Jammu & Kashmir live updates: GOI remove all provisions of Article 370

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Sanjay Dixit ಸಂಜಯ್ ದೀಕ್ಷಿತ್ संजय दीक्षित (@Sanjay_Dixit) Tweeted:
Quite amazing that just 6 districts, yes 6 - Srinagar, Baramulla, Budgam, Pulwama, Anantnag, and Shopian - held a country of 1.3 billion to ransom on Art 370 with help from a few hundred Islamists and secular-liberal-Marxist cabal. That it lasted 70 years is pure incompetence ( )
 

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Those were the time every pakistani was getting orgasm merely by reading global times headline
Pravin Sawhney worships the chicoms instead of God.. The old fool even made a video wearing pants from a Jitendra film, after India' ASAT test, where he morphed into an expert in rocket science. He belittled India's ASAT test saying that it only hit a target at an altitude of 283 km, and went on say that India does not have the capability to hit targets at an altitude of around 700 km, where most surveillance satellites lie. The Buffoon forgot that Agni V has an apogee of around 800 km.. when on a normal trajectory..
 

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He worships the chicoms instead of God.. The old fool eve made a video wearing pants from a Jitendra film, after India' ASAT test, where he morphed into an expert in rocket science. He belittled India's ASAT test saying that it only hit a target at an altitude of 283 km, and went on say that India does not have the capability to hit targets at an altitude of around 700 km, where most surveillance satellites lie. The Buffoon forgot that Agni V has an apogee of around 800 km.. when on a normal trajectory..
Whom are you referring to?
 

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I actually admire the way he makes his prognosis with blithe confidence. If you look at his Twitter handle, he's got into quite a few scraps with senior ex services personnel and takes great pridebin not only denigrating them and their views but also in highlighting those scraps and claiming that in spite of which a lot of these ex services personnel keep following his handle, read it and quote from it extensively to build their arguments.

Being an ex IA officer himself I'm guessing he didn't part ways with them on good terms. Either that or he's following a time tested tradition of some smart journalists to keep stirring the pot, be in the news , stay relevant and encash on it.

I don't know what personal relations he had with certain officers. However, he is much ridiculed by a good section of the ex armed forces community, like Karnard is laughed at. I don't take his opinions, current sequence of events have shown the game plan is much larger, than the ususal Indo-Pak tu tu main main...
 

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For last 20+ years Jamnagar area has been India’s strategic nightmare due to huge investment and proximity to Pakistan. Overnight that area has turned into a no fly zone for Pak Air Force.
Bang on target. Baniya buddhi at work. Killed 3 birds in one stone . Dickraa, pls note and stop fretting. @vsdoc
 
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Pravin Sawhney (@PravinSawhney) Tweeted:
Gen Rawat confirmation that Pak troops movement on LC normal precautionary activity & dip in proxy war are clear indications that grounds being prepared by both sides for bilateral talks. Will happen before Xi comes to India in Oct 😊 ( )

Pravin Sawhney (@PravinSawhney) Tweeted:
I see grave fallacy in @subyroy thinking. He & most like him cannot understand role tech & mil power plays in China foreign policy. Advise to read & reflect more is all I can say 😊 Dr Subroto Roy on Twitter ( )


Pravin Sawhney (@PravinSawhney) Tweeted:
@sanfunhindu @AmitShah India’s claim political statement since not backed by military capabilities. China’s statements are dire indicators of the unknown. Both internal & external aspects of Kashmir expected to hot up in coming days. Script will not go as planned as we ignore/underplay China factor ( )

Pravin Sawhney (@PravinSawhney) Tweeted:
As I said, Chinese channels conveying China’s strong opposition to K development. Beijing concern is growing tensions between India & Pak. Beijing is mediator with implications for us. This mediation different from US as we have dispute with China & Beijing-Pak are aligned Global Times on Twitter ( )


Pravin Sawhney (@PravinSawhney) Tweeted:
India got polite dressing down. Agreed to mend ties with Pak. Expect meaningful talks to begin before Xi visit to India in Oct. China also said it does not accept changed status of K & L. So, 2 observations: China now mediator in India-Pak talks. And, talks to be on resolution Global Times on Twitter ( )

