muslims, that is basis for exclusive demands. When they had no valid argument against farm laws and responded by trying to mow down police with tractors, can people of such mental acumen build a nation ?

Just repeat Modi, Ambani, Adani because it’s like trying to become their equal or just plain hating their achievements.
 
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