PNS Alamgir intrusion in Indian water's

The steady growth of PN in recent times made them to do this. Recent years, they had inducted many new platforms from Turkey, china & Romania.
 
The steady growth of PN in recent times made them to do this. Recent years, they had inducted many new platforms from Turkey, china & Romania.
That's true. 4 new Type 054A from China, 4 Ada Class ships from Turkey, 4 Damen Stan OPVs and Chinese missile boats.

Their Air arm getting 2nd hand Seakings from Qatar, getting ATR72 for maritime survillance and EMB aircrafts to build ASW platform.

And submarines in the pipeline.

Given the funds they have access too, a real good turn about for them.
 
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That's true. 4 new Type 054A from China, 4 Ada Class ships from Turkey, 4 Damen Stan OPVs and Chinese missile boats.

Their Air arm getting 2nd hand Seakings from Qatar, getting ATR72 for maritime survillance and EMB aircrafts to build ASW platform.

And submarines in the pipeline.

Given the funds they have access too, a real good turn about for them.
Its a huge fleets strength with respect to india, if you consider the shoreline they have to protect.
 
Its a huge fleets strength with respect to india, if you consider the shoreline they have to protect.
We need a massive fleet of submarines and anti ship missiles. Area denial needs to be our focus.
 
We need a massive fleet of submarines and anti ship missiles. Area denial needs to be our focus.
Area denials with sub & SAMs with air defense is the strategy of weak nations or technically inferior country. No surprise, no country had won any war with these strategies. I am not telling that we should not induct any sub or SAM, it should not be our silver bullet.
 
Area denials with sub & SAMs with air defense is the strategy of weak nations or technically inferior country. No surprise, no country had won any war with these strategies. I am not telling that we should not induct any sub or SAM, it should not be our silver bullet.
We are in a weaker position. We could handle the Pakistanis easily but it's clear the Pakistanis are far more desperate and a joint pak china operation we will be at a disadvantage. Plus our policy has been defensive so there's nothing wrong in having a strong area denial capability. You need money and industry to make equipment that assists you in power projection. We don't have any of them. We could have a fleet of 16 submarines for 3 billion $ rather than investing in an aircraft carrier costing us 5 billion $. Two AC's are enough for this decade
 
Pakistan Navy Ships are on regular patrol and on 24/7 vigilance. Indian navy & Indian Coast Gaurd is spreading fake news of refraining Pakistani Ship in international waters. Ships have freedom of navigation to patrol maritime areas of interest.
Indian Channels are propagating an old story by mutilating facts. India is just trying to project itself as a competent force. But reality is known to all.
 
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Pakistan Navy Ships are on regular patrol and on 24/7 vigilance. Indian navy & Indian Coast Gaurd is spreading fake news of refraining Pakistani Ship in international waters. Ships have freedom of navigation to patrol maritime areas of interest.
Indian Channels are propagating an old story by mutilating facts. India is just trying to project itself as a competent force. But reality is known to all.
The PN is being intercepted by an Indian Coast Guard asset. Should tell you enough.
 
Plus our policy has been defensive so there's nothing wrong in having a strong area denial capability.
Except the part where it isn't, the decisions taken by the civil leadership does not reflect upon the doctrine of armed forces (IN in this context). IN' doctrine is largely centred around a carrier/CBG not some SSKs unable to defend themselves against ASW aircrafts. As for PLAN, we know how much power projection capability they poses as of now, that's below optimal for a war far from home.
You need money and industry to make equipment that assists you in power projection. We don't have any of them.
We have built the industry and the road map of a bluewater fleet, as for the money, it isn't to be paid upfront all at once. IN can afford an aircraft carrier and SSNs in the same 2025-40 time period.
We could have a fleet of 16 submarines for 3 billion $ rather than investing in an aircraft carrier costing us 5 billion $.
$3B doesn't get you 16 subs, it wouldn't even get you 6 scorpene in this age. & don't even compare the capability that an aircraft carrier provides to the role of a submarine. They have different roles and need, best to keep them separate & not delude ourselves with the thinking that 16 sub (modern subs cost a lot) can somehow do the same damage as a CSG.
Two AC's are enough for this decade
And you need to start building the 3rd to get it by 2030s, the time for govt to approve IAC-2 is *now*
 
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Pakistan Navy Ships are on regular patrol and on 24/7 vigilance. Indian navy & Indian Coast Gaurd is spreading fake news of refraining Pakistani Ship in international waters. Ships have freedom of navigation to patrol maritime areas of interest.
Indian Channels are propagating an old story by mutilating facts. India is just trying to project itself as a competent force. But reality is known to all.
why dont you post the official statement from PN. If the ship was in international waters then why did they even turn back?
 
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