Pakistan Navy: News & Discussions

_Anonymous_

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Well we can't sacrifice our own defence industry for beggar state rather we should opt for some trade deal. Anyway I have a feeling that this missile will be ripped off by china.
Why should the implications be restricted to defence deals ? Aren't there other areas we can target them to penalise them viz the infrastructure push , industrial sector , finance sector , etc
 
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jetray

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This is a European missile. The GE engine for the ship is also approved in think.
European or US they are all same , they are the western block. If the sale indeed has happened then so called western pay back on pakistan actions in afghanistan is just plain BS.
 

Ankit Kumar

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Isnt pakistan under unofficial arms sales ban?
No. France might have a preference, but no ban. USA is just not handing out dollars, but if pakistan has the cash, they can still buy US equipment. With the Leonardo issue, Italy has grown very close defence ties with Pakistan. So it's expected. From Howitzer to helicopters to UAVs to missiles, Italy is supplying them everything.
 

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European or US they are all same , they are the western block. If the sale indeed has happened then so called western pay back on pakistan actions in afghanistan is just plain BS.
It's definitely not. Very bad reading of geopolitics.

We blacklisted Italians this is the direct consequence of it. Their own version of CAMM missile.We have no leverage.

Read about the difference between SCALP and Storm Shadow.
 

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It's definitely not. Very bad reading of geopolitics.

We blacklisted Italians this is the direct consequence of it. Their own version of CAMM missile.We have no leverage.

Read about the difference between SCALP and Storm Shadow.
This blacklisting defence firms is such a dangerously idiotic idea.
First it was Denel which started supplying the Pakistanis.
Now it's Italy.
While it's the bureaucrats who get away without any accountability. Clowns
 

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Ankit Kumar

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About time the PN gets some decent boats for us to kill.
The Turkish origin vessel with the European SAM will be more of a challenge. However if they lack the gas turbines, that will be a disadvantage for them.

However if we look that when they got the 6 Type 21 destroyers with HQ61 SAM and HARPOON missiles were building the Brahmaputra Class Frigates with Barak 1 and KH35. It was only after the Talwars started coming and P15 class that we regained a big advantage.

Similarly in next few years when P15B and P17A start coming, the balance will be maintained.
 
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randomradio

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The Turkish origin vessel with the European SAM will be more of a challenge. However if they lack the gas turbines, that will be a disadvantage for them.

However if we look that when they got the 6 Type 21 destroyers with HQ61 SAM and HARPOON missiles were building the Brahmaputra Class Frigates with Barak 1 and KH35. It was only after the Talwars started coming and P15 class that we regained a big advantage.

Similarly in next few years when P15B and P17A start coming, the balance will be maintained.

Our ships won't do much, our air wings will kill them.
 
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