Kargil Conflict : Discussions

Tatvamasi

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Pakistanis who make such statements dont get just how insulting it is to their fallen troops, these cheap words of false bravado coming from uncouth mouths of ignorant idiots. People like you have no idea what situation your troops were in towards end of June.

Around 2 weeks after the Muntho Dhalo air strike, Indian soldiers began to stumble upon emaciated bodies of Pakistani troops who had recently been killed in battles. Doctors found sugar blocks, solid snow & even mud from their stomachs upon autopsy. It was obvious they hadnt had anything to eat or in some cases even drink for several days, if not weeks. They couldnt melt snow for fear of being detected. They had also received no reinforcements. We knew radio intercepts that the Muntho Dhalo strike had crippled Pakistani logistics, but didnt realize until then the sheer severity of consequences on PA units on the occupied post. They were severely weakened, and while they tried to hold on, it was obvious they couldnt combat or even retreat. In fact some units were so severely weakened by hunger that they couldn't carry out the orders to retreat. They would die where they stood, either through hunger, or through our bullets and shells.

We offered PA to recognize them as PA troops, and therefore be allowed a respectable retreat. PA general staff refused to acknowledge. As such they were terrorists in Indian territory, legitimate targets to be slaughtered either while retreating, or where they stood. There was no mercy shown by our gunners.

Go and tell your stories of fake bravado to these men in their graves. Tell them how they were on the verge of victory, how abandoned by their HQ, out of ammunition, out of men, out of food, out of water, they were going to take on well rested, well equipped, well fed troops supported by air and artillery. Some of their last transmission were requests for food and water. Some kept begging for reinforcements till they were killed, the voices getting more frantic as they saw Indian troops close in, the indian artillery ranging in. Some accepted their fates, calling up HQs one last time with messages to their loved ones and telling their officers that they were too weak from hunger and/or surrounded by Indian troops to attempt a retreat.
 

AbRaj

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we don't want ghawza e hind right now. We are worried about indian people. Few years ago,there was not much hate against pakistanis but now in this government,there is a trend of tweets and things like begging bowl, partition of Pakistan and our Kashmir etc. Problem is it's unexpected from indian people who call themselves liberals and democratic people.
Our problem is quiet clear. We are worried about indian mindset. We are worried about situation of loc and water problem. Water originates from indian kashmir. Oceans are drying up. Water level is going on. We are an agricultural country. We need proper water supply from India even in future and for this,we are forced to start a war. We don't want ghazwa e hind. Unjustified killings is not allowed. Jehad is allowed only if someone kills your Muslim brothers without any reason. Obviously worldwide terrorism has changed the definition of jehad but we can't relate terrorism with jehad. Both are totally different concepts. Isis has done lots of damage. Perception has changed but for Islamic countries,rules will remain same. Our ancestors have won many wars. Cause of war in the past are mostly unjustified killings of Muslims. Muslims are everywhere.they are a big community. They must protect their identity and get rid of groups like isis. We must learn our religion properly.
In Kashmir,we see many casualties on daily basis. Obviously Muslims are also dying which is unacceptable according to Muslims. Today Muslims are weak but we don't want to wake up because it will bring destruction. We want truce. If India guarantee us no killing,we will guarantee no hostility. We don't want India. We don't have any expansion plan but India should worry about China because they have plans.
Our mere existence is unjustified as per Quran. There is clear cut instruction in It regarding how to tackle Jews and kuffers. ie persuasion,intimidation or elimination , not necessarily in the sequence. I’m sure you have heard the word Butzkashi.
Do some search regarding the origin of the word (Hint: Buddha is pronounced as budz by turko mongols)
IMO We can’t have any truce until and unless you renounce the source of hate ie the Quran. Rest all peace talks are sham without any substance. Quran is the thing that motivates and orders Muslims to do genocide of Jews and Dharmics. On the contrary we don’t have any specific orders regarding Muslims, except that defend our way of life, which is perfectly justified as per us.
We will do whatever is necessary to fend ourselves. If Arjun can use Brahmastra (equivalent to modern day WMDs) to protect his people, so can we.

You can call Hindus as Hindu kutta, Hindu kayar baniya on your mainstream media dramas and news channels, we don’t care. But as soon as you cross the line, you’re a fair game to us.
You think we don’t know you, but that’s plane wrong. We know you better then you yourself, because before the turko mongols set up the shop at Heera Mandi and forced to open your mother’s and sisters legs, you were one of us. We know you are weak and have tendency to capitulate on slightest of pressure, rather than fighting for the honour, like we do. You are just scared to accept your past, and have developed the defence mechanism like Repression and Displacement.
 

