Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

RISING SUN

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Chip shortage is due to lack of orders during the covid.
Not at all. Orders are there but when few industries offer higher prices for bulk supply, those manufacturers on lower price spectrum lose their supplies.
 

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Most probably one fine day chinese troops will land in taiwan and then announce game over. There will be some usual useless statements by western block, shed some crocodile tears and after that things will become normal.

There wont be any guerilla warfare in taiwan, ppl will move on. To add to that to fight a guerilla warfare there should be external support and for an island it will be hard to come by.

Most of us are biased due to our own motives , think taiwanese hate chinese and will fight them. But truth is somewhere in between, taiwan only wants to maintain status quo to benefit from both china & western block. What most of us miss that other than political relations , taiwan is very well connected to main land china economically & culturally. Some ppl will leave taiwan to western cntries apart from that it will simply become another hong kong play out.

Depends upon the Western decision.
Americans dont care about the Taiwanese people or land .But their industry and American investment and of Course American influence.
Capturing Taiwan will severly undercut the Japanese and US influence.
Something West wont allow.
Probably another Cuban Missile Crisis like situation
It's a very weird situation, and it entirely depends on the US. If the US protects Taiwan, China won't attack Taiwan for a very long time. But if the US decides they are only going to watch, then China will most definitely invade, but will get stuck in a protracted guerilla war. At the very least, we know Taiwan is unlikely to go down without a fight since the Taiwanese military and political leadership know exactly what fate awaits them if they fall into the CCP's hands.

Xi wants to create a legacy in this third term, before he leaves office. He obviously can't challenge the Japanese over Senkaku yet, since the US's full intervention is guaranteed. China can't challenge Russia yet. So it's either Taiwan or Tawang.



With America's new chip policy, they could end up becoming self-sufficient in chip production, so they are unlikely to make any decisions based on Taiwan's semiconductor industry alone.

Considering the nature of our Prime Minister.
Any attempt for Tawang will spiral out of Control where Xi cant manage .
Taiwan might be the option.
 

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Most probably one fine day chinese troops will land in taiwan and then announce game over. There will be some usual useless statements by western block, shed some crocodile tears and after that things will become normal.

There wont be any guerilla warfare in taiwan, ppl will move on. To add to that to fight a guerilla warfare there should be external support and for an island it will be hard to come by.

Most of us are biased due to our own motives , think taiwanese hate chinese and will fight them. But truth is somewhere in between, taiwan only wants to maintain status quo to benefit from both china & western block. What most of us miss that other than political relations , taiwan is very well connected to main land china economically & culturally. Some ppl will leave taiwan to western cntries apart from that it will simply become another hong kong play out.

Yeah, that's another line of thinking, the Taiwanese won't put up a fight at all. But that's unlikely to happen simply because Taiwan is an island and invading an island is one of the hardest of all military operations, something the Taiwanese are keen on taking advantage of. At the very least, the Taiwanese are going to fight until Chinese troops actually manage to land in enough numbers to pose a threat. And the possibility of Taiwan successfully mounting a defence is extremely high. It's really this phase of the war that Taiwan is betting everything on.



It's not a good idea for the US to sit out of the conflict because next will be Japan, and then the US will be forced to fight anyway. So it's more advantageous for the US to fight China while Taiwan still exists.
 
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Chip shortage is due to lack of orders during the covid.
that was for vehicles, but chips used in IT like mobile, computer ..etc has seen a lot of spike. This has happened after huawei was completely blocked from getting new chips. Some say this was due to work from home but given that even after a year things have not showed any improvement, there may be other things in play.
 
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one of the rumors going around is that chip shortage is due to chinese hoarding the chips. Recently even US requested info from TSM on chip supply info to vendors.

Chip shortage is due to lack of orders during the covid.

Probably 'cause China did not suffer significant economic damage so their orders remained unchanged, or perhaps even increased.
 

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Yeah, that's another line of thinking, the Taiwanese won't put up a fight at all. But that's unlikely to happen simply because Taiwan is an island and invading an island is one of the hardest of all military operations, something the Taiwanese are keen on taking advantage of. At the very least, the Taiwanese are going to fight until Chinese troops actually manage to land in enough numbers to pose a threat. And the possibility of Taiwan successfully mounting a defence is extremely high. It's really this phase of the war that Taiwan is betting everything on
Taiwan will fall just like afghanistan did, I dont think ppl are stupid enuf to shed blood and then reconcile. All those rhetoric & bravado statements are normal. Given that china has a overwhelming force taiwanese know what the end result will be. It will be just peaceful handover.

As I said we are biased due to our own motives we should stop this one side narrow thinking where outcome is in always biased towards our interests. Afghanistan is a good example.
Americans dont care about the Taiwanese people or land .But their industry and American investment and of Course American influence.
US has already started building chip fabrication plants by TSM and so does japan. More or less factories will be taken over by china but the employees might be given way out just like afghanistan.
 

