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China pledges support for Taliban in Afghanistan, but demands end to ETIM ties
Catherine Wong | Published: 1:15pm, 28 Jul, 2021

  • Foreign Minister Wang Yi tells delegation there is no room for links with terror group it blames for Xinjiang attacks
  • Taliban spokesman says meeting in Tianjin covered political, economic and security issues as well as peace process

The Taliban delegation with Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi in Tianjin on Wednesday. Photo: Handout


The Taliban delegation with Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi in Tianjin on Wednesday. Photo: Handout

China has pledged support for the Taliban’s role in Afghanistan’s reconstruction, while demanding that it cuts ties with the East Turkestan Islamic Movement – blamed by Beijing for attacks in its Xinjiang region.

Foreign Minister Wang Yi made the remarks during talks with a nine-member delegation led by the Taliban’s chief negotiator and co-founder Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar in the northern city of Tianjin on Wednesday.

It was the first time a senior member of the organization had visited China since the Taliban’s capture of several key districts in Badakhshan and Kandahar provinces. Taliban fighters have taken control of around half the country up to its border with the Chinese region of Xinjiang, and US air strikes continue to support Afghan security forces.


Taliban co-founder Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar. Photo: AFP

Taliban co-founder Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar. Photo: AFP

Wang said the withdrawal of US and Nato troops from Afghanistan represented a failure of US policies and called on the Taliban to push for a role in the peace process.

“The Taliban in Afghanistan is a pivotal military and political force in the country, and will play an important role in the process of peace, reconciliation and reconstruction there,” Wang said, according to a foreign ministry statement.

Wang said China would support Afghanistan’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, but he also demanded the Taliban cut off any connection with the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM).

“ETIM is an international terrorist organization listed by the UN Security Council and poses a direct threat to China’s national security and territorial integrity,” Wang said.

“Fighting ETIM is the common responsibility of the international community and I hope the Afghanistan Taliban will cut ties with terror groups such as ETIM. The Afghanistan Taliban can contribute to an effective crackdown against those groups and play an active role in regional stability and development.”

Taliban spokesman Mohammad Naeem said the meetings focused on the political, economic and security issues facing the two nations, as well as the peace process.

He tweeted that the group had assured China that Afghan territory would not be used to threaten the security of other nations, and that China had promised not to interfere in Afghanistan’s affairs but to help build peace and solve problems.

The US stepped up air strikes in southern Afghanistan against the Taliban on Sunday, with General Frank McKenzie saying America was prepared to continue if the Taliban offensive did not stop.

The Taliban has called the air strikes a violation of the Doha agreement – the peace deal signed by Baradar with the US in February last year that paved the way for the withdrawal of American troops, due to be completed in late August, and the eventual intra-Afghan negotiations.

Afghanistan and China are also expected to be the focus of talks in New Delhi between US Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Indian officials on Wednesday.

Beijing has been closely watching the progress of US troop withdrawals from Afghanistan and sought to play a bigger role in the country. At a meeting with his Afghan and Pakistani counterparts in June, Wang vowed to “bring the Taliban back into the political mainstream” and offered to host intra-Afghan peace talks.

“China’s position is that this should be resolved within Afghanistan. And the situation in Afghanistan should not threaten China’s security,” a source said, naming security in Xinjiang and Chinese investments in the region as some of Beijing’s top concerns.

Despite past support for Uygur militants in Xinjiang, the Taliban has said it will not interfere in China’s internal affairs.

China previously hosted the Taliban in 2019, when a nine-member delegation traveled to Beijing and met Deng Xijun, then special representative for Afghanistan.

Yan Wei, an international relations professor at Northwest University in China, said it was necessary for both the Taliban and China to engage each other.

“Regardless of whether the Taliban will become the government, it is a key force affecting the political development and security of Afghanistan,” he said.

“The Taliban can constrain some other terrorist organizations in Afghanistan. China can through the Taliban put certain constraints on other terrorist organizations, which is useful for China’s security and regional security.”

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Source: South China Morning Post

Additional reporting by Rachel Zhang

This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as: Beijing pledges support for Taliban on one condition

 
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China pledges support for Taliban in Afghanistan, but demands end to ETIM ties
Catherine Wong | Published: 1:15pm, 28 Jul, 2021

  • Foreign Minister Wang Yi tells delegation there is no room for links with terror group it blames for Xinjiang attacks
  • Taliban spokesman says meeting in Tianjin covered political, economic and security issues as well as peace process

The Taliban delegation with Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi in Tianjin on Wednesday. Photo: Handout


The Taliban delegation with Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi in Tianjin on Wednesday. Photo: Handout

China has pledged support for the Taliban’s role in Afghanistan’s reconstruction, while demanding that it cuts ties with the East Turkestan Islamic Movement – blamed by Beijing for attacks in its Xinjiang region.