Ghazala Wahab (@ghazalawahab) Tweeted:
Optimists may hope it is early days yet, but it will increasingly become clear tht #Kashmir will expend most of r national efforts & resources -- military, economic & diplomatic. We have created a quicksand for ourselves which will consume more of us than we have bargained for Pravin Sawhney on Twitter (Ghazala Wahab on Twitter)


Pravin Sawhney (@PravinSawhney) Tweeted:
As I said, focus of talks was Kashmir developments. Jaishankar said India ready to start talks with Pakistan.😊 Suhasini Haidar on Twitter (Pravin Sawhney on Twitter)
lol, this is really funny. Probably seems Pravin sawhney forgot about doklam. Given uighur and hong kong protests growing in strength day to day, chinese would not open another front. They simply want to bring down India by equating it with pakistan. Current govt is only following the due process of formality in keeping china engaged. At no point of time it should be construed that we have agreed or listening to china.
 

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Pravin Sawhney (@PravinSawhney) Tweeted:
Gen Rawat confirmation that Pak troops movement on LC normal precautionary activity & dip in proxy war are clear indications that grounds being prepared by both sides for bilateral talks. Will happen before Xi comes to India in Oct 😊 ( )

Pravin Sawhney (@PravinSawhney) Tweeted:
I see grave fallacy in @subyroy thinking. He & most like him cannot understand role tech & mil power plays in China foreign policy. Advise to read & reflect more is all I can say 😊 Dr Subroto Roy on Twitter ( )


Pravin Sawhney (@PravinSawhney) Tweeted:
@sanfunhindu @AmitShah India’s claim political statement since not backed by military capabilities. China’s statements are dire indicators of the unknown. Both internal & external aspects of Kashmir expected to hot up in coming days. Script will not go as planned as we ignore/underplay China factor ( )

Pravin Sawhney (@PravinSawhney) Tweeted:
As I said, Chinese channels conveying China’s strong opposition to K development. Beijing concern is growing tensions between India & Pak. Beijing is mediator with implications for us. This mediation different from US as we have dispute with China & Beijing-Pak are aligned Global Times on Twitter ( )


Pravin Sawhney (@PravinSawhney) Tweeted:
India got polite dressing down. Agreed to mend ties with Pak. Expect meaningful talks to begin before Xi visit to India in Oct. China also said it does not accept changed status of K & L. So, 2 observations: China now mediator in India-Pak talks. And, talks to be on resolution Global Times on Twitter ( )

Ghazala Wahab (@ghazalawahab) Tweeted:
Optimists may hope it is early days yet, but it will increasingly become clear tht #Kashmir will expend most of r national efforts & resources -- military, economic & diplomatic. We have created a quicksand for ourselves which will consume more of us than we have bargained for Pravin Sawhney on Twitter (Ghazala Wahab on Twitter)


Pravin Sawhney (@PravinSawhney) Tweeted:
As I said, focus of talks was Kashmir developments. Jaishankar said India ready to start talks with Pakistan.😊 Suhasini Haidar on Twitter (Pravin Sawhney on Twitter)

Pravin Sawhney's never heard of words like "propaganda" and "lip service" obviously.
 

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lol, this is really funny. Probably seems Pravin sawhney forgot about doklam. Given uighur and hong kong protests growing in strength day to day, chinese would not open another front. They simply want to bring down India by equating it with pakistan. Current govt is only following the due process of formality in keeping china engaged. At no point of time it should be construed that we have agreed or listening to china.
Sawhney twists facts to suit him.. We have already established a fiat accompli, and any talks with Pakistan will have to recognise this fact of JK being a UT. India said it regrets pakistan downgrading diplomatic ties... Modi is ready for talks, it is Pakistan which is shying away...
 

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Pakistanis are excellent con artists , only other thing they excel in is brainwashing innocents under the name of religion and fighting wars which their coward army cant
 

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Republic TV claims Shah Faisal detained in Delhi and sent back to Kashmir, was trying to flee India... So, what do you make of that... ex-IAS Kashmiri, would be a handy tool to malign India... or is he a RAW plant as some people claim..
 

