Indian Nuclear Attack Submarines (SSN) - Updates & Discussions

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Faced with a belligerent China, India has launched its project to build six more nuclear-powered submarines. The nuclear power will allow them greater endurance under sea as the submarines need not surface to ‘breathe’. Navy Chief Admiral Sunil Lanba, while replying to a question, said on Friday, “We have launched the project to make six SSNs (nuclear-powered submarines) and I will not say any further as it’s a classified project.” Addressing a press conference ahead of the Navy Day (December 4), Admiral Lanba, on being asked about the threat from Chinese submarines in the Indian Ocean under the garb of anti-piracy patrols, said, “For a sub it’s an odd task to be on anti-piracy patrol. We have carried out threat assessment of PLA (People's Liberation Army) submarines.”

PLA subs are coming for two deployments every year. This pattern is on since 2013. In yet another hint at how India is challenging China, the Admiral said, “We are deployed 24x7 in key areas in the Gulf of Aden to straits of Malacca besides the straits of Sunda and Lumbok.” These are the ingress and egress routes to the Indian Ocean. Speaking on induction of new assets as per Navy perspective plan, he said 34 ships are under construction. Work on indigenous aircraft carrier is going on and hopefully it would join the navy in 2020-end. He said, “We have identified Rs 40,000 crore worth of projects for Indian private shipyards. We have made significant progress at Karwar (south of Goa). The next phase of project Seabird at Karwarhas has commenced that will accommodate more number of ships submarines.” Commenting on the recent navy-to-navy agreement with Singapore, the Admiral said, “Why do you link every bilateral to China.” “We are looking at other countries for logistics agreement like Singapore and have started taking fuel at sea from the US three months ago at the Gulf of Aden,” he said. Speaking about the controversy in the Russian media that a US team boarded the INS Chakra, the nuclear-powered submarine, he said, “No American has even seen it from close quarters.” The submarine is on lease from Russia.

India launches project to make six nuclear submarines: Navy chief
 

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Will it truly be enough to challenge China? How many submarines does China have? And who could possibly know for sure, given how these devious, sneaky Chinese are cleverly hiding them? o_O




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I read on business standard that IN envisions to have 24 submarine force by 2047.

Iean seriously,is that how we plan to keep IOR dominated and keep china away.
o_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_O:cautious::cautious::cautious::cautious::cautious:
That's depressing.
 

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9 scorpenes + 6 P75I + 1 kilo. Where does the rest come from?
During 90s they decided to build 24 SSKs by 2030 in India. Six from west and Six from east. Remaining 12 from our own design by the learnings from previous experiance.
Navy is sticking with the plan. When DM was parrikar ET reported that 24 number will include 6 SSN which DAC just cleared. After that on his last days parrikar in some confrence said we should increase our long term submarine building numbers. There was also reports of a project 76 which is fully indian design.

So these numbers are best guess.
 

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Will it truly be enough to challenge China? How many submarines does China have? And who could possibly know for sure, given how these devious, sneaky Chinese are cleverly hiding them? o_O




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Quantity is one thing. Quality another.
China subs are not known to be specially potent and silent.
Remains the number
 

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Chinese never come out in open about their submarines or their capabilities. We are not even sure about their actual numbers.

Here in India, we start beating chest and make bold announcements even when the plan is just on drawing board.

Dear Sir, The Chinese do not talk about anything but what they have already achieved, and what is therefore in some senses already public. We (Indians) like to talk about everything, incessantly, and lay ourselves open to laughter and ridicule at every failure, while both the Americans and the Chinese (leaving out Russia for the moment) never mention their failures, or mention these only on being pressed. If only we were a somewhat more laconic race.
 
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In good news for the navy’s depleted submarine fleet, Lanba revealed that Project 75I – which involves building six conventional attack submarines with “air independent propulsion” (AIP) – has made progress.
“We have a 30-year plan for a total force level of 24 submarines. Project 75I is the first project being progressed under the Strategic Partner (SP) model. We have floated an RFI for identifying OEMs (original equipment manufacturers). Responses have been received from four OEMs and they are under examination. A committee has been constituted for identifying the Indian strategic partner.
Pressed to identify the four OEMs who have expressed interest in Project 75I, Lanba named German submarine maker, ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS), French shipmaker Naval Group (formerly DCNS), Kockums of Sweden and Russian armament supplier, Rosoboronexport.
Asked whether Mitsubishi Heavy Industries had expressed interest in supplying its highly regarded Soryu submarine, Lanba cryptically responded: “The Japanese have expresed their inability to compete.”
It remains unclear whether the Japanese believe their submarine’s price is uncompetitive, or whether they are reluctant to sell warfighting equipment to India.
The SP model for procuring weapons platforms involves identifying an international OEM with an in-service platform that meets the military’s requirements. Simultaneously, an Indian SP firm is identified with the manufacturing skills to build that platform in India with transfer of technology.