Foreign Minister Wang Yi made the remarks during talks with a nine-member delegation led by the Taliban’s chief negotiator and co-founder Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar in the northern city of Tianjin on Wednesday.

It was the first time a senior member of the organization had visited China since the Taliban’s capture of several key districts in Badakhshan and Kandahar provinces. Taliban fighters have taken control of around half the country up to its border with the Chinese region of Xinjiang, and US air strikes continue to support Afghan security forces.


Taliban co-founder Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar. Photo: AFP

Taliban co-founder Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar. Photo: AFP

Wang said the withdrawal of US and Nato troops from Afghanistan represented a failure of US policies and called on the Taliban to push for a role in the peace process.

“The Taliban in Afghanistan is a pivotal military and political force in the country, and will play an important role in the process of peace, reconciliation and reconstruction there,” Wang said, according to a foreign ministry statement.

Wang said China would support Afghanistan’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, but he also demanded the Taliban cut off any connection with the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM).

“ETIM is an international terrorist organization listed by the UN Security Council and poses a direct threat to China’s national security and territorial integrity,” Wang said.

“Fighting ETIM is the common responsibility of the international community and I hope the Afghanistan Taliban will cut ties with terror groups such as ETIM. The Afghanistan Taliban can contribute to an effective crackdown against those groups and play an active role in regional stability and development.”

Taliban spokesman Mohammad Naeem said the meetings focused on the political, economic and security issues facing the two nations, as well as the peace process.

He tweeted that the group had assured China that Afghan territory would not be used to threaten the security of other nations, and that China had promised not to interfere in Afghanistan’s affairs but to help build peace and solve problems.

The US stepped up air strikes in southern Afghanistan against the Taliban on Sunday, with General Frank McKenzie saying America was prepared to continue if the Taliban offensive did not stop.

The Taliban has called the air strikes a violation of the Doha agreement – the peace deal signed by Baradar with the US in February last year that paved the way for the withdrawal of American troops, due to be completed in late August, and the eventual intra-Afghan negotiations.

Afghanistan and China are also expected to be the focus of talks in New Delhi between US Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Indian officials on Wednesday.

Beijing has been closely watching the progress of US troop withdrawals from Afghanistan and sought to play a bigger role in the country. At a meeting with his Afghan and Pakistani counterparts in June, Wang vowed to “bring the Taliban back into the political mainstream” and offered to host intra-Afghan peace talks.

“China’s position is that this should be resolved within Afghanistan. And the situation in Afghanistan should not threaten China’s security,” a source said, naming security in Xinjiang and Chinese investments in the region as some of Beijing’s top concerns.

Despite past support for Uygur militants in Xinjiang, the Taliban has said it will not interfere in China’s internal affairs.

China previously hosted the Taliban in 2019, when a nine-member delegation traveled to Beijing and met Deng Xijun, then special representative for Afghanistan.

Yan Wei, an international relations professor at Northwest University in China, said it was necessary for both the Taliban and China to engage each other.

“Regardless of whether the Taliban will become the government, it is a key force affecting the political development and security of Afghanistan,” he said.

“The Taliban can constrain some other terrorist organizations in Afghanistan. China can through the Taliban put certain constraints on other terrorist organizations, which is useful for China’s security and regional security.”

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Source: South China Morning Post

Additional reporting by Rachel Zhang

This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as: Beijing pledges support for Taliban on one condition

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one imperialist is getting replaced by the other. Great Britain, Soviet Union, United States of America and now china.even backstabbing pakistani/punjabis is the constant factor
 
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STEPHEN COHEN

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If USA could not Train and Equip the
Afghan Army before leaving , how can we do so in a few months

Air support will have to be provided by US , B 52s can kill hundreds of Taliban

The Afghans dont have enough Mortars
They need both 81 mm and 120 mm mortars

Given the Frequent loss and Gain of Territory even 105 mm Artillery is of no use

The Taliban have come so far using just Machine Guns , IEDs and RPGs

They rely on Human waves and suicide attacks
 

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He did not die..

