Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

Cole_phelps

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This is exactly what Chinese wanted to do with Indian army, to humiliate them and send message to politicians. But when it came down to real fighting, PLA backed off and started negotiations. That’s the reason why no Indian politician is interested in dialogue with china, this itself gives away how much we take them seriously. All China is doing right now is pompous crying and sulking on twitter. Yeah you won battle with sticks and stones thanks to your armour and shields. Our army isn’t used to fight wars of kind found in books collecting dust across libraries.
 

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This is exactly what Chinese wanted to do with Indian army, to humiliate them and send message to politicians. But when it came down to real fighting, PLA backed off and started negotiations. That’s the reason why no Indian politician is interested in dialogue with china, this itself gives away how much we take them seriously. All China is doing right now is pompous crying and sulking on twitter. Yeah you won battle with sticks and stones thanks to your armour and shields. Our army isn’t used to fight wars of kind found in books collecting dust across libraries.

They are doing what Pakistan does. Changing history in books. And thanks to MEA who advised PMO that yes they can negotiate. This Jaishankar has become a 'panoti. '

I will not be surprized, if after 10 years Indian kids study 'Loss in Galwan' as a topic in SST. Chinese just need to bribe few in India.
 
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so that means Pakistani NSA will also not come? They want to sabotage this meeting and make it worth no value.
Implying we want the Chinese and Pakistanis in this deal. The GoI has to get out of the delusion that indio-pak/sino relations can get back to pre-2014 levels
 

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Implying we want the Chinese and Pakistanis in this deal. The GoI has to get out of the delusion that indio-pak/sino relations can get back to pre-2014 levels

Chinese are not completely wrong. It's power play. If you are powerful, either convince not to fight and come to conculsion through peace talks or, fight a war and create a new treaty when ever there is a change in government or status of a nation.

a) British India did some border agreements with the Qing dynasty regarding boundary of Tibet and Sikkim in 1890. Without representatives from Tibet.


b) In 1904 the same Britishers invaded Tibet and signed another treaty of 1904. This was done to counter Russian expansion, communism. They threw the Qing dynasty out of Tibet.

c) When britishers left , India as a democratic nation had no treaty with the chinese,. Except for Dogras and Sikhs in Aksai Chin. So new treaty was signed as panchsheel which contradicted India recognizing Tibet as Chinese territory. Because if Tibet was to be given to China it should be complete Tibet. No where India said this part of Tibet remains within India.




Neither Qing is there nor British India or Dogras. So now it's an open border all the way from Taiwan to Durand line.
 

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So PLA left that area in 1959 after killing nearly 100 IA soldiers. And Chacha Ji decided to not take that area because apparently it was too remote to maintain control.
So Chinese helped him by moving LAC nearer by occupying that area after few years.
 
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So PLA left that area in 1959 after killing nearly 100 IA soldiers. And Chacha Ji decided to not take that area because apparently it was too remote to maintain control.
So Chinese helped him by moving LAC nearer by occupying that area after few years.
Every problem of this country begins and ends with chachaji
 
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that was for vehicles, but chips used in IT like mobile, computer ..etc has seen a lot of spike. This has happened after huawei was completely blocked from getting new chips. Some say this was due to work from home but given that even after a year things have not showed any improvement, there may be other things in play.
Recently our management went to country's political and financial leadership and post discussion, however what we hear isn't pleasant at all. Market ( and I mean Banking system) has already started facing the dryness. As time passes, it's going to go public if not drastic measures taken like Demonitization, or perhaps government might be onto something?
 

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Recently our management went to country's political and financial leadership and post discussion, however what we hear isn't pleasant at all. Market ( and I mean Banking system) has already started facing the dryness. As time passes, it's going to go public if not drastic measures taken like Demonitization, or perhaps government might be onto something?
Any action which involves investment will take atleast 2 years or more. No one is selling those fabs for the time being. Semiconductors is the new oil, not having it is going to severely impact the economy.
 
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Any action which involves investment will take atleast 2 years or more. No one is selling those fabs for the time being. Semiconductors is the new oil, not having it is going to severely impact the economy.
Approx 4-5 years to pump sufficient quantity. Question is whether multiple industries will survive till then as COVID has impacted most of organizations negatively there is no denying there. Let's hope for the best.
 
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Amid India-China Stand-off, Ladakh Strike Comes As A Wake Up Call​

While strikes have been common in Kashmir for the past 30 years, the Union Territory of Ladakh today is witnessing an unprecedented strike with roads deserted, business establishments and shops closed and people inside their homes both in Leh and Kargil.

The strike call was jointly given by the Apex Body of Leh, a conglomerate of various religious and political organisations of Leh, and the Kargil Democratic Alliance, a grouping of religious and political organisations of Kargil. This is the first such strike in Ladakh’s history where both Kargil and Leh are on the same page.

The Leh Apex Body and Kargil Democratic Alliance seek full-fledged statehood for Ladakh, constitutional safeguards on the lines of the 6th schedule to safeguard demography, environment and unique culture of Ladakh. They also seek two Lok Sabha seats for the region, a Rajya Sabha seat and a filling up of 10,000 to 12,000 vacancies to overcome unemployment in the region.

According to reports, there is a complete strike in Leh with all shops closed, roads deserted and other business establishments closed. In Kargil also, in Lal Chowk and other areas of the district shops remained closed and traffic off the road. The leaders and activists of both regions are posting live visuals of the deserted roads on social media.

Jigmat Paljor, the student activist of Ladakh, says today’s strike is very significant as both Kargil and Leh are observing it together and have the same demands and aspirations. “Such a strike in Kargil and Leh for a joint cause hasn’t been seen in the Ladakh region earlier. It is all Ladakh together and the call is very successful,” Paljor told Outlook. He hoped the peaceful strike will carry a message to the Union Government and it will call the delegation of the Apex Body, KDA, representative of Ladakh to New Delhi for the dialogue.

Sajad Kargili, a leader of Kargil Democratic Alliance told reporters in Kargil, that they have only given the call for the strike and people have voluntarily supported the call. “People are peacefully supporting the strike call showing resentment towards the present arrangement,” he said. He said people are supporting the call for seeking statehood for Ladakh, representation of Ladakh in Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha. “We have every right to protest peacefully and we believe that the government must listen to us.” “We must have a federal structure in Ladakh. We must have democratic institutions in Ladakh. We have the overwhelming support of people,” he added.

After the abrogation of Article 370 and Ladakh becoming a separate Union Territory, it was assumed that the Ladakh region got a solution for all its problems. But things are moving in reverse gear in the region and the leaders of the region are saying they needed to have constitutional safeguards including the right to come up with laws for the region.

Thupstan Chhewang, president of the Apex Body of Leh has been saying that Ladakh leadership will go for a door to door campaign and mobilise people and aware them of their struggle for full statehood for Ladakh once the weather improves in the coming months.

Though the government has given some concessions to the Ladakh region in contrast to J&K, Ladakhi leadership is not relenting anything less than statehood. In September 2021, the government of the Union Territory of Ladakh issued an order defining ‘resident of the UT of Ladakh.” According to the Ladakh Resident Certificate Order 2021, any person who possesses a Permanent Resident Certificate issued by the competent authority in the districts of Leh and Kargil or belongs to a category of persons who would have been eligible to be issued Permanent Resident Certificate by the competent authority in the districts of Leh and Kargil will be eligible to receive the Resident Certificate. In contrast to Jammu and Kashmir where the government has come up with domicile law making it easy to acquire a domicile certificate of J&K for outsiders, in Ladakh the government has stuck to the old rules.