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If Taiwan can be sacrificed then add Japan and South Korea into list of next to be bullied and conquered by China. Even inept, woke and pusillanimous govt of Biden won't ever allow that.
if you cant beat them , join them. This whole powerplay is where china & US will form a detente relationship where they will divide the world into their influence zones.
 

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I suggest we take over switzerland, cows there will help us to take back POK. :ROFLMAO:

ab baniye ko switzerland hi to nazar ayega. ladna to ata nahi, economy ka bahana banate hai apni kamzori chupane ke liye. Jo Bhagwat Gita mein likha hai uska ulta hi karenge. Bachpan se adat hai
That is something we can initiate .
Starts from small strikes inside terror camp in PoK.If Pak is foolish enough to spiralit out.
Then we have a chance for it

I repeatedly say that you do not have time. Either it happens in this government or it will never happen.

Once Modi steps down Pakistan and China will hunt Indians!
 

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ab baniye ko switzerland hi to nazar ayega. ladna to ata nahi, economy ka bahana banate hai apni kamzori chupane ke liye. Jo Bhagwat Gita mein likha hai uska ulta hi karenge. Bachpan se adat hai


I repeatedly say that you do not have time. Either it happens in this government or it will never happen.

Once Modi steps down Pakistan and China will hunt Indians!

Sorry.?
India is not revolving around person or Prime Minister.
And noone going to attack a nuclear nation like India.

Donot bring emotions in this kind of subject.
That is first thing you need to understand.
Kargil was initiated by Pakistan and look what happened to them.
Forget about the fact they royally failed there .It seriously messed up their voice in the world
You think War is an easy subject .
Its a last resort only .
But for that they have to give a chance to us .
Pakistan is not our threat ,China is the real threat .
Pakistan is failed already .PoK can take without much effort in future if thinks goes as of now .
Wasting our energy for that failed nation is stupidity.
ab baniye ko switzerland hi to nazar ayega. ladna to ata nahi, economy ka bahana banate hai apni kamzori chupane ke liye. Jo Bhagwat Gita mein likha hai uska ulta hi karenge. Bachpan se adat hai


I repeatedly say that you do not have time. Either it happens in this government or it will never happen.

Once Modi steps down Pakistan and China will hunt Indians!

Sorry.?
India is not revolving around person or Prime Minister.
And noone going to attack a nuclear nation like India.

Donot bring emotions in this kind of subject.
That is first thing you need to understand.
Kargil was initiated by Pakistan and look what happened to them.
Forget about the fact they royally failed there .It seriously messed up their voice in the world
You think War is an easy subject .
Its a last resort only .
But for that they have to give a chance to us .
Pakistan is not our threat ,China is the real threat .
Pakistan is failed already .PoK can take without much effort in future if thinks goes as of now .
Wasting our energy for that failed nation is stupidity.
 

SrNair

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This is looking really bad. Either beat the shit out of the Chinese or at least release the videos of Chinese soldiers in captive. Enough of this downplay the threat bullshit.

Last year our soldiers released a video of beating the shit out of a Chinese .
What was the Chinese response?

Remember all these are part of pressure tactics and psy warfare .
If our force have video they can release it ,if not will get the chance in future .
Otherwise donot become a pawn of their game..This will sure happened in both sides .

Read this thread by a IA veteran . I got the feeling like we are in a doomed situation and the Modi govt is just buying the time to postpone the inevitable.

If the facts quoted in above tweets are true. Does our infantry capable of countering PLA's armour in mountain warfare ?

Only to become a sitting duck of portable ATGM
 

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This is looking really bad. Either beat the shit out of the Chinese or at least release the videos of Chinese soldiers in captive. Enough of this downplay the threat bullshit.

Chinese are trying to demoralise IA & babus before they initiate an action and I believe there is going to be a short conflict. First QUAD and now AUKUS is really a threat to China's influence and curtailing their ambitions. China has to act fast and take out couple of potential threats in region before an alliance can form greatly reducing China's chances of success later.

The coming 30 days we might see use of arms. There's no other way to claim the throne without blood, I guess Chinese who were acting like businessmen have understood this.
 

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India is not revolving around person or Prime Minister.
And noone going to attack a nuclear nation like India.

India revolves around PM when government changes both military and foreign policy changes.
Donot bring emotions in this kind of subject.
That is first thing you need to understand.
Kargil was initiated by Pakistan and look what happened to them.

I am not being emotional. I am talking about after 5 years. During Kargil also no one dared to cross LC. And after 5 years no one will once again dare to cross LC openly. Because the government will not be as strong as it is now.
Pakistan is not our threat ,China is the real threat .

Then take POK. Without territorial gains you are not a military power mind that.
 

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Read this thread by a IA veteran . I got the feeling like we are in a doomed situation and the Modi govt is just buying the time to postpone the inevitable.

If the facts quoted in above tweets are true. Does our infantry capable of countering PLA's armour in mountain warfare ?

We have plenty of tanks in our positions too. The last I heard, Chushul and Depsang have an armoured brigade each, that's between 90-120 tanks. And there are other infantry brigade formations as well, with 12 tanks in each brigade. Closer to home, our air support will be better too.
 

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