Islamic Republic of Pakistan : News, Discussions & Updates

lcafanboy

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This is EPIC....😂😂🤣🤣

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Pakistan & it's aspirations for great power status. Ghar mein nahin hain daane,amma chali bhunaane.
 

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Good, Pakistan must be made as much of a hermit state as possible....to make sure it atrophies as far as possible (the savings rate and hidden inflation is already giving results on it), so our power discrepancy with it continues to grow at same rate or better this century.

When it is time, we need to have the widest options possible after all in dealing with it for good. But 2020 decade is just continued progress on it (FATF is just small portion of it)....final conclusions will be lot later.

There is also good intel gathering going on in frequented online hangouts of west-settled Pakistanis (the mouthy hypocrite talibunny type) that keep blabbing their mouths (in whichever fora or twitter etc) on wanting to do/see terrorist attacks in whichever other country....when they aren't busy being overt telford/rochdale creeps or extremist-nutjobs in whatever other ways. Spreading their own words to wider audience is now happening quite organically to further entrench perception of these people.

They seem to ignorantly expect perpetual anonymity in this day and age....and thus they strangely and ironically put that trust in the US-Israel-Western cabal in such things, because their emotional overload and angst cannot be helped. They will learn some nasty lessons downstream. I have to remember to keep a good stock of popcorn for it.
 

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Good, Pakistan must be made as much of a hermit state as possible....to make sure it atrophies as far as possible (the savings rate and hidden inflation is already giving results on it), so our power discrepancy with it continues to grow at same rate or better this century.

When it is time, we need to have the widest options possible after all in dealing with it for good. But 2020 decade is just continued progress on it (FATF is just small portion of it)....final conclusions will be lot later.

There is also good intel gathering going on in frequented online hangouts of west-settled Pakistanis (the mouthy hypocrite talibunny type) that keep blabbing their mouths (in whichever fora or twitter etc) on wanting to do/see terrorist attacks in whichever other country....when they aren't busy being overt telford/rochdale creeps or extremist-nutjobs in whatever other ways. Spreading their own words to wider audience is now happening quite organically to further entrench perception of these people.

They seem to ignorantly expect perpetual anonymity in this day and age....and thus they strangely and ironically put that trust in the US-Israel-Western cabal in such things, because their emotional overload and angst cannot be helped. They will learn some nasty lessons downstream. I have to remember to keep a good stock of popcorn for it.
A few quick pointers in no particular order :

* Pakistani Establishment seem to be besides themselves with joy at the growing footprint of Taliban. While in the short term it may offer Pakistan strategic depth , with the Americans out it's going to be business as usual as it was when the Taliban first took over Afghanistan by the neighbouring countries , none of whom are either in favour of Taliban or Pakistan's meddling there .

In the event of another Taliban takeover of the country aided in no small measure by serving & former elements of the ISI / PA combination like last time , the NA will retreat to it's former strongholds with the rest of Afghanistan's neighbours offering them support.

* Pakistan fails to see the exististential dilemma the Taliban poses to it's existence. Pakistan today is no longer what it used to be 2 decades ago either financially or in terms of it's internal stability. Further continuation of FATF restrictions along with other issues have put their economy on a tight leash .

With existing political parties deeply compromised or out of the country courtesy the PA hounding them out , the only opposition left is the loony RW - fellow travellers of the Taliban to whom the bulk of the masses would turn to willingly or otherwise. In any case the percentage of radicalised Pakistanis are only increasing by the day. In which case the RW in Pakistan would grow substantially as the principle opposition to the PA at the cost of the moderate political parties.

*As usual the PA in it's zeal to undermine India via strategic depth in Afghanistan won't see the writing on the wall till it's too late in the day . After cornering all the benefits by milking the state dry , with the principle of diminished returns setting in if they think they're back in the 90's with the west opening up it's purses every time the Pakistani Establishment approaches them for handouts crying wolf that the only alternative to them are the Mullahs , they're sadly mistaken. The world hasn't forgotten 9/11 & it's various subsequent iterations - most of which had Pakistani fingerprints on it .