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From AFSPA to street protests, Modi govt needs new thinking in J&K with Article 370 gone

Contain violence
The immediate priority, of course, is to ensure that violence — both by the protesters and by the security forces — is contained and limited. It is naive to expect that a move as politically salient as the undoing of Article 370 and the demotion of the state into two Union Territories will not attract violent political protests. When the media blackout is lifted, we are bound to see more public agitation: from street protests to stone-pelting to worse. With no political leadership in Kashmir willing to side with New Delhi at this point in time, the risk of violence in the immediate term is severe, and will erupt periodically over the next few years.

What should be the security response? We should seek to stabilise the political situation in the Valley in the short term, which means that the immediate security response must be marginal, not maximal. This means New Delhi must lift the communications blockade soon, and allow public protests and demonstrations to resume. The security response must be calibrated to ensure that protesters do not escalate violence, and that the protests do not spread. The Jammu and Kashmir police force must quickly resume being the security bulwark that it has long been. The damage done to the police force’s morale and its public standing must be reversed.

In my view, the underlying political problem with respect to Kashmir is the bitter affective divide between the Kashmiris and the rest of India. Realist statesmanship — which even Kautilya would recommend — indicates that bridging this affective divide ought to be the Modi government’s fundamental political goal. You can’t apply psychological salve to a population if people only see armed security personnel around them.

Five steps, at the earliest
So, first and foremost, New Delhi must embrace a new thinking, which increases security but reduces the visibility of security personnel. This must be done as early as possible — the longer you wait, the longer you will have to wait. It involves taking a certain amount of risk, but it is necessary if New Delhi’s promises of a better future for the Kashmiri people are to become credible in their eyes.

Second, the Armed Forces Special Powers Act (AFSPA) is another issue where there is an opportunity to make an immediate impact on the Kashmiri mind. So far, the debate has been a binary – between the Kashmiri people who want it to be lifted and the army that correctly argues it cannot operate without the statute. It is opportune to now adopt a surgical and “smart” AFSPA, wherein its provisions can be limited in time and space. New Delhi has fine political minds that can accommodate both Kashmiri demands and the Army’s necessities. There would be nothing like a change in the AFSPA to signal New Delhi’s bona fides, and invite Kashmiri political leaders to reciprocate.

Third, New Delhi should send a large number of administrators to both the new Union Territories. A few hundred civil servants, especially at middle levels, should be assigned to the two UTs on a special three-year deputation. The importance of improving basic governance — education, health, agriculture, trade and industry — often gets lost in the passionate political discourse on counter-insurgency. The erstwhile Jammu and Kashmir administration suffered from an acute capacity deficit arising from the conflict of decades. New Delhi announced development plans worth thousands of crores over the years, but there are not enough capable officials who can even disburse funds properly. As Union Territories, both Jammu & Kashmir and Ladakh will have access to a wider pool of administrators.

Fourth, the youth in Kashmir and Jammu must be offered the right kind of opportunities of employment, growth and social status. Instead of another big, top-down sarkari plan — which have delivered middling results — the successful bottom-up plans to impart skills, improve employability, and boost entrepreneurship launched during Syed Ata Hasnain’s tenure at the Chinar Corps must be revived and scaled up. Plans for economic development are less about funds and more about building individual responsibility, showcasing role models and diminishing mistrust.

Finally, while panchayati and municipal governments are an important element of rebuilding Kashmiri politics, it is critical that the restrictions on legitimate political parties be lifted immediately. Whether you like them or not, they are part of the solution. In the coming months, they will take strident positions in response to the Modi government’s actions. This is understandable. However, there is no finality in politics. The BJP should realise that politics is in India’s national interest, and the ferment in the immediate term could create greater political space in the years to come.
 
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i have a question was faisalwa trying to do a bose .topping civil service, fleeing from india to gain support from the friendly country and formation of kashmiri national army.
who knows what was in his mind
 

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Here’s something the ISPR won’t tell you. 5 - 7 Pak Army soldiers are being lost / week on the Western ‘front’.
10 - 12 PA troops are KIA / week due to engagements in the Eastern theatre / LoC.
‘Happy’ #IndependenceDay? Yeah, right.


