Iran says it carried out missile and drone attacks inside Pakistan, against Jaish al Adl.

What do you think will happen next between 🇮🇷 & 🇵🇰?

  • Iran goes berserk

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  • Long low intensity war

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Opinion : It will de-escalate with small border skirmishes and routine insurgency like before.


1 . If you look at the geography of Iran and Pakistan, it is impossible for Pakistan to repeat air raid beyond Zahedan region. And with S 300 in Iran it will be almost impossible if they deploy it in southern region.

2. Most of the Pakistani jets will be shot down beyond Zahedan. Either Pakistan has to resort to long range cruise missiles or ballistic missiles. Fighting in Zahedan wouldn't cause much loss to Iran but more loss to India due to Chabahar and Bandar Abbas.

3. And fighting close to Gwadar will cause major loss to China and its CPEC. China will mediate between the both and won't allow to escalate.

4. Russia wouldn't also want them to escalate since it will cause damage to their strategic depth in West Asia.

5. Iran and Pakistan conflict could give excuse to many countries to deploy their navy in Persian Gulf to releave pressure from Red Sea and build pressure on Iran and Russians will not want it.

The Bad boy is Pakistan playing double game with China and US to milk both but since elections are coming it could lead to turmoil within Pakistan and it won't be in a condition to fight war for another 6 months.
 
If Pak didn't use nukes,

How will be the strength of Iran Vs Pak..
In terms of
Air force vs airforce
Army vs Army
Navy vs Navy.

Also hows the economic situation of both countries. Will a war break Pakistan economy?

What ll be Chinese stand?
Iran is selling lot of oil and gas to China.
Will they take sides or supply arms to both sides

Iran has more ground presence, because they don't have an active front the size of India.

Pakistan has the better air force, but Iran has better air defenses. Iran's bought some Su-35, the numbers and delivery schedule are unclear, but it's still under process. There's potential for Su-57s and Checkmates in the future.

The navies are irrelevant. PN needs to preserve its strength.

Iran has more money and a somewhat functioning economy.

In any case, it looks like nothing much will happen. But it's definitely good news for India. Iran will rely more on India and Pakistan will have to divert some resources towards Iran.
 
Iran has more ground presence, because they

Iran has more money and a somewhat functioning economy.

In any case, it looks like nothing much will happen. But it's definitely good news for India. Iran will rely more on India and Pakistan will have to divert some resources towards Iran.
Definitely not a good new for India. If USA have choice to choose between a country who is an armed conflict with Iran & a country with ecenomoc tie with Iran definitely they will choose the earlier one.
 
Definitely not a good new for India. If USA have choice to choose between a country who is an armed conflict with Iran & a country with ecenomoc tie with Iran definitely they will choose the earlier one.

That doesn't matter to us. The main contenders in Iran are Russia and China. And China is now more influential in Pakistan than the US is. So the US has a headache to deal with anyway. There's nothing much the US can do to help Pakistan here.
 
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Both are very important. The Persian Gulf sees 20% of all crude oil trade.
Red Sea links to Suez Canal, so more important.
That doesn't matter to us. The main contenders in Iran are Russia and China. And China is now more influential in Pakistan than the US is. So the US has a headache to deal with anyway. There's nothing much the US can do to help Pakistan here.
You come to some ridiculous conclusions.
 
Red Sea links to Suez Canal, so more important.

Red Sea is just loss of shipping money via rerouting around Africa. But 20% of oil represents a 20% hit to the global economy, perhaps more.

You come to some ridiculous conclusions.

What's wrong with it? It's quite well known that the US has begun to lose power in Pakistan.
 
Red Sea is just loss of shipping money via rerouting around Africa. But 20% of oil represents a 20% hit to the global economy, perhaps more.
The oil can be routed out the other side of Saudi Arabia and hardly any ships are actually being hit. Rerouting ships incurs extra costs on absolutely everything and uses more fuel/oil.
What's wrong with it? It's quite well known that the US has begun to lose power in Pakistan.
China would not help Pakistan against Iran, US would, if they actually needed it.
 
The oil can be routed out the other side of Saudi Arabia and hardly any ships are actually being hit. Rerouting ships incurs extra costs on absolutely everything and uses more fuel/oil.

Can't.

China would not help Pakistan against Iran, US would, if they actually needed it.

Yeah, the US would help Pak in such a situation. But it's a far more sticky situation for the Pakistanis than that. It serves US interests to make the situation worse to force Iran's focus away from Israel. So the question is would the Pakistanis want such help.

China is stuck in the middle.

And India and Russia will naturally help Iran. So, due to India's interference in Iran, the US will get stuck in the middle too.
 
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Yeah, the US would help Pak in such a situation. But it's a far more sticky situation for the Pakistanis than that. It serves US interests to make the situation worse to force Iran's focus away from Israel. So the question is would the Pakistanis want such help.
Iran is doing that by itself by firing missiles at them.
China is stuck in the middle.

And India and Russia will naturally help Iran. So, due to India's interference in Iran, the US will get stuck in the middle too.
Well there you go again helping the aggressor that started the war in the Middle East. Russia is too stretched to help anyone, see Nagorno-Karabakh.
 
Well there you go again helping the aggressor that started the war in the Middle East. Russia is too stretched to help anyone, see Nagorno-Karabakh.

Regardless of the war in the ME, it's in both India's and Israel's interests that we make Pakistan's life harder. Get two aggressors talking to each other with fists.

There are various ways Russia can help without involving themselves. Your view of the horizon is far too limited. Look what they did in Syria, that's where their interests lie. Armenia's issue was different, Russia had no mandate to help Armenia in the disputed region. In fact, the Russians had always recommended the return of those territories to Azerbaijan.
 
Regardless of the war in the ME, it's in both India's and Israel's interests that we make Pakistan's life harder. Get two aggressors talking to each other with fists.
Iran causes Israel far more problems thatn Pakistan. They never mention Pakistan, only Iran
There are various ways Russia can help without involving themselves. Your view of the horizon is far too limited. Look what they did in Syria, that's where their interests lie. Armenia's issue was different, Russia had no mandate to help Armenia in the disputed region. In fact, the Russians had always recommended the return of those territories to Azerbaijan.
How? By talking about how Russian visas are too expensive for EU citizens? (yeah, that's the quality of the people you believe.):ROFLMAO: Russia is stretched already, multiple posts demostrating this in the Ukraine War thread. They have sky high inflation and sky high interest rates and public utilities failing due to lack of maintenance. If this war had happened ten years earlier, Assad would be dead already.
 
Iran causes Israel far more problems thatn Pakistan. They never mention Pakistan, only Iran

Nuclear weapons.

How? By talking about how Russian visas are too expensive for EU citizens? (yeah, that's the quality of the people you believe.):ROFLMAO: Russia is stretched already, multiple posts demostrating this in the Ukraine War thread. They have sky high inflation and sky high interest rates and public utilities failing due to lack of maintenance. If this war had happened ten years earlier, Assad would be dead already.

Weapons, funding, intelligence. The Iranians can fight on their own, they only need tech, and the Russians can provide enough to make up for the deficit with the US in case of war.