*This is where the real danger for India lies . For while PA controlled the narrative earlier with their legs on the brakes & accelerator , given a weakened economy they're that much more vulnerable in spite of them believing otherwise .

* The temptations therefore to contain a restive population hit hard by a failing economy would be to increase repression or open up a front in the east by cranking up terrorism in Kashmir & rest of India & use the N blackmail card when confronted with retaliation while simultaneously petitioning the west to come up with a face saver apart from aid or both the above alternatives.

*While the response by the west to this brinkmanship can't be predicted , the Pakistani deep state will certainly have their sympathizers there who'd attempt to bail them out thus restraining us from full retaliation which in turn would increase pressure on our ruling party .

*Then there's the China card to be factored in by all parties involved here - Afghanistan, Pakistan, India , China itself & the West.

Considering the above factors while Pakistan is sinking deeper into a hole , the signs for us are ominous particularly if we consider what happened on the LAC last summer.

One ought to see the overtures to the discredited J&K political elite in this light - an attempt to take away talking points from Pakistan when they begin their meddling once more in Kashmir indulging in brinkmanship every now & then forcing us to the negotiating table under western coercion.

This then is in some ways a return to the old template as far we're concerned vis a vis Pakistan. However , this isn't the 90's & Modi definitely isn't expected to be an ABV or a MMS for that's the image of himself he's created even if he himself , in all probability , is a case of - his bark's worse than his bite.

I fear as far as India's concerned , what we're witnessing till such time as the Taliban doesn't take over most if not all of Afghanistan , is just the lull before a terrible storm .
 

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Yeah, imran khan is bothered too much about this non issue.
Shouldn't care much.
Agreed. IKN must be too busy watching Erdogul (or whatever it’s called) and other Turkish TV dramas for recommendations to Pakistani masses and classifying which women and children dress arose Pakistani men the most leading to incidents like lahore madrasa. Pakistani pious mens are not “robots” after all.
IKN must be the busiest men with loads loads of work to do.
 
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Good, Pakistan must be made as much of a hermit state as possible....to make sure it atrophies as far as possible (the savings rate and hidden inflation is already giving results on it), so our power discrepancy with it continues to grow at same rate or better this century.

When it is time, we need to have the widest options possible after all in dealing with it for good. But 2020 decade is just continued progress on it (FATF is just small portion of it)....final conclusions will be lot later.

There is also good intel gathering going on in frequented online hangouts of west-settled Pakistanis (the mouthy hypocrite talibunny type) that keep blabbing their mouths (in whichever fora or twitter etc) on wanting to do/see terrorist attacks in whichever other country....when they aren't busy being overt telford/rochdale creeps or extremist-nutjobs in whatever other ways. Spreading their own words to wider audience is now happening quite organically to further entrench perception of these people.

They seem to ignorantly expect perpetual anonymity in this day and age....and thus they strangely and ironically put that trust in the US-Israel-Western cabal in such things, because their emotional overload and angst cannot be helped. They will learn some nasty lessons downstream. I have to remember to keep a good stock of popcorn for it.
#TalibanOurSaviours was the top trend on Twitter Pakistan yesterday with more than 10k retweets.
Not in Afghanistan but yes Pakistan.
Talk about Indian lobbies maligning Pax Image in international flora. LOL
 

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A few quick pointers in no particular order :

* Pakistani Establishment seem to be besides themselves with joy at the growing footprint of Taliban. While in the short term it may offer Pakistan strategic depth , with the Americans out it's going to be business as usual as it was when the Taliban first took over Afghanistan by the neighbouring countries , none of whom are either in favour of Taliban or Pakistan's meddling there .

In the event of another Taliban takeover of the country aided in no small measure by serving & former elements of the ISI / PA combination like last time , the NA will retreat to it's former strongholds with the rest of Afghanistan's neighbours offering them support.