Same journo who was spreading fake news about JKP personnel killing CRPF personnel
Yeah, and all the PA fanboys are going berserk thinking of reasons why this is fake and propoganda etc etc
 

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From AFSPA to street protests, Modi govt needs new thinking in J&K with Article 370 gone

Contain violence
The immediate priority, of course, is to ensure that violence — both by the protesters and by the security forces — is contained and limited. It is naive to expect that a move as politically salient as the undoing of Article 370 and the demotion of the state into two Union Territories will not attract violent political protests. When the media blackout is lifted, we are bound to see more public agitation: from street protests to stone-pelting to worse. With no political leadership in Kashmir willing to side with New Delhi at this point in time, the risk of violence in the immediate term is severe, and will erupt periodically over the next few years.

What should be the security response? We should seek to stabilise the political situation in the Valley in the short term, which means that the immediate security response must be marginal, not maximal. This means New Delhi must lift the communications blockade soon, and allow public protests and demonstrations to resume. The security response must be calibrated to ensure that protesters do not escalate violence, and that the protests do not spread. The Jammu and Kashmir police force must quickly resume being the security bulwark that it has long been. The damage done to the police force’s morale and its public standing must be reversed.

In my view, the underlying political problem with respect to Kashmir is the bitter affective divide between the Kashmiris and the rest of India. Realist statesmanship — which even Kautilya would recommend — indicates that bridging this affective divide ought to be the Modi government’s fundamental political goal. You can’t apply psychological salve to a population if people only see armed security personnel around them.

Five steps, at the earliest
So, first and foremost, New Delhi must embrace a new thinking, which increases security but reduces the visibility of security personnel. This must be done as early as possible — the longer you wait, the longer you will have to wait. It involves taking a certain amount of risk, but it is necessary if New Delhi’s promises of a better future for the Kashmiri people are to become credible in their eyes.

Second, the Armed Forces Special Powers Act (AFSPA) is another issue where there is an opportunity to make an immediate impact on the Kashmiri mind. So far, the debate has been a binary – between the Kashmiri people who want it to be lifted and the army that correctly argues it cannot operate without the statute. It is opportune to now adopt a surgical and “smart” AFSPA, wherein its provisions can be limited in time and space. New Delhi has fine political minds that can accommodate both Kashmiri demands and the Army’s necessities. There would be nothing like a change in the AFSPA to signal New Delhi’s bona fides, and invite Kashmiri political leaders to reciprocate.

Third, New Delhi should send a large number of administrators to both the new Union Territories. A few hundred civil servants, especially at middle levels, should be assigned to the two UTs on a special three-year deputation. The importance of improving basic governance — education, health, agriculture, trade and industry — often gets lost in the passionate political discourse on counter-insurgency. The erstwhile Jammu and Kashmir administration suffered from an acute capacity deficit arising from the conflict of decades. New Delhi announced development plans worth thousands of crores over the years, but there are not enough capable officials who can even disburse funds properly. As Union Territories, both Jammu & Kashmir and Ladakh will have access to a wider pool of administrators.

Fourth, the youth in Kashmir and Jammu must be offered the right kind of opportunities of employment, growth and social status. Instead of another big, top-down sarkari plan — which have delivered middling results — the successful bottom-up plans to impart skills, improve employability, and boost entrepreneurship launched during Syed Ata Hasnain’s tenure at the Chinar Corps must be revived and scaled up. Plans for economic development are less about funds and more about building individual responsibility, showcasing role models and diminishing mistrust.

Finally, while panchayati and municipal governments are an important element of rebuilding Kashmiri politics, it is critical that the restrictions on legitimate political parties be lifted immediately. Whether you like them or not, they are part of the solution. In the coming months, they will take strident positions in response to the Modi government’s actions. This is understandable. However, there is no finality in politics. The BJP should realise that politics is in India’s national interest, and the ferment in the immediate term could create greater political space in the years to come.
How do you show articles in this format. When try to post only the link is copied.
 

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i have a question was faisalwa trying to do a bose .topping civil service, fleeing from india to gain support from the friendly country and formation of kashmiri national army.
who knows what was in his mind
He was en route to Turkey, and guess which country has come out strongly in favor of Pakistan. At max would have defected to Pakistan.
 
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