Indigenous SSN
The navy chief also acknowledged an indigenous project to build six nuclear attack submarines, termed SSNs (the acronym for “sub-surface nuclear”).
“It has kicked off and I will leave it at that. It is a classified project. The process has started,” said Lanba.

Broadsword: Navy chief admits damage to INS Chakra

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Its still not if clear the number 24 includes SSN or not.
 
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Russia seeks ₹125 crore to carry out repairs on INS Chakra

Russian authorities have demanded over $20 million for rectifying the damage suffered by nuclear submarine INS Chakra, which was dry-docked last week, even as the government is seeking to fix responsibility for the accident.

According to defence sources, Russia has quoted $20 million (approximately ₹125 crore) for fixing the nuclear submarine's front portion, which was damaged while the submarine was entering the harbour in Visakhapatnam. The details of the accident emerged in public in early October last year.

The developments around INS Chakra come even as the indigenously built nuclear ballistic missile submarine INS Arihant, which had suffered extensive damage because of human error over a year ago, is yet to be back to active sailing.

After extensive flushing and replacement of many of its pipes, Arihant was floated recently but sailing it will take more time, the defence sources said.

On INS Chakra, Russian officials have conveyed to India that they would be making all the replacement panels in their own facility and would not be using any Indian facilities.

The almost 5x5 ft. panels of the sonar dome would be brought to Visakhapatnam and fitted on to the leased submarine.

‘Nothing irreversible’
In an interview to The Hindu last week, Russian Ambassador Nikolai Kudashev said he was not aware when the nuclear submarine would sail again.

“As far as I know the submarine is under repairs as of now but in the near future it is expected to be back in operation. There is nothing irreversible that happened there. That is what I am aware of,” he said.

The Defence Ministry did not respond to queries from The Hindu.




Meanwhile, government sources indicate that they want responsibility fixed for the damage suffered by INS Chakra.

As part of the firm stand taken by the government, it is believed to have put on hold the proposal to appoint Inspector General of Nuclear Safety Vice Admiral Srikant as the new Commandant of the New Delhi-based National Defence College (NDC), until responsibility is fixed for the Chakra mishap.

Vice Admiral Srikant is the senior most naval officer responsible for nuclear submarines. Lt. Gen. YVK Mohan moved out as NDC commandant early in January to take over as the General Officer Commanding IX Corps headquartered at Yol in Himachal Pradesh.

Denying any specific knowledge of the Ministry’s move, Navy officials admitted that a series of appointments in the Navy are currently waiting to be cleared by Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman and Vice Admiral Srikant’s is also among them.
 

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Russia seeks ₹125 crore to carry out repairs on INS Chakra

Russian authorities have demanded over $20 million for rectifying the damage suffered by nuclear submarine INS Chakra, which was dry-docked last week, even as the government is seeking to fix responsibility for the accident.

Defence sources said Russia had quoted $20 million (approximately ₹125 crore) for fixing the submarine's front portion, which was damaged when the submarine was entering the Visakhapatnam harbour. The details of the accident emerged in public in early October last year.

Russian officials have said they would make all the replacement panels in their own facility and would not use any Indian facility. The almost 5x5 feet panels of the sonar dome would be brought to Visakhapatnam and fitted on to the lsubmarine.

In an interview to The Hindu last week, Russian Ambassador Nikolai Kudashev said he was not aware when the nuclear submarine would sail again. “As far as I know, the submarine is under repairs as of now but in the near future it is expected to be back in operation. There is nothing irreversible that happened there. That is what I am aware of.”.

The Defence Ministry did not respond to queries from The Hindu.

Damage to INS Arihant
It may be noted that indigenously built nuclear ballistic missile submarine INS Arihant, which suffered extensive damage because of human error over a year ago, is yet to be back to active sailing. After extensive flushing and replacement of many of its pipes, it was floated recently but sailing it will take more time, the sources said.




As part of the firm stand taken by the government, it is believed to have put on hold the proposal to appoint Inspector General of Nuclear Safety Vice Admiral Srikant as the new Commandant of the New Delhi-based National Defence College (NDC), until responsibility is fixed for the INS Chakra accident.

Vice Admiral Srikant is the senior-most naval officer responsible for nuclear submarines. Lt. Gen. YVK Mohan moved out as NDC commandant early in January to take over as the General Officer Commanding IX Corps headquartered at Yol in Himachal Pradesh.

Denying any specific knowledge of the Ministry’s move, Navy officials admitted that a series of appointments in the Navy are currently waiting to be cleared by Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman and Vice Admiral Srikant’s is also among them.