I was talking about his Motivation

If he didnt die , it is bad because he will
Kill more Civilians before he dies

It is upto the Civilians whether they want to live like Slaves and Animals

Afghan Women should pick up guns and give up the fear of death
 

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This is the level of motivation that Afghan Army Soldiers and Civilians must have if they want decent lives for themselves and their Children

Or else they will be slaves for the Taliban
Photo op for cheap propaganda purposes. The Tali-baboon in the picture is alive and well. Just some minor injuries in hand.
This tactic is very common among Islamic militias like Taliban,ISIS,AQ, Boko haram etc.
One must be really stupid to fall for that terrible acting. Even ISPR does better job
 

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Photo op for cheap propaganda purposes. The Tali-baboon in the picture is alive and well. Just some minor injuries in hand.
This tactic is very common among Islamic militias like Taliban,ISIS,AQ, Boko haram etc.
One must be really stupid to fall for that terrible acting. Even ISPR does better job

The complete capitulation by Afghan Army and Society is unbelievable

It is as if they want to live like slaves
 

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I was talking about his Motivation

If he didnt die , it is bad because he will
Kill more Civilians before he dies

It is upto the Civilians whether they want to live like Slaves and Animals

Afghan Women should pick up guns and give up the fear of death
The complete capitulation by Afghan Army and Society is unbelievable

It is as if they want to live like slaves
Too much Pee df consumption can permanently damage brain cells.

Proxy war is messy business, and lots of propaganda is involved.
In Syria Assad was about to go down every day and Syrian National Army was shown like a pussy who don’t know how to hold the gun compared to Gucchi gears wearing and supposedly macho and brutal ISIS and other Turkish proxies.
Results are not what they portrayed. Same thing happened in Iraq and other countries.
It’s not Afghans problem that some people can’t have mental capacity to analyze the situation accurately and see through the propaganda.
 
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It's you whos thinking that they want to live like slaves. When it's basically Sharia being established in their eyes..

Too much Pee df consumption can permanently damage brain cells.

Proxy war is messy business, and lots of propaganda is involved.
In Syria Assad was about to go down every day and Syrian National Army was shown like a pussy who don’t know how to hold the gun compared to Gucchi gears wearing and supposedly macho and brutal ISIS and other Turkish proxies.
Results are not what they portrayed. Same thing happened in Iraq and other countries.
It’s not Afghans problem that some people can’t have mental capacity to analyze the situation accurately and see through the propaganda.

I am following the Afghan Situation on Twitter , NOT on PDF

Assad was saved by Russia

Here Taliban has Pakistani support

What do Afghans have

Anyway this is a theoretical discussion

The larger point is what does the Afghan citizen want

He or she has seen both the Taliban and the post 2001 scenario

They have to choose and decide
 

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I am following the Afghan Situation on Twitter , NOT on PDF
Good lord. So you follow pakees on Twitter too ?
God have mercy on you.
Assad was saved by Russia

Here Taliban has Pakistani support

What do Afghans have
In Syria case replace Pak and China with Turkey and US/NATO
Afghans have US and Iran and all its neighbors except Punjabistan.
Not to forget India,Turkey, Indonesia etc too
Anyway this is a theoretical discussion

The larger point is what does the Afghan citizen want?
We too are not doing practicals here. It’s all mumbo-jumbo here too.

Have you came across any Afghan that supports Talibans or likes Pakistan in real life or at least on you tube videos at least ?
But then you are those who follow Zaid Hameed on Twitter (LOL). So .... I guess any profile with nastaliq calligraphy is a Pushto to you.
He or she has seen both the Taliban and the post 2001 scenario

They have to choose and decide
Good luck to that unfortunate child, basing his knowledge on Twitter trends and “intellectuals” like Zaid zaman Hamid.
 

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India can't do anything rather should invest in Tajikistan and CAR
Pointless the Russians won't like it and the Tajiks won't repay anything. Our investments in Iran also have gone down the drain since they want to play their own game in Afghanistan. We don't have any major influence except with the Afghans who I feel trust the GoI the most out of all the governments they are interacting with. The problem is we don't have a lot of low level tech that we can export the Afghans in numbers. If we had atgm's or drones or surveillance equipment that we could have exported we could have a lot more say and influence in the region. Iran can offer that to the Afghans and much more. We just need to wait and watch to see how the situation pans out..
Since neither the Russians,Pakistanis or Iranians seem to be interested in actually stabilizing the region..
 
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