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Media should be totally banned from sites of operation. After the operation is over they can go and scavenge for news. Once a perimeter is established any one crossing it without permission should be shot on sight.

Selective media should be allowed to thwart adversary media ops.

Because of the stupidity of not crossing the LC. The same they are going to repeat with China along LAC. There will strict orders of not crossing the LAC and this will lead to high causality on Indian side. Even a country like sudan will do better than Indians if they have got what India has got to protect their territory.

More over I would also like to bash the whiskey generals of Indian armed forces for not keeping up to the mark, and showing lethargy. You have over three million thousand men in uniform for what ? How is this possible that everytime you have no information on enemy intrusion.
 

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THREAD!!

Man this thread is such a work of art, I've no words to describe it. It's pure gold. Sorry, its pure platinum. You absolutely have to have to read the whole thread on Twitter. It's timeless. Ok. Exaggeration. It's the same stuff from 1947.

@Nilgiri ; @Milspec ; @Falcon ; @lcafanboy ; @RISING SUN ; @STEPHEN COHEN ; & especially you maamu @safriz et al
 

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THREAD!!

Man this thread is such a work of art, I've no words to describe it. It's pure gold. Sorry, its pure platinum. You absolutely have to have to read the whole thread on Twitter. It's timeless. Ok. Exaggeration. It's the same stuff from 1947.

@Nilgiri ; @Milspec ; @Falcon ; @lcafanboy ; @RISING SUN ; @STEPHEN COHEN ; & especially you maamu @safriz et al
No doubt Pakistanis are always High on some of the best weeds grown on earth... They are the most disillusioned Lot in the world, partly due to successive cousin marriage which induces genetic defects especially BRAIN.....😊

Fact is even with both the hands tied by the ABV government not to cross the border or LoC Indian army and Air Force decimated Pakistani army.
And regarding financial aspects Pakistan is was and will remain a BEGGAR STATE till whatever time it exists and will do a hit job for right pay for their pay masters. This is known to all the players whether America Saudi Arabia or China and they tend to use Pakistan and throw it like a Toilet Paper when not required after wiping off their shit....
 

Milspec

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THREAD!!

Man this thread is such a work of art, I've no words to describe it. It's pure gold. Sorry, its pure platinum. You absolutely have to have to read the whole thread on Twitter. It's timeless. Ok. Exaggeration. It's the same stuff from 1947.

@Nilgiri ; @Milspec ; @Falcon ; @lcafanboy ; @RISING SUN ; @STEPHEN COHEN ; & especially you maamu @safriz et al
CHARAS
 

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I've yet to come across a more self delusional nation & pathological liars like the Paxtanis. A US official put it perfectly - Paxtanis are such pathological liars they don't even know they're lying anymore. They seem totally convinced of the illusion of their own making. Imagine spinning the Kargil war as a campaign waged just to secure one peak or the other sundries he's offered as justification.

There are times I think we should just nuke them for being first grade xhutiyas. Apart from everything else we'd be doing the world & the Paxtanis themselves a big favour.
 

Nilgiri

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I've yet to come across a more self delusional nation & pathological liars like the Paxtanis. A US official put it perfectly - Paxtanis are such pathological liars they don't even know they're lying anymore. They seem totally convinced of the illusion of their own making. Imagine spinning the Kargil war as a campaign waged just to secure one peak or the other sundries he's offered as justification.

There are times I think we should just nuke them for being first grade xhutiyas. Apart from everything else we'd be doing the world & the Paxtanis themselves a big favour.

Like I've said before....the root problem is a fake name (and all that this does). All the other stans have an old tribe/ethnic name....so its totally fine just calling an uzbekistani as uzbek.

But its waissis to do same for Pakistani....coz there is some oxymoron pejorative "we're laughing at you, not with you" subconcious stuff going on with being called "pure"....and having reality (past, present and future) as it is in total contrast.

i.e You have to make it "work" but history is not on your side....so the mental faculty has to be altered like nowhere else.

It takes lot of mental copium....it is unique to world.

71 was just a total proof of it and in the manner it hit them....it hits them in way no one else can really even imagine.

So when you expend all copium on something so basic like that, world of newer mental cope/justification (to double down on the original lie that must be made truth) is opened and is 2nd nature.

Folks on ground that dont have this time to invest in these big thinking provide mobs and cannon fodder ....and/or just suffer the effects.

It's really messed up...if the big thinkers didn't do enough thinking at the start.