* Pakistan fails to see the exististential dilemma the Taliban poses to it's existence. Pakistan today is no longer what it used to be 2 decades ago either financially or in terms of it's internal stability. Further continuation of FATF restrictions along with other issues have put their economy on a tight leash .

With existing political parties deeply compromised or out of the country courtesy the PA hounding them out , the only opposition left is the loony RW - fellow travellers of the Taliban to whom the bulk of the masses would turn to willingly or otherwise. In any case the percentage of radicalised Pakistanis are only increasing by the day. In which case the RW in Pakistan would grow substantially as the principle opposition to the PA at the cost of the moderate political parties.

*As usual the PA in it's zeal to undermine India via strategic depth in Afghanistan won't see the writing on the wall till it's too late in the day . After cornering all the benefits by milking the state dry , with the principle of diminished returns setting in if they think they're back in the 90's with the west opening up it's purses every time the Pakistani Establishment approaches them for handouts crying wolf that the only alternative to them are the Mullahs , they're sadly mistaken. The world hasn't forgotten 9/11 & it's various subsequent iterations - most of which had Pakistani fingerprints on it .

*This is where the real danger for India lies . For while PA controlled the narrative earlier with their legs on the brakes & accelerator , given a weakened economy they're that much more vulnerable in spite of them believing otherwise .

* The temptations therefore to contain a restive population hit hard by a failing economy would be to increase repression or open up a front in the east by cranking up terrorism in Kashmir & rest of India & use the N blackmail card when confronted with retaliation while simultaneously petitioning the west to come up with a face saver apart from aid or both the above alternatives.

*While the response by the west to this brinkmanship can't be predicted , the Pakistani deep state will certainly have their sympathizers there who'd attempt to bail them out thus restraining us from full retaliation which in turn would increase pressure on our ruling party .

*Then there's the China card to be factored in by all parties involved here - Afghanistan, Pakistan, India , China itself & the West.

Considering the above factors while Pakistan is sinking deeper into a hole , the signs for us are ominous particularly if we consider what happened on the LAC last summer.

One ought to see the overtures to the discredited J&K political elite in this light - an attempt to take away talking points from Pakistan when they begin their meddling once more in Kashmir indulging in brinkmanship every now & then forcing us to the negotiating table under western coercion.

This then is in some ways a return to the old template as far we're concerned vis a vis Pakistan. However , this isn't the 90's & Modi definitely isn't expected to be an ABV or a MMS for that's the image of himself he's created even if he himself , in all probability , is a case of - his bark's worse than his bite.

I fear as far as India's concerned , what we're witnessing till such time as the Taliban doesn't take over most if not all of Afghanistan , is just the lull before a terrible storm .
After capturing Afghanistan taliban focus will turn towards durand line. Destabilized Afghanistan will burn Pakistan.
 
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STEPHEN COHEN

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A few quick pointers in no particular order :

* Pakistani Establishment seem to be besides themselves with joy at the growing footprint of Taliban. While in the short term it may offer Pakistan strategic depth , with the Americans out it's going to be business as usual as it was when the Taliban first took over Afghanistan by the neighbouring countries , none of whom are either in favour of Taliban or Pakistan's meddling there .

In the event of another Taliban takeover of the country aided in no small measure by serving & former elements of the ISI / PA combination like last time , the NA will retreat to it's former strongholds with the rest of Afghanistan's neighbours offering them support.

* Pakistan fails to see the exististential dilemma the Taliban poses to it's existence. Pakistan today is no longer what it used to be 2 decades ago either financially or in terms of it's internal stability. Further continuation of FATF restrictions along with other issues have put their economy on a tight leash .

With existing political parties deeply compromised or out of the country courtesy the PA hounding them out , the only opposition left is the loony RW - fellow travellers of the Taliban to whom the bulk of the masses would turn to willingly or otherwise. In any case the percentage of radicalised Pakistanis are only increasing by the day. In which case the RW in Pakistan would grow substantially as the principle opposition to the PA at the cost of the moderate political parties.

