FCAS Program, Specification, development

randomradio

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Couldn't AMCA be the demonstrator of the SCAF NGF? It could receive constructive criticism from Dassault who know how to make airframes lighter while improving their aerodynamics and strength. The final NGF would probably have a new variable cycle engine and more advanced on-board systems with new capabilities.

Any SCAF demonstration on AMCA will have to be a parallel project.

Unofficially AMCA already has entered the engineering phase, procurement of long lead items began last year.

France should have offered it as part of Rafale offsets a few years ago.
 

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So you think it will end up switching to the UK one. France goes it alone with Rafale v10.0

It depends on how the transition towards next gen air superiority happens.

The Russians will likely come out with the first near-space capable fighter jet by 2025. There are rumours that the AF-NGAD will see a variant with a hybrid engine too. So it could be a mix of the Su-57 and PAK DP depending on the engine equipped. We already know AF-NGAD will come in two variants, and it appears it will have three engine options.

If FCAS and Tempest are like Su-57, then both France and Britain may have to come out with ramjet/scramjet equipped versions too. So it's possible that the French can combine FCAS with Tempest and then work on their near-space capable fighter separately.
 

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Europe working together, we can only hope.

Russia stronk. They ran out of letters and numbers they can add to the SU-27 and are moving on. It great to see what they can do with the GDP of Australia, with a lot more people to feed and clothe.


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randomradio

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Europe working together, we can only hope.

Russia stronk. They ran out of letters and numbers they can add to the SU-27 and are moving on. It great to see what they can do with the GDP of Australia, with a lot more people to feed and clothe.


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The Russians don't do as much welfare, so they can throw money at other things. And a dollar buys you 4 times more stuff in Russia than in Australia. Being both militarily advanced and self-sufficient in resources is a massive blessing.

If the Europeans don't work together, they won't be able to handle Russia in just 10 more years.