Indian Nuclear Attack Submarines (SSN) - Updates & Discussions

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INS Arihant and Chakra submarines. Beautiful picture...😉😉

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This pontoon is clear indication of a third nuke. This pontoon is added to the separation between two subs only. Some may argue that it could be for Kilo class also, but Kilos are berthed separately in Vizag away from Nukes.
Apparently third one could be under that shed/pen.... And if so there should be at least 1 if not 2 on deterrent patrol....😉😋

Not bad at all considering it's just now that chinese have been able to sport 4 Jin class reliable nuclear submarines....
 
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Apparently third one could be under that shed/pen.... And if so there should be at least 1 if not 2 on deterrent patrol....😉😋

Not bad at all considering it's just now that chinese have been able to sport 4 Jin class reliable nuclear submarines....
I would say that two are operational and third under the pen undergoing harbour trials.
 
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I would say that two are operational and third under the pen undergoing harbour trials.
Can you tell anything about the role of the corvette protecting that area always? it doesn't seem to move from there, ever. How exactly is its presence security to those subs?
 

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Can you tell anything about the role of the corvette protecting that area always? it doesn't seem to move from there, ever. How exactly is its presence security to those subs?
That corvette supports underwater harbour defenses. The entire area is protected against underwater devices sneak attacks by divers.
 

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India may get US, French cos as partners for building nuclear submarines

NEW DELHI: For the first time India has options when it comes to finding a partner to build a military nuclear asset. Besides Russia, ship builders from France and the US have started initial conversations with the defence ministry on participating in an Indian effort to build a new class of nuclear-powered attack submarines.

Russia has been the traditional ally of India when it comes to sensitive technology and strategic systems.

But a Navy plan for constructing six new nuclear-powered attack submarines (SSNs) to patrol the Indian Ocean Region (IOR) and beyond has prompted ‘discussions’ with the two western nations, sources familiar with the development told ET. The Cabinet Committee on Security had cleared Navy’s proposal in February.

The Indian SSN project — expected to cost over Rs 1 lakh crore — is an ambitious plan to design and produce a nuclear attack boat with the help of the private sector. If this materialises, it will propel India into a select league of the five nuclear powers that have such a capability. SSNs are nuclear powered submarines, but do not carry nuclear warheads, relying instead on conventional weapons and stealth to hunt ships and other submarines. The last country to enter this club was China in 1974 with its Han class boats.

Sources told ET that senior representatives from the submarine branch of a leading US conglomerate have met key Indian defence ministry officials regarding the project. The efforts included a top level meeting in July. The discussions have been kept low key given the sensitivity of the project and details are not available.

Similarly, French representatives have also approached the Indian side for exploring avenues for cooperation on the project in the past few months. While the French submarine manufacturer has not commented on the project, the Indian side is interested in the new ‘Barracuda’ SSN being developed by French ship builder DCNS. A senior DCNS representative refused to take questions on the matter.
 

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^^ This report is an indication that IN is yet to take a final call on SSN development direction. ie, $3 billion to Putin doesn't include anything for indian SSN design.
 

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This report is an indication that IN is yet to take a final call on SSN development direction. ie, $3 billion to Putin doesn't include anything for indian SSN design.
This report is from July 2018, maybe we have decided after this report came out. If $3 billion isn't for SSN what could it be for ?
 
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This report is from July 2018, maybe we have decided after this report came out. If $3 billion isn't for SSN what could it be for ?
In 8 months taking a decision and getting all the approval for such money is unlikely (If you go by IST). ;)
 

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India may get US, French cos as partners for building nuclear submarines

NEW DELHI: For the first time India has options when it comes to finding a partner to build a military nuclear asset. Besides Russia, ship builders from France and the US have started initial conversations with the defence ministry on participating in an Indian effort to build a new class of nuclear-powered attack submarines.

Russia has been the traditional ally of India when it comes to sensitive technology and strategic systems.

But a Navy plan for constructing six new nuclear-powered attack submarines (SSNs) to patrol the Indian Ocean Region (IOR) and beyond has prompted ‘discussions’ with the two western nations, sources familiar with the development told ET. The Cabinet Committee on Security had cleared Navy’s proposal in February.

The Indian SSN project — expected to cost over Rs 1 lakh crore — is an ambitious plan to design and produce a nuclear attack boat with the help of the private sector. If this materialises, it will propel India into a select league of the five nuclear powers that have such a capability. SSNs are nuclear powered submarines, but do not carry nuclear warheads, relying instead on conventional weapons and stealth to hunt ships and other submarines. The last country to enter this club was China in 1974 with its Han class boats.

Sources told ET that senior representatives from the submarine branch of a leading US conglomerate have met key Indian defence ministry officials regarding the project. The efforts included a top level meeting in July. The discussions have been kept low key given the sensitivity of the project and details are not available.

Similarly, French representatives have also approached the Indian side for exploring avenues for cooperation on the project in the past few months. While the French submarine manufacturer has not commented on the project, the Indian side is interested in the new ‘Barracuda’ SSN being developed by French ship builder DCNS. A senior DCNS representative refused to take questions on the matter.
Same file than with MMRCA : USA will be very reluctant to give you know how.
On the contrary France helped Brazil in the design of their own SSN... (DCNS co-designed all the non nuclear part of the sub. India already studied and produced a navy nuclear reactor, so quite easy).

But, as always, the main difficulty will be the indian time to decide. :eek:
 
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Same file than with MMRCA : USA will be very reluctant to give you know how.
On the contrary France helped Brazil in the design of their own SSN... (DCNS co-designed all the non nuclear part of the sub. India already studied and produced a navy nuclear reactor, so quite easy).

But, as always, the main difficulty will be the indian time to decide. :eek:
some three years back, by mistake I had let out that baracuda tech is one of the technologies we are looking for from France as part of Rafale deal. @halloweene, picked it up and was also surprised.
 
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