*As usual the PA in it's zeal to undermine India via strategic depth in Afghanistan won't see the writing on the wall till it's too late in the day . After cornering all the benefits by milking the state dry , with the principle of diminished returns setting in if they think they're back in the 90's with the west opening up it's purses every time the Pakistani Establishment approaches them for handouts crying wolf that the only alternative to them are the Mullahs , they're sadly mistaken. The world hasn't forgotten 9/11 & it's various subsequent iterations - most of which had Pakistani fingerprints on it .

*This is where the real danger for India lies . For while PA controlled the narrative earlier with their legs on the brakes & accelerator , given a weakened economy they're that much more vulnerable in spite of them believing otherwise .

* The temptations therefore to contain a restive population hit hard by a failing economy would be to increase repression or open up a front in the east by cranking up terrorism in Kashmir & rest of India & use the N blackmail card when confronted with retaliation while simultaneously petitioning the west to come up with a face saver apart from aid or both the above alternatives.

*While the response by the west to this brinkmanship can't be predicted , the Pakistani deep state will certainly have their sympathizers there who'd attempt to bail them out thus restraining us from full retaliation which in turn would increase pressure on our ruling party .

*Then there's the China card to be factored in by all parties involved here - Afghanistan, Pakistan, India , China itself & the West.

Considering the above factors while Pakistan is sinking deeper into a hole , the signs for us are ominous particularly if we consider what happened on the LAC last summer.

One ought to see the overtures to the discredited J&K political elite in this light - an attempt to take away talking points from Pakistan when they begin their meddling once more in Kashmir indulging in brinkmanship every now & then forcing us to the negotiating table under western coercion.

This then is in some ways a return to the old template as far we're concerned vis a vis Pakistan. However , this isn't the 90's & Modi definitely isn't expected to be an ABV or a MMS for that's the image of himself he's created even if he himself , in all probability , is a case of - his bark's worse than his bite.

I fear as far as India's concerned , what we're witnessing till such time as the Taliban doesn't take over most if not all of Afghanistan , is just the lull before a terrible storm .

Pakistan is beginning to anticipate
That US will impose some kind of sanctions on them as the situation in Afghanistan gets worse

Already Moeed Yusuf , their NSA has asked US not to induge in a blame game

Secondly this issue of CIA bases and Biden not yet calling Imran Khan is indicative of a Future rift with US

If IMF and other agencies stop their Loans , then Pakistan will come to its senses very soon
 

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Agreed. IKN must be too busy watching Erdogul (or whatever it’s called) and other Turkish TV dramas for recommendations to Pakistani masses and classifying which women and children dress arose Pakistani men the most leading to incidents like lahore madrasa. Pakistani pious mens are not “robots” after all.
IKN must be the busiest men with loads loads of work to do.
As usual. The rape capital of the world making fun of others 😅😅
 

AbRaj

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As usual. The rape capital of the world making fun of others 😅😅
Not surprising that being a Pakistani like your Wazeer e Azam IKN you too suffer from similar kind of intellectual and moral degeneracy grappling Pax.
I mean the country that needs four viewers watching a rapist raping a woman live to prove that she was raped (and will be punished for failing to do so) compared to a “Rape Capital” where a woman can file a rape case against a man even for touching her without her consent.
A society where victims are discouraged to seek justice and the sex trafficking is treated as business as usual.
A country Wazeer e Azam of which blames dressing of women and children for Rape and pedophilia which the society is grappling with and is trying hard to hide it,
(Ex)Deputy Wazeer e Azam of which is allegedly a sexual predator and a child molester.
A sane mind can easily understand that this “Rape Capital” has different standards of social justice and morality than Riyasat e Podeena where half of the population is product of inbreeding and consanguinity leading to widespread degeneracy in the society.

They get exposed when the legal cover and social protection is not there like In the modern/western countries where these same pious Pakistani men are famous for doing all sorts of degenerate stuff like grooming gangs, rape and other sexual crimes
 
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